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FTR #668 Sedition!

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REALAUDIO NB: This RealAudio stream contains FTRs 668 and 669 in sequence. Each is a 30 minute segment.

The program begins with a statement by TV personality and martial artist Chuck Norris that comes very "Patriot" Chuck Norrisclose to a call for rebellion and/or secession by the state of Texas. Minnesota Congresswoman Michelle Bachman (R-MN) also has been talking “revolution” in an interview with Sean Hannity. Her rationale for such action is her contention that Obama is taking us down the road to “economic Marxism.” And this while Obama is being savaged as a “tool of Wall Street” by the left. Bachmann is also among those sponsoring an amendment to block something the Democrats haven’t proposed-the use of foreign currency as legal tender in the United States! Norris and Bachmann have company.

Texas Governor Rick Perry has garnered attention for his suggestion that Texans might want to secede from the U.S.

Norris’ musings about secession have been featured on the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens, an organization that bridges the gap between “acceptable” conservatives and overt fascist/white supremacist types.”

Furthering exploring the Lone Star State’s “farther shores of politics,” 9/11 “truth” activist Alex Jones also has featured Norris’ secession chatter on his website. Jones has also inveighed against a warning by a law-enforcement think tank that the current social conditions are lending impetus to dangerous right-wing paramilitary elements.

Concluding with Richard Poplawski (the alleged kill of three Pittsburgh police officers), the program notes his affiliation with white supremacist elements and his belief that America was controlled by “Jews.” He, too, was a devotee of Alex Jones.

Program Highlights Include: The danger of lumping all “conspiracy theories” together–an ideological stance that plays into the hands of fascist elements; discussion of the Sovereign Citizens Movement, a populist/fascist ideology that has helped spawn the so-called tax protest milieu and that advocates Identity Christianity.

1. The program begins with a statement by TV personality and martial artist Chuck Norris that comes very close to a call for rebellion and/or secession by the state of Texas. Note that the Aryan-Nations affiliated Alaskan Independence Party holds similar views. Alaska Governor Sarah Palin fronts for this organization. Mr. Emory has voiced his fears about the breakup of the United States in previous programs covering various secessionist movements championed by the UNPO.

” . . . Anyone who has been around Texas for any length of time knows exactly what we’d do if the going got rough in America. Let there be no doubt about that. As Sam Houston once said, ‘Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may.’

Just last Friday, the Alamo celebrated its 173rd commemoration, when on March 6, 1836, Texans under Col. William B. Travis were overcome by the Mexican army after a two-week siege at the Alamo in San Antonio. But they didn’t go down without a hell-of-a-fight, as those roughly 145 Texans fought to their dying breaths against more than 2,000 Mexican forces under Gen. Santa Anna. (Casualties in the battle were 189 Texans vs. about 1,600 Mexicans.) They lost that battle, but would provide the inspiration to win the war. Their fighting spirit rallied the new-found republic, and still does to this day. So when you think all is lost in America, remember the Alamo!

For those losing hope, and others wanting to rekindle the patriotic fires of early America, I encourage you to join Fox News’ Glenn Beck, me and millions of people across the country in the live telecast, ‘We Surround Them,’ on Friday afternoon (March 13 at 5 p.m. ET, 4 p.m. CT and 2 p.m. PST). Thousands of cell groups will be united around the country in solidarity over the concerns for our nation. You can host or attend a viewing party by going to Glenn’s website. My wife Gena and I will be hosting one from our Texas ranch, in which we’ve invited many family members, friends and law enforcement to join us. It’s our way of saying ‘We’re united, we’re tired of the corruption, and we’re not going to take it anymore!’

Again, Sam Houston put it well when he gave the marching orders, ‘We view ourselves on the eve of battle. We are nerved for the contest, and must conquer or perish. It is vain to look for present aid: None is at hand. We must now act or abandon all hope! Rally to the standard, and be no longer the scoff of mercenary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your children may bless their father’s name.'”

“I May Run for President of Texas” by Chuck Norris; worldnetdaily.com; 3/9/2009.

2. Minnesota Congresswoman Michelle Bachman (R-MN) also has been talking “revolution” in an interview with Sean Hannity. Her rationale for such a call is her contention that Obama is taking us down the road to “economic Marxism.” And this while Obama is being savaged as a “tool of Wall Street” by the left.

