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FTR #839 Interview (#2) with Peter Levenda about “The Hitler Legacy”

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This program was recorded in one, 60-minute segment

Introduction: The second of several interviews with Peter Levenda, this program sets forth the historical and ideological foundation for the postwar perpetuation and operation of Nazism–“The Hitler Legacy.”

The thesis of this remarkable book might be summed up in an excerpt from page 307:

. . . . After World War II, the American people thought that Nazi Germany had been defeated and the “war” was over; this book demonstrates that it never was. Instead, we were told that Communism was the new threat and we had to pull out all the stops to prevent a Communist takeover of the country. And so our military and our intelligence agencies collaborated with surviving Nazis to go after Communists. We refused to pursue worldwide right wing terror groups and assassins. After all, they were killing Communists and leftists; they were doing us a service. Like Hoover and the Mafia, the CIA refused to believe a Nazi Underground existed even as they collaborated with it (via the Gehlen Organization and the like).

The whole thrust of this book has been that American leaders in business, finance, media, and politics collaborated with Nazis before, during, and after the war. The West’s share in the ‘blame” for Al-Qaeda, et al, goes back a long way–before Eisenhower–to a cabal of extremist US Army generals and emigre Eastern Europeans who didn’t have much of a problem with Nazism since they feared Communism more. The Church, the Tibetans, the Japanese, the Germans, the Croatians–and the Americans–all felt that Communism was the greater danger, long before WWII. We enlisted war criminals to fight on our side. We appropriated the idea of global jihad from the Nazis and their WW I predecessors. We amped up their plan to weaponize religion and convinced Muslims, who hated each other, to band together to fight Communism. And when Afghanistan was liberated and the Soviet Union was defeated?

September 11, 2001. . . .

Peter calls the first section of his book “Origins of 21st Century Conflict.” It begins with events that occurred during, and in the immediate aftermath of, “The Great War.”

Heinrich Himmler and Grand Mufti Husseini

Prominent in Peter’s analysis of the “Origins of 21st Century Conflict” is the genesis of “global jihadism.” Ironically, what is perceived in parts of the Muslim world as an anti-imperial doctine had its genesis as a vehicle for colonial domination.

Seeking proxy warriors on behalf of the Kaiser, archaelogist Max von Oppenheim convinced Sultan Mehmet the V of the Ottoman Empire to declare a global jihad against England, France and Russia in an unsuccessful attempt to oust those nations from their colonial holdings in the Muslim world.

Britain, too, sought to employ proxy warriors against the Ottoman Empire, utilizing T.E. Lawrence’s Arab Legion and King Faisal. After the defeat of the Ottoman armies, the British violated their pledge of support for Arab self-governance, opting instead for the Sykes-Picot treaty dividing the Middle East between France and England.

During the First World War, Britain also signed the Balfour Delcaration, expressing support for a Jewish homeland in the Middle East, in exchange for Jewish support in the war. After the conclusion of hostilities, the British Empire violated its agreement with the Zionists as well.

The Grand Mufti Inspects a Balkan Muslim Waffen SS Unit

It was in British-controlled Palestine that we see the rise of a very important figure in the history of the Middle East, the grown of jihadism and the genesis of the collaboration between fascism and Islamism–Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Seeking to mozilize the feeling of betrayal on the part of many Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere in the colonial world, al-Husseini ultimately became a general in the Waffen SS and the first leader of the Palestinian National movement.

Next, we highlight Peter’s analysis of what happened when the Nazis came to power, putting NSDAP ideologues in positions of influence around the world–diplomats, military attaches, spies etc. Networking with like minded interests in other countries, they worked with elements in the U.S. discussed in FTR #838. Further illuminating some points of discussion featured in our first interview, the program sets forth information about the Nazi-allied Ukrainian fascist milieu active in the U.S. prior to, and during, World War II.

We then digress, to present an overview of the Ford Motor Company milieu and international fascism, from German-American Bund leader Fritz Kuhn to Michael Vernon Townley, a perpetrator of the assassination of Orlando Letelier, son of a Ford Motor Company employee in Chile, member of the Chilean Nazi party and one of the principals in the design and operation of Colonia Dignidad. We summarize Colonia Dignidad and Peter’s brave, frightening visit to that Nazi bastion discussed in his book Unholy Alliance.

