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FTR #639 The Aliens Are Coming! The Aliens Are Coming – NOT! (Part II)

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Further developing a point of information introduced at the conclusion of FTR#638, the broadcast begins by noting that a scientist has designed a prototype of a sophisticated electrical flying saucer. As discussed in that program, there are firm indications that UFO’s are real, but do not come from “outer space” and are not piloted by “aliens.” UFO sightings continue to make the news, with a well-publicized incident in Texas garnering worldwide, mainstream press coverage. Next, the broadcast revisits the concern about the possibility of an “intergalactic war” expressed by former Canadian Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister Paul Hellyer. The Japanese Defense Minister also is concerned about interplanetary warfare. The “mainstreaming” of belief in extraterrestrials is a phenomenon to be very carefully considered. Are we being psychologically prepared for some sort of “alien” appearance? The Vatican has also weighed in on Space Aliens and UFOs, opining that belief in the existence of “extraterrestrials” is not inconsistent with Catholic dogma. A fascinating manifestation of “ET Belief” concerns an alleged race of tall, blond “aliens” who will save us in our time of peril! This belief in the existence of “good,” tall, blond aliens who will save us should be contrasted with material highlighted in FTR#170–recapitulated on the second side of this program. “Everybody is descended from space aliens, except for the black race.” The clear implication is that they are inferior!

Program Highlights Include: The reported presence of military aircraft around the “UFO’s” sighted recently in Texas; review of the opinion that ETs are real and that we may find ourselves in an intergalactic war– expressed by the former head of the British Ministry of Defense’s UFO investigative body!

1. Further developing a point of information introduced at the conclusion of FTR#638, the broadcast notes that a scientist has designed a prototype of a sophisticated electrical flying saucer. As discussed in that program, there are firm indications that UFO’s are real, but do not come from “outer space” and are not piloted by “aliens.” Is professor Roy’s discovery actually the first appearance of this type of technology, or has it been developed before? “Flying saucers may soon be more fact than mere science fiction. University of Florida mechanical and aerospace engineering associate professor Subrata Roy has submitted a patent application for a circular, spinning aircraft design reminiscent of the spaceships seen in countless Hollywood films. Roy, however, calls his design a ‘wingless electromagnetic air vehicle or WEAV. . . .”

(“Professor Designs Plasma-Propelled Flying Saucer;” Science Daily; 6/12/2008.)

2. UFO sightings continue to make the news, with a well-publicized incident in Texas garnering world-wide, mainstream press coverage: “Constable Lee Roy Gaitan saw the brilliant red orbs hovering in the sky and hollered for his family to come out. It’s probably an airplane, said his wife, Wendy, who didn’t budge from the couch. Only 8-year-old Ryan went to the front yard. That’s a UFO, the boy said. . . . Soon, scores more said they had seen the same thing. . . . On a cold January night in nearby Selden, Steve Allen, 50, and a few friends standing around a fire saw a set of brilliant white lights that were quicker and quieter than anything they had ever seen. The lights stopped near Stephenville, reconfigured to form an arch ‘shaped like the top of a football,’ Allen said, and realigned themselves into two vertical lines of randomly flashing lights. . . . . Ten minutes later, the group saw the lights coming from the opposite direction. Trailing them closely, Allen was certain were two military jets followed by two massive red orbs. . . . [Italics are Mr. Emory’s.]”

(“Texas Town Recovers from its UFO Mania” by Denise Gellene [Los Angeles Times]; San Jose Mercury News; 6/20/2008; p. 8A.)

3. Next, the broadcast revisits the concern about the possibility of an “intergalactic war” expressed by former Canadian Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister Paul Hellyer. “A former Canadian Minister of Defense and Deputy Prime Minister under Pierre Trudeau has joined forces with three non-governmental organizations to ask the Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on Exopolitics — relations with ‘ETs.’ By ‘ETs,’ Mr. Hellyer and these organizations mean ethical, advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that may now be visiting Earth. On September 25, 2005, in a startling speech at the University of Toronto that caught the attention of mainstream newspapers and magazines, Paul Hellyer, Canada’s Defense Minister from 1963-67 under Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Prime Minister Lester Pearson, publicly stated: ‘UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head.’ Mr. Hellyer went on to say, ‘I’m so concerned about what the consequences might be of starting an intergalactic war, that I just think I had to say something.’ Hellyer revealed, ‘The secrecy involved in all matters pertaining to the Roswell incident was unparalleled. The classification was, from the outset, above top secret, so the vast majority of U.S. officials and politicians, let alone a mere allied minister of defense, were never in-the-loop.’ Hellyer warned, ‘The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. He stated, ‘The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide.’ . . .”