” Wow. Just plain wow. This past Wednesday, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) appeared on Sean Hannity’s radio show, and sharply reiterated her calls for revolution in America, warning against the imminent dangers of tyranny under Barack Obama:

‘We are headed down the lane of economic Marxism,’ said Bachmann. ‘More quickly, Sean, than anyone could have possibly imagined. It’s difficult for us to even keep up with it day to day.’ . . .”

“Bachmann Blasts Obama’s ‘Economic Marxism,’ Calls for ‘Orderly Revolution’ to Save Freedom” by Eric Kleefeld; talkingpointsmemo.com; 3/27/2009.

3. Bachmann is also among those sponsoring an amendment to block something the Democrats haven’t proposed–the use of foreign currency as legal tender in the United States! (Note that this article was not in the original program.)

“Here’s your daily dose of everyone’s favorite Republican House member, Michele Bachmann from Minnesota.

Bachmann has now picked up some new cosponsors in her efforts to amend the Constitution to forbid the use of a foreign/global money as the legal tender of the United States: Trent Franks (R-AZ), Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), and Kenny Marchant (R-TX). She now has a total of 34 cosponsors, in addition to herself as the primary sponsor.

Of course, there is no such threat to replace the dollar as America’s currency. Even if a global currency of some kind were adopted — and even that isn’t in any way a sure thing — it would be for international exchanges and reserves, not for domestic use.

Check out the full list of cosponsors, after the jump.

Todd Akin (R-MO)

Spencer Bachus (R-AL)

Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)

Judy Biggert (R-IL)

Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)

Paul Broun (R-GA)

Henry Brown (R-SC)

Dan Burton (R-IN)

Michael Conaway (R-TX)

John Culberson (R-TX)

Mary Fallin (R-OK)

John Fleming (R-LA)

Virginia Foxx (R-NC)

Trent Franks (R-AZ)

Phil Gingrey (R-GA)

Louie Gohmert (R-TX)

Jeb Hensarling (R-TX)

Peter Hoekstra (R-MI)

Darrell Issa (R-CA)

Walter Jones (R-NC)

Steve King (R-IA)

Mark Kirk (R-IL)

Doug Lamborn (R-CO)

Kenny Marchant (R-TX)

Tom McClintock (R-CA)

Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI)

Ron Paul (R-TX)

Joseph Pitts (R-PA)

Bill Posey (R-FL)

Tom Price (R-GA)

David Roe (R-TN)

John Shadegg (R-AZ)

Glenn Thompson (R-PA)

Zach Wamp (R-TN)”

“Bachmann Amendment Against non-Existent Plot to Replace Dollar Gaining Support” by Eric Kleefeld; talkingpointsmemo.com; 4/3/2009.

4. Another article not featured in the original broadcast highlights Texas Governor Rick Perry’s suggestion that Texans might want to secede from the U.S.

“In a state that once was its own nation, a Republican governor who talked about secession without completely dismissing the idea has Democratic lawmakers in an uproar.

Gov. Rick Perry, in comments following an anti-tax ‘tea party’ Wednesday, never did advocate Texas breaking away from the United States but suggested that Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to leave the union. That was enough to feed opinions for and against secession on Web sites, cable TV and talk radio across the nation.

At the Texas Capitol on Thursday, Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco, joined by several fellow Texas House Democrats, said some people associate talk of secession with racial division and the Civil War and that Perry should disavow any notion of seceding.

‘Talk of secession is an attack on our country. It can be nothing else. It is the ultimate anti-American statement,’ Dunnam said at a news conference.

State Sen. Rodney Ellis, a Houston Democrat, said that by not rejecting the possibility of secession out of hand, Perry ‘is taking a step down a very dangerous and divisive path encouraged by the fringe of Texas politics.’

The Democrats are proposing a House resolution expressing ‘complete and total disagreement with any fringe element advocating the ‘secession’ of Texas or any other state from our one and indivisible Union.’

Perry emphasized Thursday that he is not advocating secession but understands why Americans may have those feelings because of frustration with Washington, D.C. He said it’s fine to express the thought. He offered no apology and did not back away from his earlier comments. . . .”

“Democrats: Texas Governor Should Disavow Secession Talk” by Kelly Shannon [AP]; Yahoo News; 4/16/2009.

5. Norris’ musings about secession have been featured on the website of the Council of Conservative Citizens, an organization that bridges the gap between “acceptable” conservatives and overt fascist/white supremacist types.

Website for the Council of Conservative Citizens.

6.  Chuck Norris showed up on 9/11 “Truther” Alex Jones’s show to talk about his “I may run for President of Texas” statement.


