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FTR #618 Veteran’s Day Interview with John Loftus

Recorded Novem­ber 11, 2007
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In 2007, Mr. Emory observed Vet­er­ans’ Day by vis­it­ing with John Lof­tus, a for­mer mil­i­tary offi­cer who has hero­ically uncov­ered and exposed the machi­na­tions of inter­na­tional fas­cism, bring­ing the forces of both law and jour­nal­ism to bear on the male­fac­tors. In addi­tion to help­ing locate and pros­e­cute Nazi war crim­i­nals that found their way into the United States after the war (many brought in by ele­ments of the gov­ern­ment), John has dili­gently pur­sued the Islam­o­fas­cist Mus­lim Broth­er­hood. Founded in 1928, the Broth­er­hood fought with the Axis dur­ing World War II, jumped to British intel­li­gence and the CIA after the war and—ultimately—spawned the Afghan mujahideen, Al Qaeda, Hamas and Pales­tin­ian Islamic Jihad. The first part of the pro­gram sets forth a new book by John Loftus—an his­tor­i­cal novel that man­i­fests many of the areas of inves­ti­ga­tion John encoun­tered while work­ing for the gov­ern­ment. Titled The Wit­ness Tree, the book treats the sub­jects o:f U.S. indus­tri­al­ists and financiers that backed Hitler and Mus­solini (includ­ing the Bush fam­ily); the fam­ily of Allen, John Fos­ter and Eleanor Dulles and the result­ing black­mail that helped to form the fledg­ling state of Israel. Review­ing John’s work for the Jus­tice Depart­ment, the pro­gram high­lights his inves­ti­ga­tion of the Cru­sade For Free­dom [CFF], an ille­gal domes­tic intel­li­gence oper­a­tion that brought Cen­tral and East­ern Euro­pean fas­cists into the United States after World War II, many of them war crim­i­nals of the first order. Even­tu­ally, the CFF spawned a Nazi wing of the Repub­li­can Party, with its roots firmly anchored in the Third Reich and closely asso­ci­ated with the lead­ing Repub­li­cans of the sec­ond half of the 20th cen­tury. After review­ing the Bush family’s involve­ment with Nazi indus­try, John also recaps the roles of Allen Dulles, British spy and Nazi double-agent Jack Philby and Ibn Saud in the found­ing of the state of Saudi Ara­bia. Treat­ing the sub­ject of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, John reviews that organization’s par­tic­i­pa­tion in World War II on the side of the Axis and its sub­se­quent incor­po­ra­tion into the West’s “fas­cist free­dom fight­ers” pro­gram dur­ing the Cold War. Heir to the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, Sami al-Arian was part of the Bank al-Taqwa com­plex that was nur­tured by lead­ing Repub­li­cans and was busted in the 3/20/2002 Oper­a­tion Green Quest raids, pre­cip­i­tated by a law­suit filed by John. After not­ing that al-Arian’s name dis­ap­peared from a list of ter­ror­ist sus­pects, John spec­u­lated that either he had turned infor­mant, or that his pow­er­ful friends in the GOP may have got­ten him off. Revis­it­ing the sub­ject of WMD’s, John dis­closed that he has recently had oppor­tu­nity to review cap­tured Iraqi doc­u­ments indi­cat­ing that Sad­dam did indeed have WMD’s. It is worth not­ing that the pro­gram was nei­ther what the Bush admin­is­tra­tion stated, nor what its crit­ics have claimed. Stored in spe­cially con­structed ware­houses built under the Euphrates River, the WMD tech­nol­ogy was spir­ited out of Iraq under the noses of Amer­i­can troops.

Pro­gram High­lights Include: Dis­cus­sion of John’s new online radio pro­gram; Richard Nixon’s par­tic­i­pa­tion in the Cru­sade For Free­dom; Ronald Reagan’s par­tic­i­pa­tion in the Cru­sade For Free­dom; William Casey’s par­tic­i­pa­tion in the Cru­sade For Free­dom; the elder George Bush’s involve­ment with the Cru­sade For Free­dom milieu and his instal­la­tion of the Nazis as a per­ma­nent part of the Repub­li­can Party; the links of GOP lob­by­ist Grover Norquist to the ter­ror­ist fund­ing appa­ra­tus busted on 3/20/2002; Karl Rove’s links to the same terror-funding milieu.