(“Former Canadian Minister Of Defense Asks Canadian Parliament To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien ‘Et’ Civilizations” [PRWeb].)

4. The Japanese Defense Minister also is concerned about interplanetary warfare: The “mainstreaming” of belief in extraterrestrials is a phenomenon to be very carefully considered. Are we being psychologically prepared for some sort of “alien” appearance? “Japan’s Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba is considering how his Self-Defense Forces could respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under the country’s war-renouncing Constitution. Ishiba is the second Cabinet member to profess his belief in unidentified flying objects after Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura . . . .”

(“Defense Minister Ishiba Considers Japan’s Options in UFO Attack” by Stuart Biggs; Bloomberg New Service; 12/21/2007.)

5. The Vatican has also weighed in on Space Aliens and UFO’s. ” . . . In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion ‘doesn’t contradict our faith’ because aliens would still be God’s creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like ‘putting limits’ on God’s freedom, he said. . . .”

(“Vatican: It’s OK to Believe in Aliens” by Ariel David; Associated Press; 5/14/2008.)

6. A fascinating manifestation of “ET Belief” concerns an alleged race of tall, blond “aliens” who will save us in our time of peril! This belief in the existence of “good,” tall, blond aliens who will save us should be contrasted with material highlighted in FTR#170, recapitulated on the second side of this program. “Everybody is descended from space aliens, except for the black race.” The clear implication is that they are inferior! Tall, blond “aliens”-good. Black terrestrials-bad. Doesn’t sound too Goddamn “extraterrestrial”! Sounds very, very terrestrial! In fact, it sounds Nazi! ” . . . ‘The aliens gave me warnings of a possible future in which the planet and/or the human race could face destruction. They asked me to share with you what role they will play if we are threatened as a species or if there is a threat to the Earth itself. . . . The Tall Blonds are here to help protect the planet from outside forces that may not be know to us at this time.’ . . .”

(“Blue Star” by Miriam Delicado.)

7. The second side of the program is comprised of a re-broadcast of FTR 170, “Plan Nine from Berchtesgaden.” Recorded on 9/19/1999, the program discusses an occult concept of “The Nine,” who are-take your pick-space aliens, the ancestors of everyone and everything (except the black race), especially the ancient Egyptians. If this sounds a little far-fetched, it is. Sadly, some people believe in it. The central element in this concatenation is the notion that all humans are descended from space aliens, except for the African race. Mr. Emory notes that the Nation of Islam propagates a philosophy that features the notion that Elijah Muhammad, founder of the organization, is orbiting the earth in a giant mother ship. At “The appointed Hour” the ship will land-presumably with others of its kind-and spirit all the black folks to some sort of “Heaven.” In his ancillary discussion, Mr. Emory compares this fanciful notion with the Nazis’ plan to “resettle the Jews in the East.” Of course, we know just how and where they actually were “resettled.” Mr. Emory sees the scenario described here as a cross between Marcus Garvey’s Black Star Liners and the boxcars to Auschwitz. (Garvey garnered a large following in the early 20th century proposing that there would be a black “reverse diaspora,” in which the descendants of the African slaves would be returned to Africa in large ships dubbed Black Star Liners Note that FTRs 67, 167, 178 also discuss “Aryan” and/or blond aliens.

8. For purposes of convenience, the description for FTR#170 is presented here: With the end of the millennium drawing near, it is increasingly important to be aware of possible political manipulation of people’s apocalyptic fears and hopes. In that context, a channeling cult called “The Nine” bears particular examination. Purporting to be the “Ennead” (the nine gods of ancient Egypt), they have links to many different individuals and institutions including: Andrija Puharich (connected to the CIA’s mind control programs of the 50s and 60s), Russians associated with the Gorbachev regime in the former USSR, the Esalen Institute and numerous New Age organizations. This organization espouses a racist, ariosophist philosophy that maintains that all of the Earth’s peoples are descended from The Nine-and the “Extraterrestrials” from whom they supposedly evolved–(and, consequently, superior) except for the black race (who are, consequently, inferior With the New Age movement growing and with 42% of American college graduates believing that we have been visited by space aliens, the danger that the views of The Nine could achieve widespread acceptance and lead to genocide is not one that should be too readily cast aside. (It should be noted that there is convincing evidence that so-called UFO’s are real, but do not come from outer space. Should they be deployed in conjunction with other types of secret technology, the views of The Nine could be reinforced in a very convincing way As noted above, Andrija Puharich, whose organization has done much to promote The Nine, was involved with the CIA mind-control programs. Those programs were initiated from a research base developed by the Nazis in World War II.