7. On a related note, the show highlights another post of Alex Jones’s PrisonPlanet.com.  The residents of “Jonestown” are fretting about a newsletter issued by the “Missouri Information Analysis Center” (MIAC), which appears to be a law enforcement affiliated think tank. That organization issued a recent report on the growing threat of the militia movement that highlighted some of the movement’s different strains, including the “Sovereign Citizen” movement.  The last page features The Turner Diaries , along with two videos that are popular in right-wing conspiracy theory movements.  The two videos are “America: Freedom to Facism” and “Zeitgeist: The Movie”.  They’re both popular with the Alex Jones followers and so-called 9/11 “Truthers.” Both are, in essence, fascist. Containing elements of truth, they are mixed in with disinformation and it all comes back, of course, to the Jews.


8. Next, the program highlights four members of the “Sovereign Movement” were arrested for money laundering and unlicensed machine gun possession in Las Vegas.  The group is charged with laundering $1.3 million given to them by undercover FBI agents that they were told came from a bank fraud scheme. The Sovereign Movement is one of the anti-tax  groups that claims the federal government has no authority over them and wants to overthrow it.  It’s apparently tied to the white supremacist Christian Identity wing of the militia movement.  One of the articles about the arrest listed the ages for three of the members and they weren’t just a bunch of clueless angry youths (ages 46, 54, and 67).  One of the guys, Shawn Rice, describes himself as a rabbi dedicated to anti-government teachings.  Another one of the members, Jan Lindsey, is a retired FBI agent.  Lindsay and another member, Harold Call, are both leaders of something called the Nevada Lawmen Group for Public Awareness, which is affiliated with the Sovereign Movement. NOTE: the Sovereign Citizens Movement and other right/populist/fascist groups ultimately are working to undermine the republic itself.


9. The program concludes with a look at the slayer of three Pittsburgh policemen. Richard Poplawski was a devotee of populist/fascist conspiracy theories and an affiliate of the white supremacist Stormfront website. In this context, it is important to grasp that, although this type of ideology can be extremely destructive, the Southern Poverty Law Center critic who lumped Poplawski’s Nazified views in with all “conspiracy theories” unwittingly plays into the hands of the fascists.

When all “conspiracy theories” are lumped together, it demeans serious research and the fact that President Kennedy was killed as the result of a high-level conspiracy is lumped in with “International Jewish Banker” conspiracies. The average citizen can be left in a relativistic political universe, saying, in effect; “Well, if Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t kill President Kennedy, maybe the Holocaust didn’t happen either.” CORRECTION: Mr. Emory identified Stormfront director Don Black as the inventor of the “leaderless resistance” strategy. It was actually Louis Beam. Both are white supremacists and former lieutenants of former Klan leader David Duke.

” . . . ‘He was really into politics and really into the First and Second amendment. One thing he feared was he feared the gun ban because he thought that was going to take away peoples’ right to defend themselves. He never spoke of going out to murder or to kill,’ said Edward Perkovic, who described himself as Mr. Poplawski’s lifelong best friend.

Mr. Poplawski’s view of guns and personal freedom took a turn toward the fringes of American politics. With Mr. Perkovic, he appeared to share a belief that the government was controlled from unseen forces, that troops were being shipped home from the Mideast to police the citizenry here, and that Jews secretly ran the country.

‘We recently discovered that 30 states had declared sovereignty,’ said Mr. Perkovic, who lives in Lawrenceville. ‘One of his concerns was why were these major events in America not being reported to the public.’

Believing most media were covering up important events, Mr. Poplawski turned to a far-right conspiracy Web site run by Alex Jones, a self-described documentarian with roots going back to the extremist militia movement of the early 1990s.

Around the same time, he joined Florida-based Stormfront, which has long been a clearinghouse Web site for far-right groups. He posted photographs of his tattoo, an eagle spread across his chest.

‘I was considering gettin’ life runes on the outside of my calfs,’ he wrote. Life runes are a common symbol among white supremacists, notably followers of The National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group linked to an array of violent organizations.

‘For some time now there has been a pretty good connection between being sucked into this conspiracy world and propagating violence,’ said Heidi Beirich, director of research at the Southern Poverty Law Center and an expert on political extremists. She called Mr. Poplawski’s act, ‘a classic example of what happens when you start buying all this conspiracy stuff.’ . . .”

“Suspect in Officers’ Shooting Was into Conspiracy Theories” by Dennis B. Roddy; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette; 4/5/2009.


10 comments for “FTR #668 Sedition!”

