- Spitfire List - http://spitfirelist.com -

FTR #845 Interview (#8) with Peter Levenda about “The Hitler Legacy”

Dave Emory’s entire life­time of work is avail­able on a flash dri­ve that can be obtained here. [1] The new dri­ve is a 32-giga­byte dri­ve that is cur­rent as of the pro­grams and arti­cles post­ed by 12/19/2014. The new dri­ve (avail­able for a tax-deductible con­tri­bu­tion of $65.00 or more) con­tains FTR #827 [2].  (The pre­vi­ous flash dri­ve was cur­rent through the end of May of 2012 and con­tained FTR #748 [3].)

You can sub­scribe to e‑mail alerts from Spitfirelist.com HERE [4]

You can sub­scribe to RSS feed from Spitfirelist.com HERE [5].

You can sub­scribe to the com­ments made on pro­grams and posts–an excel­lent source of infor­ma­tion in, and of, itself HERE [6].

Lis­ten: MP3  This pro­gram was record­ed in one, 60-minute seg­ment [7].

[8]Intro­duc­tion: The eighth inter­view with Peter Lev­en­da [9], this pro­gram sets forth the his­tor­i­cal and ide­o­log­i­cal foun­da­tion [10] for the post­war per­pet­u­a­tion and oper­a­tion of Nazism–“The Hitler Lega­cy.” [11] Mr. Emory views this book as one of the most impor­tant polit­i­cal vol­umes ever writ­ten. Lis­ten­ers are emphat­i­cal­ly encour­aged to pur­chase it, read it and tell oth­ers about it.

The the­sis of this remark­able book might be summed up in an excerpt from page 307:

. . . . After World War II, the Amer­i­can peo­ple thought that Nazi Ger­many had been defeat­ed and the “war” was over; this book demon­strates that it nev­er was. Instead, we were told that Com­mu­nism was the new threat and we had to pull out all the stops to pre­vent a Com­mu­nist takeover of the coun­try. And so our mil­i­tary and our intel­li­gence agen­cies col­lab­o­rat­ed with sur­viv­ing Nazis to go after Com­mu­nists. We refused to pur­sue world­wide right wing ter­ror groups and assas­sins. After all, they were killing Com­mu­nists and left­ists; they were doing us a ser­vice. Like Hoover and the Mafia, the CIA refused to believe a Nazi Under­ground exist­ed even as they col­lab­o­rat­ed with it (via the Gehlen Orga­ni­za­tion and the like).

The whole thrust of this book has been that Amer­i­can lead­ers in busi­ness, finance, media, and pol­i­tics col­lab­o­rat­ed with Nazis before, dur­ing, and after the war. The West­’s share in the ‘blame” for Al-Qae­da, et al, goes back a long way–before Eisenhower–to a cabal of extrem­ist US Army gen­er­als and emi­gre East­ern Euro­peans who did­n’t have much of a prob­lem with Nazism since they feared Com­mu­nism more. The Church, the Tibetans, the Japan­ese, the Ger­mans, the Croatians–and the Americans–all felt that Com­mu­nism was the greater dan­ger, long before WWII. We enlist­ed war crim­i­nals to fight on our side. We appro­pri­at­ed the idea of glob­al jihad from the Nazis and their WW I pre­de­ces­sors. We amped up their plan to weaponize reli­gion and con­vinced Mus­lims, who hat­ed each oth­er, to band togeth­er to fight Com­mu­nism. And when Afghanistan was lib­er­at­ed and the Sovi­et Union was defeat­ed?

Sep­tem­ber 11, 2001. . . .

This inter­view picks up where FTR #844 [12] left off. Ini­tial­ly seen by the West and post­war Nazi ele­ments osten­si­bly alligned with it as an Islamist geopo­lit­i­cal bul­wark against Com­mu­nism, the Sukarno regime in Indone­sia even­tu­al­ly was seen as sub­ver­sive, due to Sukarno’s aggres­sive pur­suit of “Non-Aligned” sta­tus and lead­er­ship in the Third World nation­al com­mu­ni­ty.

As not­ed in FTR #844 [12], one of the alleged par­tic­i­pants in the unsuc­cess­ful 1958 attempt to over­throw Sukarno was Lee Har­vey Oswald. The dis­cus­sion high­lights some of Lee Har­vey Oswald’s appar­ent Nazi con­nec­tions, includ­ing direct links to the 544 Camp Street/531 Lafayette Place address that housed the Guy Ban­is­ter detec­tive out­fit.

Accord­ing to his sec­re­tary, Ban­is­ter was also a mem­ber of the Amer­i­can Nazi Par­ty. Oswald’s address book also con­tained the name of Hen­ry Warn­er Kloepfer, a promi­nent eugeni­cist linked to the Clay Shaw milieu.

Peter also notes that Sichere­its­di­enst agent H. Kei­th Thomp­son was the press agent for Mar­guerite Oswald, Oswald’s moth­er.

After review­ing the sem­i­nal work of Ster­ling and Peg­gy Sea­grave on the Japan­ese Gold­en Lily pro­gram, Peter dis­cuss­es Indone­sia and the out­growths of Axis war loot secret­ed in that coun­try.

Against the back­ground [12] of Indone­sia being a loca­tion of buried Gold­en Lily trea­sure, the pro­gram dis­cuss­es Sukarno’s “Rev­o­lu­tion­ary Fund” and the evi­den­tiary trib­u­taries run­ning into, and from, that enti­ty. In addi­tion to Gold­en Lily trea­sure, Sukarno appears to have had access to wealth made avail­able by for­mer Third Reich finance min­is­ter Hjal­mar Schacht, who saw Indone­sia as the key­stone of an Islamist geopo­lit­i­cal bar­ri­er against the spread of com­mu­nism in Asia.