Discussion

5 comments for “FTR #639 The Aliens Are Coming! The Aliens Are Coming – NOT! (Part II)”

  1. It turns out this whole global economic nightmare really was part of an alien invasion after all.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | May 14, 2012, 9:13 pm
  2. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/former-canadian-defense-minister-says-stop-wars-and-space-aliens-will-share-technology/

    Former Canadian defense minister says: Stop wars and space aliens will share technology
    January 7, 2014 Posted by News under Extraterrestrial life, Intelligent Design, News

    Further to “The hidden benefits of the pursuit of ET. And the hidden costs.”, 1960s-era Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer aptly demonstrates one of the latter, as the National Post tells it: “Paul Hellyer: Aliens would share technology if earth stopped wars.”

    Notice how conventional moralizing (“war is bad”) hits the world headlines if space aliens can be linked to it, with no evidence whatsoever and no expectation of any.

    Like:

    green space alien Prez sez: “War is bad.”

    Pope sez: “War is bad.”

    Crickets say nothing intelligible.

    The zoid from planet Zongo sez “War is bad.”

    World hedders chime in.

    Whaa?! The up side to all this is the coffee break. The down side is, war really is bad, and nonexistent alien opinion is a waste of bandwidth even on a slow news day:

    Hellyer, 90, told Russia Today last week that he believes there are 80 different species of extraterrestrials, some of whom “look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one.

    Happily, very few of them are dangerous; in fact, the universe is just like downtown Toronto, where your UD news writer and Paul Hellyer both lived for decades. Amazing coincidence.

    Hellyer described a cosmos similar to that of Star Trek and says that there is a “federation” of aliens that has a rule to not interfere in our affairs — the same as Trek’s “prime directive.”

    The aliens got that idea from Star Trek, actually. They concluded that it was a safer policy for them than suicide bombing, which they had formerly espoused.

    Note: The comment at the National Post are hilarious; many relate to Hellyer outfitting all the armed services in identical green garbage-bag uniforms, a morale-busting move.

    Follow UD News at Twitter! The Science Fictions series at your fingertips

    Posted by Vanfield | January 8, 2014, 11:29 am
  3. Why does Whatdoesitmean.com do what it does? Precious moments like this:

    The Washington Post
    World Views
    Iranian news agency says the U.S. is secretly run by Nazi space aliens. Really.

    By Max Fisher
    January 13 at 11:31 am

    Iran’s semi-official news outlets have something of a reputation for taking conspiracy theorism to the next level. They’ve written on Israel’s secret plans to annex Iraq, the conspiracy by Western media to fabricate quotes by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani condemning the Holocaust and the secret Jewishness of the British royal family. You may notice a certain theme here.

    On Sunday, the hard-line semi-official Fars News dropped one of its biggest bombshells yet: The United States government has been secretly run by a “shadow government” of space aliens since 1945. Yes, space aliens. The alien government is based out of Nevada and had previously run Nazi Germany. It adds, for timeliness, that the controversial NSA programs are actually a tool for the aliens to hide their presence on Earth and their secret agenda for global domination. This is all asserted as incontrovertible fact with no caveats.

    There are so many wonderful details here. As proof that aliens were secretly behind the Nazis, the report explains that Germany built hundreds of submarines toward the end of the war, far more than would have been possible with mere human technology. It does not explain why aliens with access to interstellar travel built subs that were so grossly incapable against the British navy, or why all-powerful extraterrestrials were unable to help the Nazis resist an invasion by Allied forces that are mere cavemen relative to their own technology. So far, these are pretty unimpressive aliens.

    In any case, after losing the war, the aliens apparently installed themselves as the secret force behind the United States government. President Obama is said to be a tool of the aliens, though anti-alien factions within the U.S. government are fighting to topple him. Their present aim is to install a global surveillance system that will, somehow, allow them to finally impose a one-world government and enslave humanity.