  1. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-ron-pauls-views-coincide-with-ours-on-most-issues/

    Stormfront founder: Ron Paul’s views ‘coincide with ours’ on most issues

    By Eric W. Dolan
    Wednesday, December 28, 2011

    Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R) received an unwanted endorsement on Tuesday when Don Black, the founder of the white nationalist group Stormfront, told The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur that he supported Paul’s presidential candidacy.

    Paul has recently been plagued by racist, hate-filled newsletters that were published under his name. The newsletters were published about 20 years ago and contained a number of incendiary comments about African-Americans, gays and Israel. All of the newsletters featured his name, but Paul has said he did not edit or write the controversial language, and disavowed it.

    “He’s clearly not a white nationalist, he does not have the same worldview we do,” Black told Cenk. “But we agree with his stand on the issues, which we believe are heartfelt, coincide with ours. I might prefer that he understand the racial issues that we deal with a little more than he does.”

    “We believe that white people in this country and all European countries, Australia, Canada are facing a form of genocide through assimilation.”

    Posted by R. Wilson | December 28, 2011, 7:27 pm
  2. http://globalcomment.com/2012/palling-around-with-nazis-how-republican-rhetoric-obscures-ron-pauls-white-supremacist-base-and-undermines-democracy/

    Palling around with Nazis: How Republican rhetoric obscures Ron Paul’s white supremacist base and undermines democracy

    JANUARY 3, 2012

    Throughout the Obama presidency, members of the GOP have been quick to compare the President to Hitler. Many of the party’s current presidential hopefuls have engaged in this kind of inflammatory rhetoric. In 2009, Michele Bachman enthusiastically endorsed a fundraiser with Maria Anne Hirschmann, who has compared Obama’s policies to those that brought about the rise of the Third Reich. In 2010, Newt Gingrich described Democrats as a “secular-socialist machine” that posed as much of a “threat” to American democracy as the Nazis posed in Germany. He later backed down from the claim, but there it was, part and parcel of the GOP’s paranoia machine. Just yesterday, Rick Santorum defended a statement he made in December in an address to the Republican Jewish Coalition Candidates Forum. He’d alleged that Obama’s foreign policy amounted to World War II-style Nazi “appeasement.”

    Nazi paranoia has reached epic proportions among influential members of the GOP over the past few years. So, you’d think they’d be quick shut down actual Nazi sympathizing when it emerges within their ranks. But they’re doing quite the opposite. Rather than speaking out about Ron Paul’s extremism, they’ve mostly been criticizing him as a “moderate” because he’s against imperialistic war policies.

    Not one Republican candidate has mentioned this photograph, circulated via social media by an #occupy protest group last week:

    (continued at link)

    Posted by R. Wilson | January 7, 2012, 1:07 pm
  3. @R. Wilson: The one thing that scares me about Ron Paul, more than anything else, is the fact that he may choose Chuck Baldwin as his V.P. as he did in ’08…..on the other hand, Paul is likely to run as an Indie may very well split the GOP vote. If that happens, the Establishment would be likely to go into full freakout mode, I suspect, and then the real propaganda would start showing up. You ain’t seen nothing yet, I don’t think.

    Posted by Steven L. | January 7, 2012, 8:44 pm
  4. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/14/iowa-republican-says-government-illegitimate-declares-herself-u-s-senator/

    Iowa Republican declares herself Senator, announces that current government is illegitimate

    An Iowa woman who was running for a state Senate seat has dropped that bid after deciding the U.S. government is a sham, and has instead unilaterally declared herself a U.S. Senator from the Republic of Iowa in an alternative government, the Republic for the United States of America.

    As Jason Noble of the Des Moines Register first reported, the candidate, Randi Shannon, had been running for the state’s 34th Senate district. However, she recently came to believe that the real U.S. government was replaced with an illegal one after the Civil War so, rather than continue her state-level pursuit, she dropped that bid and named herself a Senator of the what she thinks is the true government.

    In a letter fittingly posted to her campaign’s Facebook page on July 4, Shannon wrote that the country was founded as the Republic for The United States for America in 1787, and that it remained as such until the 1860s, when it was abandoned during the Civil War. Once the war ended, she wrote, the government was replaced by the, “UNITED STATES CORPORATION,” [sic] which has endured to this day as the nation’s farcical governing body.

    In a statement riddled with curious capitalization meant to emphasize the government’s foibles, Shannon derides the federal government for, she claims, stomping out entrepreneurship, infringing on personal liberties, and just generally being an unconstitutional entity. Perhaps worst, she says, are the elected lawmakers who have perpetuated this system and in doing so have, “committed the most egregious acts against ‘We the People.’”