Peter visited this Nazi outpost in Chile in 1979. Part of what we call “The Underground Reich,” it served as a torture center for the Pinchet regime in Chile. Financed by the Nazi diaspora, in was an epicenter for “Operation Condor,”–an international assassination consortium of Latin American dictatorships assisted by elements of U.S. intelligence. (The assassination of Orlando Letelier was the best known of these killings.)

Peter visited “The Colony,” as it was known, against the advice of the local constabulary. Staffed by Germans, it served as a torture center for the Pinochet dictatorship. Michael Vernon Townley, an electronics engineer, who created remote control torture centers, which permitted multiple suspects to be “interrogated” simultaneously, by remote control.

“The Colony” was funded by the worldwide Nazi money machine and was revealed to have developed weapons of mass destruction, including sarin gas. It remains in existence.

After being able to leave Colonia Dignidad, Peter was put on a plane back to the United States, lost his job with the Bendix corporation and was repeatedly subjected to anti-Semitic death threats.

Program Highlights Include:

  •  Discussion of the Balfour Agreement.
  • England and France’s betrayal of their promises to both the Arabs and the Jews. Sykes-Picot agreement and the replacement of the Hashemites as guardians of Mecca and Medina.
  • Similarity in the point of view of Post World War I Germans and Post World War I Arabs: Belief in betrayal by a “Global Conspiracy.” How this dovetails with similar global conspiratorial paranoia on the part of U.S. and European elites. Jews and both “Bolsheviks” and colonizers.
  • Review of the basics of “the Pelypenko affair.”
    John Koos and his work for Henry Ford and networking with Father Coughlin and Third Reich intelligence.

1. Continuing discussion introduced in the previous program, we further develop Peter’s analysis of the origins of global jihad.

Ironically, what is perceived in parts of the Muslim world as an anti-imperial doctrine had its genesis as a vehicle for colonial domination.

Seeking proxy warriors on behalf of the Kaiser, archaeologist Max von Oppenheim convinced Sultan Mehmet the V of the Ottoman Empire to declare a global jihad against England, France and Russia in an unsuccessful attempt to oust those nations from their colonial holdings in the Muslim world.

Peter sums up a profound irony in this gambit on page 67:

. . . . In sum, global jihad was originally conceived as a tool for Western, European colonialists to (ironically) manipulate anti-colonial sentiments by elevating them to the status of divine ordinance, taking what was a political and economic situation–colonialism–and interpreting it within a purely religious context. . . .

Britain, too, sought to employ proxy warriors against the Ottoman Empire, utilizing T.E. Lawrence’s Arab Legion and King Faisal. After the defeat of the Ottoman armies, the British violated their pledge of support for Arab self-governance, opting instead for the Sykes-Picot treaty dividing the Middle East between France and England.

During the First World War, Britain also signed the Balfour Delcaration, expressing support for a Jewish homeland in the Middle East, in exchange for Jewish support in the war. After the conclusion of hostilities, the British Empire violated its agreement with the Zionists as well.

It was in British-controlled Palestine that we see the rise of a very important figure in the history of the Middle East, the grown of jihadism and the genesis of the collaboration between fascism and islamism–Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Seeking to mobilize the feeling of betrayal on the part of many Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere in the colonial world, al-Husseini ultimately became a general in the Waffen SS and the first leader of the Palestinian National movement.

Key elements of this part of the analysis include:

  • The Balfour Agreement.
  • England and France’s betrayal of their promises to both the Arabs and the Jews. Sykes-Picot agreement and the replacement of the Hashemites as guardians of Mecca and Medina.
  • Similarity in the point of view of Post World War I Germans and Post World War I Arabs: Belief in betrayal by a “Global Conspiracy.” How this dovetails with similar global conspiratorial paranoia on the part of U.S. and European elites. Jews and both “Bolsheviks” and colonizers.