    The best part to all this, to me, is the sourcing. Fars News takes us through a veritable hall-of-mirrors of sources “confirming” their scoop. The progenitor of it all, of course, is ostensibly NSA leaker Edward Snowden, who has waited until now to reveal that the real reason for all those NSA programs is aliens. As best I can tell, Fars claims that Snowden gave this information to Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB). They also say it was independently confirmed by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer. (Hellyer, who is 90, does indeed argue that aliens have visited Earth many times, though I haven’t seen him comment on this particular story.) The FSB, they say, put all this information down in a secret report, which was inexplicably obtained by the ultra-fringe conspiracy theory Web site, Whatdoesitmean.com.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | January 15, 2014, 10:34 pm
  4. It sounds like the American political arena might be getting another Pence soon: Vice President Mike Pence’s brother, Gregory, filed papers with the Federal Election Commission to run for his brother’s old congressional seat and is considered a strong favorite for that seat. Oh goodie.

    But that’s not the only Pence-related news about people deciding to run for congress, although the following news is admittedly very tangentially related to Pence: Bettina Rodriguez Aguilera, a member of Miami’s Cuban exile community who is also the mother-in-law of Pence’s deputy chief of staff Jarrod Agen, is also running for congress. It doens’t sounds like her odds are nearly as good as Gregory’s, largely because she has a history of talking about about her alien abduction experiences. And a lot of other stuff of that nature.

    So what kind of aliens? Well, there are scant details in the following article, but the details do give us a hint as to which alien genre she’s drawing from: when Rodriguez Aguilera was seven years old she was allegedly obducted by 3 large-bodied blond aliens. In addition, in the following youtube video of her talking about this experience it notes that these were blue eyed aliens too. Yep, we have another case of the “tall blonds”. And that means the brand of alien that apparently abducted Mike Pence’s deputy chief of staff’s mother-in-law who is now running in the GOP primary is the “Nordic” brand of alien. The white supremacist alien of choice. Surprise:

    Miami Herald

    Miami politician says aliens took her on a spaceship. Now she’s running for Congress.

    By Alex Daugherty And Patricia Mazzei
    October 16, 2017 7:00 AM

    WASHINGTON

    Florida has a U.S. senator who once flew aboard the Space Shuttle.

    A congressional candidate from Miami can go one better: Bettina Rodriguez Aguilera says she’s been aboard a spaceship too. But this one was crewed by aliens. As in extraterrestrials.

    Three blond, big-bodied beings — two females, one male — visited her when she was 7 years old and have communicated telepathically with her several times in her life, she says. (Sen. Bill Nelson served as payload officer aboard the Space Shuttle Columbia in 1986. All seven people aboard were from Earth. As far as is known.)

    Rodriguez Aguilera, 59, a Republican who is running to replace retiring Miami Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, recounted her experience with the ETs during a 2009 television interview.

    She described “going up” inside the spaceship — though whether it went into space or just hovered around town was left unclear.

    “I went in. There were some round seats that were there, and some quartz rocks that controlled the ship — not like airplanes,” Rodriguez Aguilera said.

    In two separate videos posted to YouTube years ago, one by local Spanish-language station America TeVe and another by a political critic with the user name DoralGirl26, Rodriguez Aguilera spoke on television in detail about her extraterrestrial experiences. She said the alien beings reminded her of the famous statue in Rio de Janeiro, Christ the Redeemer, with arms outstretched.

    Among the things she said she found out from the aliens:

    * There are 30,000 skulls — “different from humans” — in a cave in the Mediterranean island of Malta.

    * The world’s “energy center” is in Africa.

    * The Coral Castle, a limestone tourist attraction South Miami-Dade, is actually an ancient Egyptian pyramid.

    * “God is a universal energy.”

    She also said that the aliens had mentioned Isis, though she didn’t clarify if they meant the terrorist organization or the ancient Egyptian goddess.

    The Miami Herald asked Rodriguez Aguilera about her experiences Friday. She responded with a statement that waxed astronomical, but sadly failed to mention close encounters of any kind.

    “For years people, including Presidents like Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter and astronauts have publicly claimed to have seen unidentified flying objects and scientists like Stephen Hawking and institutions like the Vatican have stated that there are billions of galaxies in the universe and we are probably not alone,” she said. “I personally am a Christian and have a strong belief in God, I join the majority of Americans who believe that there must be intelligent life in the billions of planets and galaxies in the universe.”

    Rodriguez Aguilera was a Doral councilwoman from 2012-14 and served as the city’s first economic developer. She works as an entrepreneur and has taught leadership seminars at local universities.