    “Therefore, in order to affect the most good on behalf of The People of Iowa’s 34th District and in keeping with my conscience, I have accepted the position of U.S. Senator in The Republic of The United States of America, where I may better serve You and All of The People of Iowa,” Shannon wrote. “I want you to know I have taken an Oath to Uphold, Support and Defend The Constitution of The United States of America. This I will do to the best of my ability, So Help Me God.”

    Shannon, who describes herself as a Ron Paul supporter, backs many of the same policy positions famously espoused by the Libertarian-leaning Texas congressman. She advocates eliminating the Department of Education (following its transfer to the Republic of the United States) and drastically cutting taxes while ending foreign occupations and stopping the Affordable Care Act. And, since she believes the government has been a false one for a century and a half, she considers all amendments to the Bill of Rights from the 14th on to be invalid.

    “Again, Remember, where the de jure Republic of The United States of America exists the de facto UNITED STATES CORPORATION, having no standing, must go away!,” Shannon wrote.

    Posted by R. Wilson | July 14, 2012, 8:52 pm
  5. And the hits keep coming:

    Rightwing Watch
    Klayman: ‘Rebellion’ Necessary to Stop ‘Obama’s Mission to Enslave the Nation’
    Submitted by Brian Tashman on Monday, 3/11/2013 10:45 am

    In whatever world Judicial Watch founder Larry Klayman inhabits, President Obama has “unleashed black helicopters in our major cities to intimidate people and set up committees to determine who in its estimation is a ‘subversive’ and may have to be eliminated.”

    Klayman, once again calling for armed rebellion, writes in WorldNetDaily that President Obama is trying to crush an “imminent rebellion by the informed masses” against his “mission to enslave the nation in his brand of Marxist ideology” by “removing the people’s Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

    He dubs Obama a “modern-day disciple” of King George III and laments that he won re-election by “pitting the poor and middle class against the so-called rich, black against white, Latino against Anglo, gay against straight, and Muslim against Jew and Christian.” He concludes that if “all non-violent means” to depose Obama are exhausted, conservatives must follow the example of the Founding Fathers and stage an armed revolt.

    The First Despot, King George III, raped the rich colonies with high taxes, ignored their grievances, subverted their legal system and as a final stroke seized and destroyed the colonists’ caches of guns and other means of self-defense when it became apparent that the citizens could stand no more tyranny from the Crown. Even worse, 236 years after the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776, triggering the first American Revolution, the modern-day disciple of the king, demagogue President Barack Hussein Obama, has onerously raised taxes, engaged in class warfare, pitting the poor and middle class against the so-called rich, black against white, Latino against Anglo, gay against straight, and Muslim against Jew and Christian, in order to win re-election.

    To insure that Obama’s mission to enslave the nation in his brand of Marxist ideology succeeds in the face of imminent rebellion by the informed masses, his government has armed itself to the teeth, unleashed black helicopters in our major cities to intimate the people and set up committees to determine who in its estimation is a “subversive” and may have to be eliminated with drone and other strikes on American citizens on U.S. soil. [See “Obama prepares to kill 2nd American Revolution”]. And, last but not least, to this end, Obama has also issued executive actions as the first step to removing the people’s Second Amendment right to bear arms to defend themselves against “his” government and its evil designs.

    With the exception of a few, like Sen. Rand Paul, no one in the Republican opposition has the will or guts to oppose Obama’s dictatorial quest to remove our freedoms and civil liberties and potentially assassinate those American citizens who resist his and the rest of the government establishment’s claim of total “sovereignty” over us.

    We the People, initially using all non-violent means, must ourselves rise up! But if in the end it means following the lead of our First Founding Father, Patrick Henry, we reserve our God-given rights to defend ourselves and to restore liberty to our shores.

    As in colonial times leading to the birth of a free country, we will never surrender! Instead, must be prepared to use all legally righteous means to restore the country to greatness!

    Give us liberty or give us death! God did not forsake our Founding Fathers, and He will not forsake us!

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | March 12, 2013, 8:50 am
  6. Some early info on the LAX shooter:

    Sources: Alleged LAX gunman had ‘new world order’ conspiracy theory tract

    By Pete Williams and Andrew Blankstein, NBC News, 11/1/2013

    The man who allegedly killed a TSA worker and wounded three others at Los Angeles International Airport on Friday had anti-government literature in his possession outlining an alleged conspiracy to create a single global government, law enforcement sources tell NBC News.