1. The dis­cus­sion begins with infor­ma­tion about John’s new book The Wit­ness Tree. High­light­ing the life of Eleanor Dulles (sis­ter of Allen and John Fos­ter Dulles), this his­tor­i­cal novel notes that her hus­band was a Jew, who died under strange cir­cum­stances. Not­ing the West­ern finan­cial sup­port for Hitler and fas­cism and the behind-the scenes maneu­ver­ing around the cre­ation of the state of Israel, the book presents his­tor­i­cal truth pack­aged in the form of a novel. Not yet avail­able in the United States as of the time of the inter­view, the book is avail­able in Canada. Learn more about The Wit­ness Tree.

2. In addi­tion to dis­cussing John’s new book, the pro­gram set forth details John’s new Inter­net broad­cast, The Lof­tus Report.

3. Pro­mot­ing yet another of John’s projects, we also high­lighted his annual “Intel­li­gence Sum­mit”— a gath­er­ing of media per­son­nel and intel­li­gence offi­cers, assem­bled for the pur­pose of shar­ing infor­ma­tion and devel­op­ing solu­tions for the world’s com­plex prob­lems. Find out more about this project at: http://www.intelligencesummit.org/speakers/JohnLoftus.php.

4. With the pro­gram being recorded on Vet­er­ans’ Day, the dis­cus­sion high­lighted John’s work with the Office of Spe­cial Inves­ti­ga­tions, a Jus­tice Depart­ment orga­ni­za­tion assem­bled for the pur­pose of bring­ing to jus­tice Nazi war crim­i­nals that escaped to the United States. Of par­tic­u­lar sig­nif­i­cance in this part of the pro­gram is the Cru­sade For Free­dom, a domes­tic intel­li­gence oper­a­tion that imported Nazis and East­ern Euro­pean col­lab­o­ra­tors for domes­tic polit­i­cal pur­poses. This fas­cist milieu even­tu­ally evolved into a major wing of the Repub­li­can Party. (For more about the CFF, see—among other programs—FTR#465.) The CFF was the brain­child of Allen Dulles, who played a major role in help­ing to finance Nazi Ger­many and sub­se­quently assisted the Nazis in their flight cap­i­tal pro­gram that evolved into the Bor­mann cap­i­tal net­work. [Dulles later became direc­tor of the CIA at the same time that his brother and fel­low Sul­li­van & Cromwell part­ner John Fos­ter Dulles became Sec­re­tary of State.] (For more infor­ma­tion about Dulles and his efforts on behalf of the Nazi bankers and indus­tri­al­ists and their Amer­i­can busi­ness part­ners, see—among other programs—FTR#’s 361, 532, 578.)

5. Ronald Rea­gan served as the front man for the Cru­sade for Free­dom. Devised by Allen Dulles (who invested Bush fam­ily money in the Third Reich and later became direc­tor of the CIA), this oper­a­tion was over­seen by Richard Nixon. William Casey (Nixon’s direc­tor of the SEC and man­ager of the Reagan-Bush cam­paign in 1980) over­saw the State Depart­ment machi­na­tions that brought these Nazi and fas­cist ele­ments into the United States. Casey later became direc­tor of the CIA. “As a young movie actor in the early 1950’s, Rea­gan was employed as the pub­lic spokesper­son for an OPC front named the ‘Cru­sade for Free­dom.’ Rea­gan may not have known it, but 99 per­cent for the Crusade’s funds came from clan­des­tine accounts, which were then laun­dered through the Cru­sade to var­i­ous orga­ni­za­tions such as Radio Lib­erty, which employed Dulles’s Fas­cists. Bill Casey, who later became CIA direc­tor under Ronald Rea­gan, also worked in Ger­many after World War II on Dulles’ Nazi ‘free­dom fight­ers’ pro­gram. When he returned to New York, Casey headed up another OPC front, the Inter­na­tional Res­cue Com­mit­tee, which spon­sored the immi­gra­tion of these Fas­cists to the United States. Casey’s com­mit­tee replaced the Inter­na­tional Red Cross as the spon­sor for Dulles’s recruits. Con­fi­den­tial inter­views, for­mer mem­bers, OPC; for­mer mem­bers, British for­eign and Com­mon­wealth Office.”
(The Secret War Against the Jews; by John Lof­tus and Mark Aarons; Copy­right 1994 by Mark Aarons; St. Martin’s Press; [HC] ISBN 0–312-11057-X; p. 605.)