    She declared her candidacy in late August and raised about $10,000 during the most recent fundraising quarter, she said — a paltry amount she attributed to halting her campaign during Hurricane Irma.

    Rodriguez Aguilera’s daughter is former Republican National Committee Hispanic outreach director Bettina Inclán Agen. Her son-in-law, Jarrod Agen, is Vice President Mike Pence’s deputy chief of staff.

    Miami attorney Rick Yabor, a frequent political commentator in Spanish-language media, said Friday that Rodriguez Aguilera’s account could hurt her congressional campaign. Miami-Dade Commissioner Bruno Barreiro and former school board member and Miami-Dade County mayoral candidate Raquel Regalado, both far better known than Rodriguez Aguilera, are also running in the Republican primary.

    ———-

    “Miami politician says aliens took her on a spaceship. Now she’s running for Congress.” by Alex Daugherty And Patricia Mazzei; Miami Herald; 10/16/2017

    “Rodriguez Aguilera’s daughter is former Republican National Committee Hispanic outreach director Bettina Inclán Agen. Her son-in-law, Jarrod Agen, is Vice President Mike Pence’s deputy chief of staff.”

    Three blond, big-bodied beings with blue eyes that clearly had a male and female gender:


    Three blond, big-bodied beings — two females, one male — visited her when she was 7 years old and have communicated telepathically with her several times in her life, she says. (Sen. Bill Nelson served as payload officer aboard the Space Shuttle Columbia in 1986. All seven people aboard were from Earth. As far as is known.)

    That’s definitely the Nordics, aliens ‘from the Pleiades’ who just happen to look like tall Scandinavians.

    And she didn’t just get abducted by them when she was seven but also communicated with them several times throughout her life. One wonders what cosmic wisdoms were passed along. Hmm….

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | October 23, 2017, 9:27 pm
  5. Here’s a recent update on the US military’s policies regarding UFO sightings by pilots: in response to a growing number of US Navy pilots who witness UFO sightings during their flights, the US Navy has finally formally drafted a protocol for pilots to report these sightings. Yep, there apparently wasn’t an actual formal system for Navy pilots to report UFOs before despite years of pilots making these anomalous sightings of objects that appeared to defy the known laws of physics until now:

    Politico

    U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs
    The service says it has also ‘provided a series of briefings by senior Naval Intelligence officials as well as aviators who reported hazards to aviation safety.’

    By BRYAN BENDER
    04/23/2019 06:06 PM EDT
    Updated 04/23/2019 08:14 PM EDT

    The U.S. Navy is drafting new guidelines for pilots and other personnel to report encounters with “unidentified aircraft,” a significant new step in creating a formal process to collect and analyze the unexplained sightings — and destigmatize them.

    The previously unreported move is in response to a series of sightings of unknown, highly advanced aircraft intruding on Navy strike groups and other sensitive military formations and facilities, the service says.

    “There have been a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated air space in recent years,” the Navy said in a statement in response to questions from POLITICO. “For safety and security concerns, the Navy and the [U.S. Air Force] takes these reports very seriously and investigates each and every report.

    “As part of this effort,” it added, “the Navy is updating and formalizing the process by which reports of any such suspected incursions can be made to the cognizant authorities. A new message to the fleet that will detail the steps for reporting is in draft.”

    To be clear, the Navy isn’t endorsing the idea that its sailors have encountered alien spacecraft. But it is acknowledging there have been enough strange aerial sightings by credible and highly trained military personnel that they need to be recorded in the official record and studied — rather than dismissed as some kooky phenomena from the realm of science-fiction.

    Chris Mellon, a former Pentagon intelligence official and ex-staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said establishing a more formal means of reporting what the military now calls “unexplained aerial phenomena” — rather than “unidentified flying objects” — would be a “sea change.”

    “Right now, we have situation in which UFOs and UAPs are treated as anomalies to be ignored rather than anomalies to be explored,” he said. “We have systems that exclude that information and dump it.”

    For example, Mellon said “in a lot of cases [military personnel] don’t know what to do with that information — like satellite data or a radar that sees something going Mach 3. They will dump [the data] because that is not a traditional aircraft or missile.”

    The development comes amid growing interest from members of Congress following revelations by POLITICO and the New York Times in late 2017 that the Pentagon established a dedicated office inside the Defense Intelligence Agency to study UAPs at the urging of several senators who secretly set aside appropriations for the effort.