    The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the material recovered from Paul Anthony Ciancia, 23, after the shootout at LAX appeared to have been prepared by a group called “New World Order.” One source said it also expressed animus toward racial minorities.

    There is no record of a radical group by that name and the term “New World Order” is often used by conspiracy-minded groups and individuals to describe an alleged secret plot to establish an autonomous world government that would replace sovereign nations and put an end to international power struggles.

    According to ConspiracyWiki, an Internet site devoted to conspiracy theories, the doctrine was primarily limited to militant anti–government and radical fundamentalist Christian groups until the early 1990s, but has since been embraced by some left-wing groups.

    Very little was known about Cianci, who had lived in the Philadelphia area before moving to California.

    His brother told police in New Jersey he had received a text message from the suspect Friday morning saying he was thinking about taking his life.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | November 1, 2013, 7:01 pm
  7. If the GOP wins the Senate this November it’s pretty much a guarantee that the GOP base will absolutely demand that Congress attempt to impeach President Obama. But that would also be a guaranteed political disaster for GOP, especially if Hillary Clinton gets the Democrats’ nomination in 2016. Maybe there’s another way the GOP can satisfy that hunger for a big showy showdown with the president while avoiding a giant national reminder of the Clinton impeach debacle. Maybe…

    Boehner to sue Obama in executive authority dispute
    Susan Davis, USA TODAY 2:03 p.m. EDT June 25, 2014

    WASHINGTON — House Speaker John Boehner confirmed Wednesday that he intends to sue President Obama in the long-running dispute between the administration and congressional Republicans over the scope of the administration’s executive authority to enforce laws.

    “I am,” Boehner told reporters, when asked if he was going to initiate a lawsuit. “The Constitution makes it clear that a president’s job is to faithfully execute the laws. In my view, the president has not faithfully executed the laws.”

    Boehner added: “Congress has its job to do and so does the president. And when there’s conflicts like this between the legislative branch and the administrative branch, it’s in my view our responsibility to stand up for this institution in which we serve.”

    Boehner can use his authority as speaker to convene the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group, a five-member legal panel appointed by GOP and Democratic House leaders, but weighted towards the majority. BLAG has authority to direct the U.S. House Office of General Counsel, to participate in litigation and represent the U.S. House itself.

    The impending lawsuit has the potential to test the constitutional balance between the legislative and executive branches. Republicans have long maintained that the White House has overstepped its legal authority by subverting laws approved by Congress on a number of matters.

    It is unclear which executive actions Boehner would challenge, but in recent years Republicans have protested executive actions halting the deportations of immigrants illegally residing in the United States, delaying enactment of certain provisions of the Affordable Care Act and raising the minimum wage for federal contractors, as well as executive actions to expand gay rights and close the gender pay gap.

    Democrats also say the lawsuit is a political maneuver to appease the conservative base, which has called for impeachment proceedings against Obama for any number of offenses. Boehner dismissed that Wednesday, and said the lawsuit was not a step in that direction.

    “This is not about impeachment,” he said. “This is about his faithfully executing the laws of our country.”

    A lot of questions are going to be raised by the lawsuit. Some of them were already worth asking.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | June 25, 2014, 11:01 am
  8. Here’s another reminder of Larry “let’s have a coup!” Klayman’s status as the unofficial id of the Republican Party:

    TPM Livewire
    Missouri Official Meant ‘No Ill Intent’ When She Called For Military Coup

    By Caitlin MacNeal
    Published October 14, 2014, 2:28 PM EDT

    This post has been updated.

    A Republican Missouri official said that she meant “no ill intent” toward President Obama when she asked on her Facebook page if the U.S. military was able to oust the president.

    In a Facebook post last week, Jefferson County Recorder of Deeds Debbie Dunnegan referred to Obama as “our domestic enemy,” according to a screenshot published by Progress Missouri.

    “I have a question for all my friends who have served or are currently serving in our military … having not put on a uniform nor taken any type military oath, there has to be something that I am just not aware of. But I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the constitution gives you the authority,” she wrote in the post. “What am I missing? Thank you for your bravery and may God keep you safe.”

    Dunnegan, who is up for re-election in November, said that her question was taken out of context, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    “Something innocent and simple got twisted into a disaster because it’s an election,” she said. “I meant no ill intent toward the president. I meant no ill intent toward anybody.”

    Her Facebook account is private, but Dunnegan said she has not deleted the post and doesn’t seem worried how it might impact her re-election bid.

