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FTR #608 Update on the Oklahoma City Bombing: In Search of John Doe No. 2

Recorded September 2, 2007
MP3: 30-Minute Segment
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NB: This stream contains both FTR #608 and FTR #609 in sequence. Each is a 30 minute broadcast.

Among the many 20th century crimes that have never been fully explored or adjudicated is the Oklahoma City bombing. The available evidence suggests that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were part of a larger plot that was covered up by the federal authorities. Of particular significance are the evidentiary tributaries linking the Oklahoma City bombing with the first World Trade Center attack, the 9/11 attacks and the AMIA bombing in Argentina—tributaries that have been ignored by the federal authorities. (For more about this, see—among other programs—FTR#456.) This broadcast explores the mysterious [and sinister] death of Kenney Trentadue, believed by investigators to have been murdered in prison. Ruled a suicide, Trentadue’s death may well have resulted from his resemblance to the mysterious John Doe #2, seen in the company of convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh. Although Trentadue’s injuries suggest he was murdered, prison authorities and other forensic investigators have gone to great lengths to dissemble about the cause of death, a pretense made more effective by the prison “suicides” of several people connected to the case.

Program Highlights Include: The prison “suicide” of Alden Gillis Baker (who testified that Trentadue was murdered); the prison suicide of Peter Langan of the Aryan Republican Army (whose association with Timothy McVeigh is one of the investigative pathways leading to the death of Kenney Trentadue); a grisly accounting of the nature of Kenney Trentadue’s injuries.

1. Among the most striking aspects of Kenney Trentadue’s case are the forensic evidence and the behavior of the authorities with regard to that evidence. Note how Kenney Trentadue died—keeping in mind that this was supposedly suicide! “ . . . Kenney called again that night, sounding chipper, and the brothers strategized about the parole hearing; Kenney promised to call again the next day. But no call came until early the morning of August 21, when the phone rang at Kenney and Jesse’s mother’s house. It was the prison warden. Kenney, she said, had committed suicide that night. She offered to have the body cremated at government expense—a move without precedent in federal prison policies—but Wilma Trentadue turned her down. Five days later, Kenney’s body arrived at a mortuary in California. There were bruises all over it, clumsily disguised with heavy makeup; slashes on his throat; ligature marks; and ruptures on his scalp. Photos of the injuries were included in a letter that Jesse drew up on August 30 and hand-delivered to the Bureau of Prisons (bop), which is part of the U.S. Department of Justice (doj). . . .”
(“In Search of John Doe No. 2: The Story the Feds Never Told About the Oklahoma City Bombing” by James Ridgeway; Mother Jones; 7/3/2007.)

2. More about this supposed “suicide”: “ . . . ‘I have enclosed as Exhibit ‘A’ a photograph of Kenneth’s body at the funeral,’ it read. ‘This is how you returned my brother to us…. My brother had been so badly beaten that I personally saw several mourners leave the viewing to vomit in the parking lot! Anyone seeing my brother’s battered body with his bruised and lacerated forehead, throat cut, and blue-black knuckles would not have concluded that his death was either easy or a ‘suicide’! ‘ After describing Kenney’s injuries in detail, and speculating how they might have come about (bruises to his arms from being gripped, others to his legs from being knocked to the ground with batons, slashes to his throat from someone ‘possibly left-handed,’ which Kenney was not), Jesse concluded: ‘Had my brother been less of a man, you[r] guards would have been able to kill him without inflicting so much injury to his body. Had that occurred, Kenney’s family would forever have been guilt-ridden… with the pain of thinking that Kenneth took his own life and that we had somehow failed him. By making the fight he did for his life, Ken has saved us that pain and God bless him for having done so!’ . . .” (Idem.)

3. A number of Kenney Trentadue’s fellow inmates provided testimony indicating that he was murdered. One of them—Alden Gillis Baker—was subsequently found hanged in his cell. “ . . . Other key evidence was simply omitted from or buried in the official reports: FBI and state Bureau of Investigations officials later testified, in a lawsuit brought by the Trentadue family, that a second person’s blood had been found in Kenney’s cell, and that there were no cut marks on the noose from which he was, according to prison officials, ‘cut down.’ According to an internal FBI memo, a prison guard told his neighbor that Kenney had been killed, and then hung in his cell as a cover-up; an inmate who reported hearing similar statements from a second guard said he was warned to keep silent and then sent to isolation. Another inmate, Alden Gillis Baker, would later give Jesse’s lawyer a note describing an incident during which, he said, Kenney got into an altercation with a guard. Eventually, he wrote, additional officers entered the cell, there was ‘a lot of physical violence going on,’ he heard ‘faint moaning,’ and later the sound of bedsheets being torn. (He would repeat this account in a deposition in connection with a lawsuit brought by Jesse, but a judge ruled that Baker, a convicted robber and sex offender, was not a reliable witness. In 2000, Baker was found hanging in his cell in a California federal prison.) . . .” (Idem.)