    That office spent some $25 million conducting a series of technical studies and evaluating numerous unexplained incursions, including one that lasted several days involving the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group in 2004. In that case, Navy fighter jets were outmaneuvered by unidentified aircraft that flew in ways that appeared to defy the laws of known physics.

    Raytheon, a leading defense contractor, used the reports and official Defense Department video of the sightings off the coast of California to hail one of its radar systems for capturing the phenomena.

    The Pentagon’s UFO research office, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, was officially wound down in 2012 when the congressional earmark ran out.

    “In response to requests for information from Congressional members and staff, Navy officials have provided a series of briefings by senior Naval Intelligence officials as well as aviators who reported hazards to aviation safety,” the service said in its statement to POLITICO.

    The Navy declined to identify who has been briefed, nor would it provide more details on the guidelines for reporting that are being drafted for the fleet. The Air Force did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Advocates for treating such sightings as a potential national security threat have long criticized military leaders for giving the phenomenon relatively little attention and for encouraging a culture in which personnel feel that speaking up about it could hurt their career.

    Luis Elizondo, the former Pentagon official who ran the so-called AATIP office, complained after he retired from government service that the Pentagon’s approach to these unidentified aircraft has been far too blasé.

    “If you are in a busy airport and see something you are supposed to say something,” Elizondo said. “With our own military members it is kind of the opposite: ‘If you do see something, don’t say something.'”

    Elizondo will be featured in an upcoming documentary series about the Pentagon UFO research he oversaw. He said the six-part series will reveal more recent sightings of UAPs by dozens of military pilots.

    Both Elizondo and Mellon are involved with the To The Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, which supports research into explaining the technical advances these reported UAPs demonstrate.

    ———–

    “U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs” by BRYAN BENDER; Politico; 04/23/2019

    “To be clear, the Navy isn’t endorsing the idea that its sailors have encountered alien spacecraft. But it is acknowledging there have been enough strange aerial sightings by credible and highly trained military personnel that they need to be recorded in the official record and studied — rather than dismissed as some kooky phenomena from the realm of science-fiction.”

    So it appears that the US Navy was systematically dismissing UFO sightings from its own personnel and wasn’t even officially recording these sightings, let along studying them. And note how it wasn’t just pilots visually making these anomalous sightings while flying. Radar and satellite data would also find objects going at speeds like Mach 3 and these data was apparently systematically ignored:


    Chris Mellon, a former Pentagon intelligence official and ex-staffer on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said establishing a more formal means of reporting what the military now calls “unexplained aerial phenomena” — rather than “unidentified flying objects” — would be a “sea change.”

    “Right now, we have situation in which UFOs and UAPs are treated as anomalies to be ignored rather than anomalies to be explored,” he said. “We have systems that exclude that information and dump it.”

    For example, Mellon said “in a lot of cases [military personnel] don’t know what to do with that information — like satellite data or a radar that sees something going Mach 3. They will dump [the data] because that is not a traditional aircraft or missile.

    Now, this won’t be the first effort to formally study UFOs in the US military. Congress secretly set aside money that funded the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program inside the Defense Intelligence Agency. But that program, which was started in 2007, was wound down in 2012 after the congressional funding ran out:


    The development comes amid growing interest from members of Congress following revelations by POLITICO and the New York Times in late 2017 that the Pentagon established a dedicated office inside the Defense Intelligence Agency to study UAPs at the urging of several senators who secretly set aside appropriations for the effort.

    That office spent some $25 million conducting a series of technical studies and evaluating numerous unexplained incursions, including one that lasted several days involving the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group in 2004. In that case, Navy fighter jets were outmaneuvered by unidentified aircraft that flew in ways that appeared to defy the laws of known physics.

    Raytheon, a leading defense contractor, used the reports and official Defense Department video of the sightings off the coast of California to hail one of its radar systems for capturing the phenomena.

    The Pentagon’s UFO research office, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, was officially wound down in 2012 when the congressional earmark ran out.

    So that’s rather exciting. Especially for the pilots.