    “I think it could hurt it as much as it could help it,” she said.

    Ok, at least this is just a County Recorder of Deeds calling for a coup. It’s not like those were the words of a sitting Congressman:

    Raw Story
    GOP congressman: ‘I’m not talking about guns necessarily’ to fight a Bible-based revolution
    David Edwards
    14 Oct 2014

    North Carolina Rep. Walter Jones (R) said recently that it was going to take a “revolution” that did not “necessarily” need to involve guns so that the United States would be in line with the values of the Constitution and the Bible.

    In an appearance on Laura Ingraham’s radio show late last week, Jones said that he was upset with the Republican Party for allowing President Barack Obama to spend money on sending troops to help with the Ebola crisis in Africa.

    “I want people to understand that the people must take back the government because this is a prime example of the continued spending, and my party, the Republican Party, is doing absolutely nothing about it,” he explained. “I am just sick and tired of seeing what is happening to this country, and it’s not acceptable.”

    Ingraham pointed out that Democrats and Republicans agreed on many things, including that Congress did not need to authorize military actions in Iraq.

    “They agree on Common Core, they agree on open borders, they agree on immigration amnesty,” she noted.

    Jones said that as a “Ron Paul-type Republican” he believed that saving the country was going to take leaders who “understand that we have a bible and we have a constitution. And if we do not follow the Constitution then we will continue to go down this road of collapsing.”

    “That’s what we need to do is to have a revolution in this country, and not talking about gun necessarily,” he added. “I’m talking about a revolution of people getting out of their offices and getting into the streets letting their voices be heard.”

    “Greed has destroyed America,” Jones opined. “The Bible talks about greed, and when this country started moving jobs out of the manufacturing industry of America to other countries so they could pay people 70 cents an hour instead of $18 an hour, this was the beginning of exactly what you just said. And if we don’t take back this country then I don’t know what our grandchildren are going to have to look forward to.”.

    Yes, Walter Jones, the same guy that said the loss of tax-exempt status for churches that endorse political candidates is like communism, doesn’t necessarily want to see an armed revolution. That makes it all better, although it would be interesting to learn more about what kind Biblically-based America Jones and his fellow Dominionists might have in mind.

    And given the frustration Jones feels over the GOP’s willingness to allow the Obama to send troops to help Ebola-hit countries (because letting those countries collapse and spread Ebola across the world is both prudent and the Christian thing to do) it would be be interesting to hear more about his views on the GOP’s approach to turning 70 cents an hour overseas jobs into $18 an hour US jobs. Really really really interesting.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | October 14, 2014, 7:08 pm
  9. Alicublog brings us preview of 2016 via a recent post by Roger L. Simon over at the right-wing Pajamas Media, where Simon asks “will there be civil war if Hillary Clinton becomes president?” and concludes that, yes, it is very possible, since a mass tax-avoidance protest could easily happen because everyone hates Hillary, which could lead to a social-meltdown, terrorism, and eventually civil war:



    Posted by roy edroso
    Thursday, September 03, 2015 at 1:29 PM

    We’ve seen the other Republican candidates, fading in the face of Trump, going “Look at me! I can be crazy too!” What might be the journalistic equivalent?

    It would seem a tad overheated to speculate that Hillary Clinton being elected president could trigger an American civil war. Unfortunately, it’s not. If not an outright war, massive civil disobedience would likely be in the offing.

    If our chief executive is assumed to be dishonest by the majority of the population — a solid plurality and possibly even a majority believing her actually to be criminal — before she takes office, what would be the natural outgrowth to society, if not a breakdown of one sort or another?…

    Just kidding — while I’m sure PJ Media could use the attention, this is not really new for Roger L. Simon, he’s been totally mental for years. Anyway: Simon thinks “the chances of Hillary’s nomination are decreasing on a near-daily basis,” so I guess she would have to win on a third-party ticket, or maybe just ride into the Oval Office singing Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen, and when that happens —

    Almost no one who voted against her would be giving her the benefit of the doubt. Why should they? They would be looking for ways to reject her presidency.

    Not like now!

    Tax avoidance would be endemic. Why give money to a country where the president abjures the rule of law? (Yes, that’s already happened but this would, after a political campaign, be a force multiplier.)