4. One of the hypotheses entertained by the Trentadue family and associated investigators involves possible confusion between Kenney Trentadue and members of the Aryan Republican Army, a white-supremacist group that moved in the same circles as Timothy McVeigh and company. [Note the death via “prison suicide” of Peter Langan, a key member of the ARA. Seems to be a lot of this sort of thing going on in connection with this case.] Reports indicate that members of the ARA may be the mysterious John Doe #2, seen by witnesses with Timothy McVeigh. Other analysts feel that John Doe #2 was Andreas Strassmeier, the son of Helmut Kohl’s chief of staff Gunther Strassmeier (the architect of German reunification). (Read more about Andreas Strassmeier, and the Oklahoma City bombing.) “ . . . Guthrie’s name meant nothing to Jesse Trentadue, but in the far-right radical scene, he had some notoriety. In 1994 and 1995, Guthrie and his gang, the Aryan Republican Army, carried out an impressive series of 22 bank robberies across the Midwest, netting some $250,000 that they used to support the white-supremacist movement. The ARA had a flair for the dramatic. They rented getaway cars in the names of major FBI officials. At some robberies they wore Clinton and Nixon masks; at others, they tried to look like Arabs. At a December 1994 robbery they wore Santa and elf suits; the following April, they left behind an Easter basket holding a bronzed pipe bomb. In a home movie, Guthrie’s partner Peter Langan donned a black balaclava and talked about the coming white revolution. The ARA’s philosophy was old-fashioned nativism, but their style was a takeoff on the IRA, with Latin American revolution and rock and roll thrown in. (Members of the Philadelphia skinhead music scene were part of the group.) Langan liked to call himself ‘Commander Pedro’; outside the gang, he cross-dressed and later, when sentenced to prison for the robberies, requested that a judge authorize a sex-change operation. Cash told Jesse that some people—including some in federal law enforcement—thought the ARA might have been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, and that Guthrie could have been John Doe No. 2. (Guthrie, along with other key ARA members, was finally arrested in January 1996 and was reported to be cooperating with federal prosecutors tracking the far right. That July, shortly before he was due to testify in court against Langan, Guthrie was found hanging in his cell.) . . .” (Idem.)

5. Two video productions are being generated by a couple of documentary filmmakers. One is a DVD of a three-lecture series called “The First Refuge of a Scoundrel: The Relationship Between Fascism and Religion.” In addition, there will soon be a documentary about Mr. Emory, titled “The Anti-Fascist.” For more about this project, visit TheAntiFascist.com.

Discussion

3 comments for “FTR #608 Update on the Oklahoma City Bombing: In Search of John Doe No. 2”

  1. FBI to judge: Sorry judge, we searched and we just can’t find the files!
    Judge to FBI: Ummm…you have to be kidding.

    Note that the FBI’s excuse is actually kind of plausible, although not for the greatest reasons

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | March 22, 2012, 10:48 pm
  2. Police have reportedly found a box filled with ammonium nitrate in the hotel room of the recently arrested leader of one of the militia groups operating on the US/Mexican border, raising the question of what this militia may have had in mind. Fertilizer for a nice hedge fence along the border, perhaps? Hmmmm…:

    My Sanantonio
    Records: Border militia member had ammonium nitrate, thousands of rounds of ammunition in hotel room
    By Joshua Fechter : October 29, 2014 : Updated: October 29, 2014 3:22pm

    Federal agents found a box filled with what appeared to be ammonium nitrate — which can cause major explosions — along with firearms and thousands of rounds of ammunition during a search of the hotel room of militia member Kevin Lyndel Massey.

    Agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, who searched Massey’s hotel room in Brownsville after an Oct. 20 arrest, found an AK-47 with six loaded magazines, a loaded handgun, a ballistic helmet and several cameras, as well as the ammunition box filled with suspected ammonium nitrate and fuel, according to court documents obtained by the San Antonio Express-News.