The essence of the world view that developed on “the Arab street” and that informed those sympathetic to the Grand Mufti and the Muslim Brotherhood is summed up by Peter on page 73 (note that von Oppenheim and Ludendorf formalized the jihadist tactic of targeting civilians and innocents as part of this jihadist operational paradigm):

. . . . A new narrative was about to be born, and it became the Grand Unified Theory of Islamist terrorism; anti-Zionism became equivalent to anti-Semitism; the Jews had created Bolshevism as a mechanism for dividing and conquering all other races; they were aided and abetted in this program by the European powers–the “Crusaders”–who cooperated with the Jews in order to enslave the Muslims; and that the only way to defend Arab, i.e. Muslim, territories against the invaders was to proclaim a jihad. Since the Arabs did not have the same access to money and military equipment as the Crusaders and the Jews, the jihad would have to be waged “by any means necessary.” This included the regimen suggested by Oppenheim of individual assassinations, independent bands of jihadists, and guerrilla warfare that included targeting civilian populations. Once Jews were identified as the enemy of Islam, the designation of enemy combatant could be extended to include not only able-bodied men who carried arms and fought in pitched battles, but anyone who was Jewish: women women, children, and all those previously considered non-combatants. . . .

. . . . This new paradigm would become enshrined in the concept of “total war,” a phrase coined by former German General Erich Ludendorf (1865-1937) to designate a state in which all the resources of a nation had to be mobilized in the war effort. When two such states are at war, then it is inevitable that civilian populations on both sides would be slaughtered in an effort of each side to deprive the other of the raw material of conflict–to destroy logistical support, industry, agriculture and most of all every human who could grow food, make ammunition, or fire a weapon. . . . .

2. Next, we highlight Peter’s analysis of what happened when the Nazis came to power, putting NSDAP ideologues in positions of influence around the world–diplomats, military attaches, spies etc.

Networking with like minded interests in other countries, they worked with elements in the U.S. discussed in FTR #838. Further illuminating some points of discussion featured in our first interview, the program sets forth information about the Nazi-allied Ukrainian fascist milieu active in the U.S. prior to, and during, World War II. Topics highlighted include:

  • Review of the basics of “the Pelypenko affair.”
  • John Koos and his work for Henry Ford and networking with Father Coughlin and Third Reich intelligence: “. . . . Now Coughlin really opened up. He revealed to the astonished priest [Pelypenko] that he was a coordinating link with all subversive groups in the county; that he was connected to the whole White Russian Nazi groups under [Nazi spy Count Anastase] Vonsiatsky, that he was in direct touch with Ukrainian terrorist groups in Detroit, and that he was linked to John Koos, the Nazi Ukrainian working for Henry Ford. (From American Swastika by Charles Higham, p. 129.) John Koos was the leader in America of the Ukrainian Hetman Organization (UHO). This was  Nazi group, based in Berlin, composed of ethnic anti-Communists and engaged in terrorist activities against the Soviets, as well as against pro-Communist or anti-Nazi individuals and groups everywhere else. Koos worked out of the Ford Motor Company factories in Detroit where he arranged for the hiring of thousands of Ukrainians to work the plants and to form  fifth column working directly for Henry Ford. The position of Koos was so secure in the eyes of the Reich that Hitler himself sent the message that Koos would be named Minister of Internal Affairs in Ukraine once it had been liberated by the Nazis. Koos received a medal awarded by Alfred Rosenberg, the Nazi ideologist mentioned above. . . .” (The Hitler Legacy, pp. 102-103.) We highlight this, in part, to illustrate the depth and breadth of the Ukrainian Nazi/fascist milieu that has gained power in Ukraine following the Maidan coup.

3. We digress, slightly, to present a brief overview of the Ford Motor Company milieu and international fascism, from German-American Bund leader Fritz Kuhn to Michael Vernon Townley, a perpetrator of the assassination of Orlando Letelier, son of a Ford Motor Company employee in Chile, member of the Chilean Nazi party and one of the principals in the design and operation of Colonia Dignidad. We briefly digress to summarize Colonia Dignidad and Peter’s brave, frightening visit to that Nazi bastion discussed in his book Unholy Alliance.

Peter visited “The Colony,” as it was known, against the advice of the local constabulary. Staffed by Germans, it served as a torture center for the Pinochet dictatorship. Michael Vernon Townley, an electronics engineer, who created remote control torture centers, which permitted multiple suspects to be “interrogated” simultaneously, by remote control.

After being able to leave Colonia Dignidad, Peter was put on a plane back to the United States, lost his job with the Bendix corporation and was repeatedly subjected to anti-Semitic death threats.