    But the UFO buffs probably shouldn’t get super excited about stunning new revelations. The Navy is planning on keeping this data private. Although, according to Luis Elizondo, an intelligence officer who ran the Pentagon’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, it’s still possible some unclassified information will be publicly released. And even if this data isn’t released to the public, it still might be made available to Congress:

    The Washington Post

    Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected

    An image from footage shot by the Navy that shows an encounter between U.S. fighter jets and “anomalous aerial vehicles” flying at 25,000 feet. The clip is featured in a video created by the organization To the Stars Academy. (To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science)

    By Paul Sonne
    May 1, 2019

    The U.S. Navy has drafted a procedure to investigate and catalogue reports of unidentified flying objects coming in from its pilots. But the service doesn’t expect to make the information public, citing privileged and classified reporting that is typically included in such files.

    Joe Gradisher, a spokesman for the office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, said in a statement that the Navy expects to keep the information it gathers private for a number of reasons.

    “Military aviation safety organizations always retain reporting of hazards to aviation as privileged information in order to preserve the free and honest prioritization and discussion of safety among aircrew,” Gradisher said. “Furthermore, any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information on military operations.”

    He added, “Therefore, no release of information to the general public is expected.”

    The Navy’s recent decision to draft formal guidelines for pilots to document encounters with unexplained aerial phenomena comes after the revelation in late 2017 that the Pentagon ran a secret “UFO” office that spent $22 million over five years to collect and analyze “anomalous aerospace threats.” Funding for the office, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or AATIP, officially ended in 2012, though operations continued.

    Among other things, the program resulted in the release of footage from the cockpit cameras of military aircraft, which appeared to document oval-shaped vessels that resemble flying Tic Tacs.

    Reports of curious sightings from military aircraft aren’t new. During World War II, Allied military pilots witnessed unexplained objects and fireballs that they dubbed “foo fighters”— a term that later inspired the name of the eponymous rock band. A number of official government investigations looked into such phenomena in the postwar period.

    Now, the Navy has agreed to a more formalized process for cataloguing and investigating reports from pilots, a decision welcomed by former U.S. officials who want the military to take the matter seriously and remove the stigma in the armed forces of reporting such incidents.

    Even though the Navy indicated it has no plans in the imminent future to release the data, unclassified portions of the information or broad overviews of the findings could come out, according to Luis Elizondo, an intelligence officer who ran AATIP before leaving the Pentagon.

    “If it remains strictly within classified channels, then the ‘right person’ may not actually get the information. The right person doesn’t necessarily mean a military leader. It can be a lawmaker. It can be a whole host of different individuals,” Elizondo said.

    For example, in the future, the Navy theoretically could release broad statistics about the number of sightings and the results of the follow-up investigations without disclosing any classified information. Even if the information isn’t made available to the public, it could be reported to Congress.

    Frustrated that a potential security threat wasn’t receiving the attention and funding he thought it deserved, Elizondo left the Pentagon in 2017 and joined a start-up that promotes UFO research for scientific and entertainment purposes. The organization is collaborating on a six-part History Channel series due out this month that will explore Elizondo’s work on the issue.

    In a conversation with The Washington Post, Elizondo praised the Navy for changing its policy and taking a public stance and credited lawmakers on Capitol Hill for beginning to take the matter seriously. He said he expects the effort to lead to more information gathering and sharing at the Pentagon and ultimately a better understanding of the “enigma” reported by military pilots.

    There is no agreed upon explanation for some of the sightings reported to AATIP.

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    “Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected” by Paul Sonne; The Washington Post; 05/01/2019

    ““Military aviation safety organizations always retain reporting of hazards to aviation as privileged information in order to preserve the free and honest prioritization and discussion of safety among aircrew,” Gradisher said. “Furthermore, any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information on military operations.”

    According to the Navy, any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information. Hence the lack of any expectations of releasing this to the public. But that doesn’t mean unclassified summaries can’t be release. Plus, Congress can see the classified information:


    Even though the Navy indicated it has no plans in the imminent future to release the data, unclassified portions of the information or broad overviews of the findings could come out, according to Luis Elizondo, an intelligence officer who ran AATIP before leaving the Pentagon.

    “If it remains strictly within classified channels, then the ‘right person’ may not actually get the information. The right person doesn’t necessarily mean a military leader. It can be a lawmaker. It can be a whole host of different individuals,” Elizondo said.

    For example, in the future, the Navy theoretically could release broad statistics about the number of sightings and the results of the follow-up investigations without disclosing any classified information. Even if the information isn’t made available to the public, it could be reported to Congress.

    So if there’s an unclassified summary released by the Navy keep an eye out for spooked members of Congress murmuring about exogenous threats.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | May 10, 2019, 1:48 pm

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