6. More about Nixon’s recruit­ing role for CFF: “The truth was quite sor­did: With the help of the Dulles-Angleton clique, the Vat­i­can had sent many of the East­ern Euro­pean Nazis to West­ern coun­tries, includ­ing the United States, Aus­tralia and Canada, where the right wing recruited them to get out the rest of the East­ern Euro­pean eth­nic vote. The man who ran the polit­i­cal recruit­ment was Richard Nixon.” (Ibid.; p. 122.)

7. While serv­ing as chair­man of the Repub­li­can National Com­mit­tee, the elder George Bush shep­herded the Nazi émigré com­mu­nity into posi­tion as a per­ma­nent branch of the Repub­li­can Party. “It was Bush who ful­filled Nixon’s promise to make the ‘eth­nic emi­gres’ a per­ma­nent part of Repub­li­can pol­i­tics. In 1972, Nixon’s State Depart­ment spokesman con­firmed to his Aus­tralian coun­ter­part that the eth­nic groups were very use­ful to get out the vote in sev­eral key states. Bush’s tenure as head of the Repub­li­can National Com­mit­tee exactly coin­cided with Las­zlo Pasztor’s 1972 drive to trans­form the Her­itage Groups Coun­cil into the party’s offi­cial eth­nic arm. The groups Pasz­tor chose as Bush’s cam­paign allies were the émigré Fas­cists whom Dulles had brought to the United States.”(Ibid.; pp. 369–370.)

8. In keep­ing with remem­brance of Vet­er­ans’ Day, the pro­gram reviews infor­ma­tion about the role of Amer­i­can financiers and indus­tri­al­ists in financ­ing Hitler and Mus­solini. In par­tic­u­lar, the pro­gram reviews the Webb-Pomerene Act, a loop­hole in the anti-Trust laws that made monop­o­lies ille­gal. The Webb-Pomerene Act made it legal for the “Rob­ber Barons” to part­ner with their coun­ter­parts in for­eign coun­tries in the for­ma­tion of cartels—international monop­o­lies. Under the pro­vi­sions of the Webb-Pomerene Act, the prof­its from the U.S. indus­trial boom of the 1920’s were rein­vested abroad, mostly in Ger­man, Japan­ese and (to a lesser extent) Ital­ian strate­gic heavy indus­try. For more dis­cus­sion of this sub­ject, see FTR#’s 426, 370, 532, as well as the “Intro­duc­tion” to the anti-fascist books avail­able on this web­site. Nel­son Rockefeller’s role in financ­ing the Nazis (along with the efforts in that regard of the rest of the Rock­e­feller fam­ily) was uti­lized by the fledg­ling Zion­ist move­ment to black­mail him in order to muster the req­ui­site votes in the United Nations to cre­ate the nation of Israel. (For more about this sub­ject, see FTR#29, as well as John’s The Secret War Against the Jews, co-authored with Mark Aarons.) John high­lights the fact that at a con­fer­ence in Dus­sel­dorf in 1939, an assem­bly of the world’s cor­po­rate elite agreed on a plan for divid­ing indus­trial pro­duc­tion among the world’s giant firms and allo­cat­ing patent tech­nol­ogy accord­ingly. This “New World Order” was to have been the real­iza­tion of the cartelists’ plans, but was [tem­porar­ily] dis­rupted by the out­break of World War II.