 

Discussion

3 comments for “FTR #839 Interview (#2) with Peter Levenda about “The Hitler Legacy””

  1. Great program! Ordered my copy of the book today. Really looking forward to reading it. Thanks

    Posted by GK | March 16, 2015, 7:20 pm
  2. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/world/americas/villa-baviera-chile-reinvents-itself-for-tourists.html?ribbon-ad-idx=6&rref=world/americas

    Chilean Community, Once a Site of Torture, Reinvents Itself for Tourists

    Villa Baviera Journal

    By PASCALE BONNEFOY
    NOV. 5, 2015

    A Picturesque Destination With a Grisly Past

    VILLA BAVIERA, Chile — Claudio Pacheco took his family on an outing recently to Villa Baviera, a picturesque farming community tucked away in the foothills of the Andes. They ate a variety of German dishes and won a live deer in a raffle.

    And like other visitors, they spent much of the day wandering some of Villa Baviera’s 35,000 acres of forests, farmland and rolling hills — neatly trimmed lands once used to torture, kill and bury political prisoners, amass weapons and terrorize a community.

    Villa Baviera, once home to a deeply secretive German sect whose former leader was convicted of sexually abusing young boys and was under investigation for collaborating with the regime of Gen. Augusto Pinochet, has reinvented itself as a tourist attraction in a bid to stay alive after its leader fled the country and the colony fell into financial disarray.

    The community, which at its peak in the 1960s and ’70s had about 300 members, has turned former workshops where devotees labored without pay into a hotel. The communal dining hall, one of the few places where parents in the colony could glimpse the children who had been stripped away from them, is now a public restaurant. It celebrates Oktoberfest, and a small store sells souvenirs and homemade pastries and sausages.

    A tourism complex has a small lagoon with paddle boats, a pool, hot tubs and bicycles for rent. Services include wedding ceremonies and so-called historical tours through the former leader’s bedroom, where he abused boys, and the hospital, where followers were drugged and tortured.

    “I come here a lot; I love the Germans,” said Mr. Pacheco, a 64-year-old farmer from a nearby town. “I buy plants and eat at their restaurant. Although I had heard rumors, I learned what had happened here only a few years ago.”

    There has long been interest in Chile about what happened under the watchtowers of Villa Baviera while the sect’s leader, Paul Schäfer, ruled the community. Disturbing details of what went on here have trickled out since the 1960s, and continue to do so. In October, a classified police intelligence report detailing what detectives found during raids on the colony more than a decade ago was released and published by a human rights group.

    Mr. Schäfer, an evangelical German preacher, fled to Chile in 1961 to evade prosecution over charges related to sodomizing children. Hundreds of his followers came with him, and they created a colony here, formerly called Colonia Dignidad, that would build a self-sustainable agricultural community and provide charity to the local population.

    But inside these grounds, Mr. Schäfer exerted complete control over the lives, bodies and minds of his followers, who worked under slavelike conditions and were subdued through manipulation, beatings, electroshocks and drugs, according to the testimonies of colony members.

    Couples were not allowed to live together, and children were separated from their parents and raised in communal care. Only members of the leadership had access to television or any media. Barbed wire and guard towers sealed the residents in, and hidden cameras and microphones recorded them at all hours.

    General Pinochet’s secret intelligence agency brought dissidents to the colony to be tortured in the 1970s, according to Chile’s truth commission. Some were executed and secretly buried here, and, according to court testimony, their bodies were later exhumed, incinerated and dumped into a river.

    The general and other officers also spent weekend getaways at Colonia Dignidad.

    Over the decades, various Chilean governments gave the colony tax breaks for being a charitable organization and turned a blind eye when escapees reported abuses.

    Photo: What was once a communal dining hall for members of a German sect has been turned into a public restaurant in Villa Baviera, Chile.

    But the colony’s leaders eventually lost their protection. Mr. Schäfer fled Chile in 1997 and went into hiding in Argentina, wanted for crimes related to child abuse, tax fraud, weapons production, forced labor and collaboration in the torture and disappearance of prisoners.

    He was captured in 2005 and died in a maximum-security prison in Santiago in 2010 while serving a 20-year sentence for sexually abusing minors. Most members of his inner circle were imprisoned three years later.