    Maybe these patriotic tax cheats will be supported by Charles Murray’s Honky Freedom Riders. Then Simon dons sackcloth and sayeth the sooth:

    With the national treasury under threat, all sorts of results could occur — a stock market meltdown beyond what we are experiencing now, full scale depression like the 1930s, urban riots that make Baltimore and Ferguson look like Kiddyland, nonstop demonstrations of all sorts from all sides, millions of people opting out á la John Galt (most without knowing who he is), an American decline beyond recognition (if you think things are bad now, you haven’t seen anything), little border control with giant Islamic spillover from Europe, terror attacks routine, and, yes, remote a possibility as it may be, a violent civil war between between sides in a hugely split society.

    The Go Galt schtick is the tip-off: This is everything these guys predicted for the Obama Administration, stuffed into one big bag of crazy for the next potential Democratic President. They did this when de Blasio got elected, too, and you could conceivably convince the rubes that the mayor really is turning New York into a gritty urban drama out of the 70s because most of them don’t live there; getting them to believe the election of Hillary Clinton will lead to armageddon, as opposed to the sylvan glade that awaits under President Cruz (or the woman Simon apparently favors, Carly Fiorina, who wants to bring the skills that nearly destroyed Hewlett Packard to national governance), may take a bit more doing. Perhaps Simon would like to revisit during Halloween? I hear haunted houses can make a good bit of money, and they don’t have to be convincing.

    Wow, so Roger Simon is basically predicting that President Hillary Clinton is going to inspire some sort of Tea Party/Maidan revolution, but unlike the current anti-Tax Tea Party, this one is going to be so massive that the economy will collapse (so presumably the billionaires and corporations all stop paying their taxes and ‘Go Galt’), terrorism will spread, and a violent civil war might erupt. And this will all be Hillary’s fault because of Benghazi or email servers or something.

    So will President Hillary Clinton be the catalyst that finally fulfills decades-old far-right violent insurrection fantasies? We’ll find out. She’s got competition.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | September 4, 2015, 1:52 pm
  10. President Obama sent long-awaited plans for the closure of the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay to congress today. And while it’s unlikely that Obama will be able to get congress to agree to his plans, he can still use an executive order to shut it down on his own. That is, unless the military just refuses to close it down or something crazy like that happens. Sure, that’s an extremely unlikely and insane scenario, but that didn’t stop Congressman Darrell Issa from openly encouraging the US military’s leaders to do exactly that. And he did it using a rather unexpected analogy: If Obama shuts down Gitmo, it’s like when Andrew Jackson forced the Cherokee to walk the Trail of Tears:

    Talking Points Memo Livewire
    Issa Compares Obama’s ‘Unlawful’ Gitmo Closure Plan To Trail Of Tears (VIDEO)

    By Caitlin Cruz
    Published February 23, 2016, 10:23 AM EST

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) on Tuesday compared a pending announcement from the White House on a plan to close Guantanamo Bay to the Trail of Tears.

    Issa said on Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” that it was unlikely Congress would be able to contest the closure in a timely fashion.

    “Our process is to go to the court. The court is likely not to rule quickly,” he said. “It’s an old example, but Andy Jackson, the founder of the Democratic Party, in the Trail of Tears defied the Supreme Court and marched Native Americans to their deaths.”

    The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation in the 1830s of the Cherokee Nation to Oklahoma under former President Andrew Jackson’s Indian Removal Act. The Cherokee Nation says roughly 4,000 people died.

    Issa said it was up to U.S. military leaders to decide whether to follow Obama’s plan, which he said was unlawful.

    “Are they going to obey an unlawful order, an unlawful order to move people from Guantanamo, an unlawful order to close the base?” he said.

    The California congressman added that the deaths of thousands of Cherokees occurred because the military followed a President’s order rather than the law. He further suggested he’d support military leaders who refused to implement Obama’s plan.

    “Remember the Trail of Tears was only possible, the murder of those Native Americans was only possible, because the military obeyed an order in violation of the U.S. Supreme Court,” he added. “So do I believe that the military may push back on the President if he’s given an unlawful order? Actually, I do. I can see flag officers resigning rather than obeying a clearly unlawful order.”

    “The California congressman added that the deaths of thousands of Cherokees occurred because the military followed a President’s order rather than the law. He further suggested he’d support military leaders who refused to implement Obama’s plan.
    Well, at least the Oath Keepers will be pleased to hear one of the most powerful figures in congress openly support the idea of the military refusing to follow the commander-in-chief’s orders. Alarmingly, based on recent polls on the possible US public support for a military coup, it may not just be the Oath Keepers nodding in agreement. And, yes, it would be hilariously ironic nodding in many cases. But still alarming.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 23, 2016, 6:46 pm

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