9. Next, the pro­gram reviews some of the Bush fam­ily indus­trial con­nec­tions to the Third Reich. (For more about this, see—among other programs—FTR#’s 361, 370, 435, 475. See also: www.debatecomics.org/BushFamilyFortune/, a site that accesses the actual declas­si­fied gov­ern­ment doc­u­ments about the Bush family’s involve­ment with Nazi indus­try and finance.) “Apart from dis­clos­ing that ‘Grand­fa­ther Walker’ came from ‘ a devout Catholic fam­ily,’ was named after the poet George Her­bert, and formed his own invest­ment firm, George Bush revealed prac­ti­cally noth­ing about his grand­fa­ther in his auto­bi­og­ra­phy. How­ever, there was another, far seamier side to George Walker. Walker was one of Hitler’s most pow­er­ful finan­cial sup­port­ers in the United States. The rela­tion­ship went all the way back to 1924, when Fritz Thyssen, the Ger­man indus­tri­al­ist, was financ­ing Hitler’s infant Nazi party. As men­tioned in ear­lier chap­ters, there were Amer­i­can con­trib­u­tors as well. Some Amer­i­cans were just big­ots and made their con­nec­tions to Ger­many through Allen Dulles’ firm of Sul­li­van & Cromwell because they sup­ported fas­cism. The Dulles broth­ers, who were in it for profit more than ide­ol­ogy, arranged Amer­i­can invest­ments in Nazi Ger­many in the 1930’s to ensure that their clients did well out of the Ger­man eco­nomic recov­ery. ‘Dulles clearly empha­sized projects for Ger­many . . . and for Mussolini’s fas­cist state . . . All told, these and more than a dozen sim­i­lar trans­ac­tions had a com­bined value in excess of a bil­lion dol­lars.’ Walker also set up a deal to take over the North Amer­i­can oper­a­tions of the Hamburg-Amerika Line, a cover for I.G. Farben’s Nazi espi­onage united in the United States. The ship­ping line smug­gled in Ger­man agents, pro­pa­ganda, and money for brib­ing Amer­i­can politi­cians to see things Hitler’s way. The hold­ing com­pany was Walker’s Amer­i­can Ship­ping & Com­merce, which shared the offices at 39 Broad­way with Union Bank­ing. In an elab­o­rate cor­po­rate paper trail, Harriman’s stock in Amer­i­can Ship­ping & Com­merce was con­trolled by yet another hold­ing com­pany, the Har­ri­man Fif­teen Cor­po­ra­tion, run out of Walker’s office. The direc­tors of this com­pany were Aver­ill Har­ri­man, Bert Walker, and Prescott Bush. At some point, Prescott Bush [W’s grand­fa­ther] must have real­ized that his father-in-law was, to put it mildly, a very shady char­ac­ter. A 1934 con­gres­sional inves­ti­ga­tion alleged that Walker’s ‘Hamburg-Amerika Line sub­si­dized a wide range of pro-Nazi pro­pa­ganda efforts both in Ger­many and the United States.” (Ibid.; pp. 358–359.)

10. Next, the broad­cast reviews some of the “net­work­ing” that has occurred among the house of Saud, the Third Reich, the Dulles broth­ers (prin­ci­pal oper­a­tors in Sul­li­van & Cromwell) and British spy and Nazi agent Jack Philby. It was this trio—Dulles, Philby and Saud—who launched the exis­tence of “mod­ern” Saudi Ara­bia. “This period, stretch­ing from the end of World War I to just after the end of World War II, was char­ac­ter­ized by three very evil men: Jack Philby, a British spy; Ibn Saud, his Arab pro­tégé; and Allen Dulles, an Amer­i­can spy and Wall Street lawyer spe­cial­iz­ing in inter­na­tional finance. The racist nature of their secret war against Zion­ism does not appear in his­tory books for a sim­ple rea­son. Jack Philby later was paid by West­ern oil com­pa­nies to write pro-Arab pro­pa­ganda dis­guised as his­tory. Ibn Saud is remem­bered as the glo­ri­ous Arab leader who uni­fied Saudi Ara­bia and led the rich­est oil region in the world into part­ner­ship with the West. Philby, if he is remem­bered at all, has the rep­u­ta­tion of a schol­arly British Ara­bist over­shad­owed by his son, Kim, the infa­mous Soviet dou­ble agent. Jack Philby has become an obscure foot­note to the his­tory of the Cold war. But his legacy was far from minor. He is one of the lesser-known but most influ­en­tial per­sons in the mod­ern his­tory of the Mid­dle East, the rene­gade British intel­li­gence agent who plucked an obscure ter­ror­ist out of the desert and helped to make him the king of Saudi Ara­bia. Ibn Saud was very much his cre­ation. Philby stole the infor­ma­tion from British intel­li­gence files that engi­neered Saudi con­trol over the holi­est shrines of the Moslem world. Jack Philby and Ibn Saud betrayed the British Empire and made the Amer­i­can oil com­pa­nies eco­nomic mas­ters of the region. The man who helped them do it was Allen Dulles, an Amer­i­can spy who had befriended Philby while he was coor­di­nat­ing Amer­i­can intel­li­gence gath­er­ing in the Mid­dle East in the first half of the 1920’s. Between them, these three men built the very foun­da­tions of the mod­ern Mid­dle East. They were the archi­tects of the oil weapon, the insti­ga­tors of war, the manip­u­la­tors of his­tory. More impor­tant, Philby’s and Ibn Saud’s polit­i­cal and philo­soph­i­cal alle­giance was to Nazi Ger­many, while much of Dulles’s prof­its came from the same source. ” (Ibid.; p. 21.)