    Ammonium nitrate can be a powerful explosive under certain circumstances: a stockpile of the substance at a fertilizer plant in West caused the deadly April 17 explosion that killed 15 people and injured more than 160 others. It’s also the substance used by Timothy McVeigh in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people.

    Massey was arrested in connection to an Aug. 29 incident during which a Border Patrol agent fired four shots at a man pointing a weapon at the agent near the Rio Grande while pursuing a group of immigrants east of Brownsville, according to documents from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas in Brownsville.

    During the incident, agents seized a pistol from the man, identified as militia member John Frederick Foerster, and two firearms – a pistol and rifle – carried by Massey, who was in the vicinity with another militia member.

    Foerster was arrested Oct. 21.

    The court has ordered a psychiatric evaluation on Foerster.

    U.S. Magistrate Judge Ronald Morgan set Massey’s bond at $30,000 under several conditions, including that Massey and his wife remove all firearms and ammunition from their North Texas home.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | October 30, 2014, 7:43 pm
  3. As we learned back in August, the future is looking bright in Texas if you happen to be a far right militia member:

    Think Progress
    Armed Right-Wing Militias Amassing Along Texas Border With State Lawmaker’s Blessing

    by Ian Millhiser Posted on August 8, 2014 at 2:09 pm Updated: August 8, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    For much of the summer, right-wing militiamen have gathered near the Texas-Mexico border, many of them claiming that they are there as part of something called “Operation Secure Our Border.” They include members of a movement that President George W. Bush denounced as “vigilantes,” and they also include members of even more radical groups that promote wild conspiracy theories and that explicitly threaten violence against the government.

    Miller is not the highest-ranking Texas official who has dismissed criticism of armed vigilantes patrolling the Texas border. Late last month, the 12 Democratic members of Texas’ congressional delegation penned a letter to Greg Abbott, the state’s attorney general and the Republican candidate to be Texas’ next governor. In it, the 12 lawmakers quote a militia leader who said that You see an illegal. You point your gun dead at him, right between the eyes, and you say, ‘Get back across the border or you will be shot.’ They also ask Abbott to “denounce the actions of these militia groups and clarify the jurisdiction these militia groups have to patrol alongside local law enforcement and Border Patrol agents.”

    A spokesperson for Abbott dismissed the letter as a “partisan political stunt.”

    The militias Abbott would not denounce include a volatile mix of paranoid anti-government groups and potentially violent gun activists. According to the Dallas Morning News, the earliest wave of militiamen coming to Texas included members of the Oathkeepers, a group which describes itself as an “association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it.” Their website warns of government officials “disarm[ing] the American people,” “confiscat[ing] the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies,” and “blockad[ing] American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.”

    The militiamen also reportedly include members of the “Three Percenter’s Club,” a group which claims that its “mission is give our members the capabilities and resources necessary to execute Military Strategies to defend against foreign and domestic enemies.” The Three Percenter movement takes its name from the “3% of the colonist [sic]” who allegedly “refused orders by the British Crown to surrender their firearms in the American Revolution,” and it was founded by a conservative activist named Mike Vanderboegh. On his personal blog, Vanderboegh explained that one of the Three Percenter movement’s core beliefs is a willingness to offer violent resistance to the government:

    We intend to maintain our God-given natural rights to liberty and property, and that means most especially the right to keep and bear arms. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders’ Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic.

    We are the people that the collectivists who now control the government should leave alone if they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption. We are the Three Percent. Attempt to further oppress us at your peril.

    To put it bluntly, leave us the hell alone.

    Or, if you feel froggy, go ahead AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

    Last April, a similar collection of militia organizations, including members of the Oath Keepers, gathered near the home of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy to offer armed resistance to federal officials seeking to enforce a court order preventing Bundy from illegally grazing his cattle on federal land. Bundy briefly became a hero among conservative media figures such as Fox News’ Sean Hannity, and Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) labeled Bundy and his supporters “patriots.” Bundy’s moment as a Republican folk hero ended fairly abruptly, however, after he made racist remarks about “the Negro.”

    What sets Bundy’s armed supporters apart from the militia members gathering in Texas, however, is that Bundy’s militia squared off against trained federal law enforcement officials. The militiamen in Texas, by contrast, have threatened to point their guns at desperate and often helpless people crossing the border.