    After his death, the community voted: Would they bury him in their cemetery? They decided not to. The man they had worshiped had stolen their lives.

    Today, Villa Baviera is a shadow of what it was. Its economic strength is gone, and so is half its population. Most young adults left for Germany or other parts of Chile. The restaurant, hotel and farmland rely on workers from nearby towns.

    “When Schäfer’s dictatorship ended, we fell into chaos,” said Thomas Schnellenkamp, 46, a son of a jailed former leader. “We learned about what had happened here, people started blaming each other and no one trusted anyone anymore. There was a lot of frustration, and many left.”

    But it was also an opportunity for change, as some members of the younger generation left for a university education and the few who returned, including Mr. Schnellenkamp, took the reins of the sect’s corporate holding.

    The community that remains is struggling to stay afloat in the face of huge debt, because of an aging population, subsidized housing and services, poor investments and — in a significant change from the past — the need to pay workers. A poultry farm that produces 32,000 eggs a day is its major source of income. The community now hopes that tourism will pay off.

    In addition to exploring hiking trails in pristine woods and enjoying romantic moments by reservoirs, tourists can see — just doors down from the hotel’s guest rooms — the sleeping quarters of armed guards with dogs and a communications center, outfitted with an emergency fire pole, that controlled all movement inside the colony.

    Two old potato warehouses also hide secrets: In one, investigators discovered a large cache of weapons in 2005, while the other was used in the 1970s to torture political prisoners of the Pinochet dictatorship.

    Photo: An excavation site, one of several, in Villa Baviera. Investigators have dug up areas in search of mass graves, documents and the remains of vehicles belonging to people who disappeared during the regime of Gen. Augusto Pinochet.

    Colony members wrestle with being regarded by outsiders as victimizers, when they were victims themselves. The second-generation leaders stress that they are not responsible for their parents’ crimes, but to many Chileans, they still represent the oppressive sect into which they were born.

    Within the community, there is a tug of war between appeasing older residents, many of whom continue to resist the changes, and forging a new future and assimilating into Chilean society.

    Some accuse the former leaders in prison of maintaining power.

    “They exert a moral influence over the community and their children who run it,” said Winfried Hempel, who fled the sect in 1997 when she was 20. “They maintain a psychological siege on people there.”

    But even for tourists, it is impossible to ignore Villa Baviera’s dark past. Along the winding roads, where bright yellow fields of rapeseed contrast with the green spring crops of wheat and oat, are huge holes in the ground, excavations where last November investigators searched for evidence of criminal activity. Climbing the Doradillo hill, one can see two smaller holes where dissidents were believed to have been buried in the 1970s.

    One of those victims may have been Claudio Escanilla, a 17-year-old student from the nearby city of Parral who disappeared in Colonia Dignidad.

    “I hope they find a button, a tooth, anything,” said his sister, María Cristina Escanilla, who along with a group of activists and victims recently held a memorial ceremony at the colony.

    Ms. Escanilla also questioned the colony’s new industry. “How can they have tourism where so many have been killed?” she asked.

    Although a few colony leaders are trying to set up a museum to honor the victims of Mr. Schäfer and General Pinochet, human rights groups have requested that certain places in Villa Baviera be preserved as memorials, and they continue to hold protests demanding answers.

    “We’ve told the families of the disappeared that we suffer for their loss, and we’ve let them come in to hold their ceremonies,” said Dorotea Baar, one of the sect’s original members. “But we don’t know anything, and we are victims, too.”

    A version of this article appears in print on November 6, 2015, on page A9 of the New York edition with the headline: Along Picturesque Chilean Trails, Reminders of a Dark Past

    Posted by newsgrabber | November 8, 2015, 2:54 pm
  3. For more on Operation Condor read “Predatory States: Operation Condor and Covert War in Latin America” By J. Patrice McSherry
    the definitive account of the horrors of that era. She aslo connects it GLADIO and the Nazi underground. Michael Townley figures prominently in It. Sarin in small doses can be used to induce untraceable heart attacks by the way.
    Although Condor was Suppossedly named for the national bird of Chile It was probably named after the Nazi Condor Legion from the spanish civil war.
    Check out my review of her book
    http://anti-imperialist-u.blogspot.com/2015/10/operation-condor.html

    Posted by Hugo Turner | June 13, 2016, 10:36 am

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