11. Turn­ing to the sub­ject of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, John recaps the his­tory of the Broth­er­hood, its col­lab­o­ra­tion with the Axis dur­ing World War II, its post­war spon­sor­ship, first by British intel­li­gence and then by the CIA, which assisted the Broherhood’s dias­pora to Saudi Ara­bia, where it spawned the Afghan mujahideen, Al Qaeda, Hamas and Pales­tin­ian Islamic Jihad. For more about this, see—among other programs—FTR#473.

12. One of the grotesque ironies of the heinous dis­in­for­ma­tion being dis­sem­i­nated by the so-called “Truthers”—the unsa­vory assem­blage tout­ing the con­trolled demo­li­tion of the World Trade Center/cruise mis­sile hit the Pen­ta­gon nonsense—is the fact that there is an unequiv­o­cal body of evi­dence link­ing ele­ments of the Bush admin­is­tra­tion and the GOP to the milieu that exe­cuted the 9/11 attacks. Numer­ous broad­casts have high­lighted the 3/30/2002 Oper­a­tion Green Quest Raids. Those raids dis­closed sig­nif­i­cant links between GOP king­pins Karl Rove and Grover Norquist and Islamist char­i­ties and busi­nesses that are part of a terror-funding milieu con­nected to Al –Qaeda, Hamas and Pales­tin­ian Islamic Jihad. (For more about this, see—among other programs—FTR#’s, 435, 454, 462, 464, 467, 515, 538.) John dis­closed that al-Arian’s name had dis­ap­peared from a list of fed­eral ter­ror sus­pects! He [John] spec­u­lated that either al-Arian’s pow­er­ful friends—George Bush, Grover Norquist or Karl Rove—might have got­ten him off! Mr. Emory noted that al-Arian’s sup­port­ers bridge the gap between ultra-reactionary and “pro­gres­sive.” In addi­tion to peo­ple like Bush, Norquist and Karl Rove, al-Arian enjoys the sup­port of inter­ests like the Paci­fica radio net­work and sim­i­lar faux-progressive insti­tu­tions. “LOFTUS: Well, you know, it’s a funny story. About a year-and-a half ago, peo­ple in the intel­li­gence com­mu­nity came and said-guys like Alam­oudi and Sami al-Arian and other ter­ror­ists weren’t being touched because they’d been ordered not to inves­ti­gate the cases, not to pros­e­cute them, because they were being funded by the Saudis and a polit­i­cal deci­sion was being made at the high­est lev­els, don’t do any­thing that would embar­rass the Saudi gov­ern­ment. So, of course I imme­di­ately vol­un­teered to do it and I filed a law­suit, against al-Arian charg­ing him with being a major ter­ror­ist for Islamic Jihad; most of his money came from Saudi char­i­ties in Vir­ginia. Now, Alamoudi’s head­quar­ters were in the same place, he was raided the same day, on March 20. An hour after I filed my law­suit, the U.S. gov­ern­ment finally got off its butt and they raided these offices. And, the stuff that they’re tak­ing out of there now is absolutely hor­ren­dous. Al-Arian has now, finally been indicted, along with Alam­oudi, today. But, who was it that fixed the cases? How could these guys oper­ate for more than a decade immune from pros­e­cu­tion? And, the answer is com­ing out in a very strange place. What Alam­oudi and al-Arian have in com­mon is a guy named Grover Norquist. He’s the super lob­by­ist. Newt Gingrich’s guy, the one the NRA calls on, head of Amer­i­can tax­pay­ers. He is the guy that was hired by Alam­oudi to head up the Islamic insti­tute and he’s the reg­is­tered agent for Alam­oudi, per­son­ally, and for the Islamic Insti­tute. Grover Norquist’s best friend is Karl Rove, the White House chief of staff, and appar­ently Norquist was able to fix things. He got extreme right wing Mus­lim peo­ple to be the gate­keep­ers in the White House. That’s why mod­er­ate [Mus­lim] Amer­i­cans couldn’t speak out after 9/11. Mod­er­ate Mus­lims couldn’t get into the White House because Norquist’s friends were block­ing their access.”
(“ ‘Count­down with Keith Olber­man’ for Oct. 23”; MSNBC News; 10/23/2003.)