    As you might expect, the militias might be rather fond of soon-to-be governor Greg Abbott given his refusal to denounce their antics while he’s still Attorney General. Of course, if some of those militia members where caught with powerful explosives like ammonium nitrate it’s reasonable to assume Abbot would be will to denounce them at that point. Reasonable and naive:

    San Antonio Express
    Militia leader posed with Greg Abbott four days before feds found ammonium nitrate, weapons at hotel
    By Joshua Fechter : October 31, 2014 : Updated: October 31, 2014 12:43pm

    Four days before federal authorities arrested him on federal weapons charges and found ammonium nitrate in his South Texas hotel room, border militia leader Kevin Lyndel “K.C.” Massey chatted and posed for a photo with Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott at a campaign event in Brownsville.

    The photo, taken at Brownsville restaurant Cobbleheads on Oct. 16, shows Massey wearing an “Abbott for Governor” sticker on his military fatigues and shaking hands with the smiling candidate.

    Video footage captured by Fox 2 News in Brownsville also shows Massey taking photos of Abbott while wearing a GoPro camera on his head, which was later confiscated during the raid.

    Massey posted another photo of himself and Abbott at the event on his Facebook profile — since deleted, but snagged by ValleyCentral.com — with the caption, “Trying to talk to Greg Abbott about the border problems. I gave him my number we will see if he calls.”

    Abbott deputy communications director Amelia Chasse said Abbott and his campaign did not know who Massey was when the candidate posed with the militia member. She declined to comment whether Massey posed a security threat to Abbott.

    “This individual was part of a photo line at a public event and Greg Abbott took a photo with everyone who was in the line at that event,” Chasse said, adding the two exchanged only “pleasantries” during their brief encounter.

    Agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, who searched Massey’s hotel room in Brownsville after an Oct. 20 arrest, found an AK-47 with six loaded magazines, a loaded handgun, a ballistic helmet and several cameras, as well as an ammunition box filled with suspected ammonium nitrate — which can cause major explosions — and fuel, according to court documents obtained by the San Antonio Express-News.

    Chasse declined to say whether Abbott supports the group.

    “Greg Abbott places his trust in the Department of Public Safety, border sheriffs, the National Guard and local law enforcement to do the job necessary to keep Texans safe,” Chasse said.

    The campaign did not respond to a follow-up question regarding whether Abbott, an avid gun rights advocate, is concerned that some militia members are allegedly patrolling the border with weapons that, under federal law, they are prohibited from carrying.

    Abbott’s opponent Democratic gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis blasted Abbott in a statement for not condemning militia groups’ activity at the U.S.-Mexico border.

    “It’s hard to say what’s more disturbing: the fact that Greg Abbott met with a radical militia leader days before federal authorities found the same kind of explosives from the Oklahoma City bombing in his hotel room or the fact that Greg Abbott is refusing to denounce his dangerous fringe group,” Davis said. “Mr. Abbott’s refusal to disclose what they discussed or condemn this group shows a frightening lack of judgment from someone who wants to be our governor.”

    In July, The Texas Democratic Congressional Delegation, including U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro of San Antonio, called on Abbott to denounce militia groups at the border. At the time, Abbott spokeswoman Lauren Bean called the move a “partisan political stunt.”

    In a statement Friday, Castro said the incident “serves as a reminder that patrolling the border should be left to the authorities.”

    “This is what happens when you don’t stand up for the rule of law, and allow felons to ‘patrol’ the border,” Castro said. “Greg Abbott should take this opportunity to denounce these groups.”

    While the optics of the photo may be unwelcome for the Abbott campaign, it’s not likely to stir any major shakeups four days from the Nov. 4 election, said Mark Jones, a political scientist at Rice University.

    Jones pointed out that candidates take thousands of photos with potential supporters while on campaigning and are unable to vet each one.

    “Certainly for Abbott, it’s not something you would like to see, but at the same time, political candidates shake hands with people at political rallies and meetings on a daily basis,” Jones said.

    Ammonium nitrate has massive explosive power under certain circumstances: a stockpile of the substance at a fertilizer plant in West caused the April 17 explosion that killed 15 people and injured more than 160 others and the substance was also used by Timothy McVeigh in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people.

    To reiterate:

    Abbott deputy communications director Amelia Chasse said Abbott and his campaign did not know who Massey was when the candidate posed with the militia member. She declined to comment whether Massey posed a security threat to Abbott.

    “This individual was part of a photo line at a public event and Greg Abbott took a photo with everyone who was in the line at that event,” Chasse said, adding the two exchanged only “pleasantries” during their brief encounter.

    Chasse declined to say whether Abbott supports the group.

    Yes, the future is looking bright for Texas.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | October 31, 2014, 6:26 pm

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