13. The fact that ele­ments of the Al Qaeda milieu appear to have been involved in West­ern intel­li­gence covert oper­a­tions in the Balkans, as well as the incon­ve­nient GOP ethnic/Green Quest con­nec­tion may well explain the FBI’s and CIA’s hos­tile inter­est in the inves­ti­ga­tors of Oper­a­tion Green Quest. The inves­ti­ga­tors who were so harassed included Rita Katz, A.K.A. “Anony­mous.” (For more about Rita Katz, see—among other programs—FTR#569.) After review­ing the harass­ment of Rita and other Green Quest inves­ti­ga­tors, the pro­gram high­lights the sim­i­lar harass­ment received by John Lof­tus after the 3/20/2002 Oper­a­tion Green Quest raids. John also reviewed the harass­ment he received in the early 1980’s fol­low­ing his inves­tiga­tive work for the Office of Spe­cial Inves­ti­ga­tions, cul­mi­nat­ing in his work on a 1982 60-Minutes seg­ment on the impor­ta­tion of Nazi war crim­i­nals into the United States. “The CIA was inves­ti­gat­ing me and the SAAR inves­ti­ga­tors from Green Quest and Cus­toms. The CIA and the FBI inves­ti­gated every­one who had any­thing to do with the SAAR inves­ti­ga­tion. White vans and SUV’s with dark win­dows appeared near all the homes of the SAAR inves­ti­ga­tors. All agents, some of whom were very expe­ri­enced with sur­veil­lance, knew they were being fol­lowed. So was I. I felt that I was being fol­lowed every­where and watched at home, in the super­mar­ket, on the way to work . . . and for what? . . .”
(Ter­ror­ist Hunter by “Anony­mous” [Rita Katz]; CCC [imprint of Harper Collins]; Copy­right 2003 by Harper Collins [HC]; ISBN 0–06-052819–2; p. 328.)

14. John pre­sented a [to many] sur­pris­ing and thought pro­vok­ing element—his review of cap­tured Iraqi doc­u­ments that dis­closed that Sad­dam DID have an active WMD pro­gram. The hard­ware and other essen­tial ele­ments of the pro­gram were stored in under­ground ware­houses beneath the Euphrates River. They were spir­ited out right under the noses of the occu­py­ing troops. This sub­ject will be taken up at greater length in a future broad­cast. For more infor­ma­tion about this sub­ject, see “About Shat­ter­ing Con­ven­tional Wis­dom.”

15. Two video pro­duc­tions are being gen­er­ated by a cou­ple of doc­u­men­tary film­mak­ers. One is a DVD of a three-lecture series called “The First Refuge of a Scoundrel: The Rela­tion­ship Between Fas­cism and Reli­gion.” In addi­tion, there will soon be a doc­u­men­tary about Mr. Emory, titled “The Anti-Fascist.” For more about this project, visit TheAntiFascist.com.

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