The Rev­o­lu­tion­ary Fund is the back­ground for a remark­able and open-end­ed inves­ti­ga­tion into a num­ber of enig­mat­ic per­son­al­i­ties and their pos­si­ble role in the Under­ground Reich’s pres­ence in Indone­sia

Pro­gram High­lights Include: 

1. After the over­throw of Sukarno and the incor­po­ra­tion of Indone­sia into the U.S. sphere of influ­ence, an inter­est­ing devel­op­ment con­cerned the appoint­ment of Dr. Hilmar Bassler as Ger­man ambas­sador to Indone­sia.

The Hitler Lega­cy by Peter Lev­en­da; IBIS Press [HC]; Copy­right 2014 by Peter Lev­en­da; ISBN 978–0‑89254–210‑9; pp. 211–212. [11]

. . . . Once that was accom­plished and the dust set­tled, in 1968 the West Ger­man gov­ern­ment sent Dr. Hilmar Bassler as its ambas­sador to Jakar­ta. Basssler–an exceed­ing­ly dic­ta­to­r­i­al and unpop­u­lar ambas­sador whose intro­duc­tion to the Indone­sians had been his offi­cial car run­ning over and killing a small child–had been a mem­ber of the Gestapo and the SD (Sichere­its­di­enst, the Nazi secret ser­vice) dur­ing the war. Bassler had been in charge of East Asian pro­pa­gan­da for Ribben­trop’s For­eign Office. (In that capac­i­ty he knew Hewel per­son­al­ly, since Hewel had excel­lent fist-hand knowl­edge of the region. Bassler report­ed direct­ly to Ribben­trop.)

. . . . Buried deep with­in a US mil­i­tary file on the Viet­nam War, we find Hilmar Bassler ref­er­enced with­in the con­text of mil­i­tary oper­a­tions involv­ing the “strate­gic ham­let pro­gram” and US-FRG (Fed­er­al Repub­lic of Ger­many, i.e. West Ger­many) rela­tions. It would seem from this spare list­ing that Bassler–at that time not yet Ger­man ambas­sador to Indonesia–was either brief­ing, or being briefed, on rela­tions with the US in the con­text of the Viet­nam War. . . .

2. As not­ed in FTR #844 [12], one of the alleged par­tic­i­pants in the unsuc­cess­ful 1958 attempt to over­throw Sukarno was Lee Har­vey Oswald. The dis­cus­sion high­lights some of Lee Har­vey Oswald’s appar­ent Nazi con­nec­tions, includ­ing direct links to the 544 Camp Street/531 Lafayette Place address that housed the Guy Ban­is­ter detec­tive out­fit.

Accord­ing to his sec­re­tary, Ban­is­ter was also a mem­ber of the Amer­i­can Nazi Par­ty. Oswald’s address book also con­tained the name of Hen­ry Warn­er Kloepfer, a promi­nent eugeni­cist linked to the Clay Shaw milieu.

Sichere­its­di­enst agent H. Kei­th Thomp­son was the press agent for Mar­guerite Oswald, Oswald’s moth­er.

The Hitler Lega­cy by Peter Lev­en­da; IBIS Press [HC]; Copy­right 2014 by Peter Lev­en­da; ISBN 978–0‑89254–210‑9; pp. 321–324. [11]

One of the curi­ous aspects of the entire JFK assas­si­na­tion con­tro­ver­sy is the pres­ence in Lee Har­vey Oswald’s address book of sev­er­al ref­er­ences to Amer­i­can Nazis as well as some rudi­men­ta­ry vocab­u­lary in Ger­man. . . .

. . . . On anoth­er page is the entry that has con­spir­a­cy enthu­si­asts most inter­est­ed. It is the address of the Amer­i­can Nazi Par­ty in Hol­lis, Queens, New York and the name of Dan Bur­ros (1937–1965) who was the aide to Par­ty founder George Lin­coln Rock­well. . . .

. . . . See­ing the address of the Amer­i­can Nazi Par­ty as well as the name of Dan Bur­ros in Oswald’s address book was some­thing of a shock. How much more so to learn that Oswald’s moth­er was being rep­re­sent­ed by none oth­er than H. Kei­th Thomp­son.

Thomp­son (b. 1922) is a well-con­nect­ed and well-placed fig­ure in Nazi cir­cles. Born in New Jer­sey he nev­er­the­less became a mem­ber of the SD (Sicher­heits­di­enst) in 1941 due to his sup­port of the Ger­man-Amer­i­can Bund and Amer­i­ca First. The list of his con­tacts in the Amer­i­can, Latin Amer­i­can and Euro­pean Right is exten­sive, from fas­cist the­o­reti­cian Fran­cis Park­er Yock­ey to George Sylvester Viereck (a col­league of Aleis­ter Crow­ley dur­ing the First World War when Crow­ley was involved in spy­ing on the Ger­mans) to Otto Sko­rzeny, Hans-Ulrich Rudel, SS Gen­er­al Remer, Cuba’s Pres­i­dent Batista, Nazi Ger­many’s “Last Pres­i­dent’ Admi­ral Donitz, and even James Madole of the Nation­al Renais­sance Par­ty whom Thomp­son inves­ti­gat­ed on behalf of ODESSA to deter­mine whether or not the orga­ni­za­tion was reli­able.

Thomp­son was reg­is­tered as an agent of Otto Remer’s Social­ist Reich Par­ty, and was also an agent for Johann von Leer­s’s Der Weg at the time the peri­od­i­cal was being pub­lished by Leers in Argenti­na. He was also involved in pro­vid­ing weapons to Batista, and arrang­ing fund­ing for var­i­ous extreme-right caus­es. His con­tacts in ODESSA were so exten­sive that there exists a sub­stan­tial FBI file on him.

There­fore to find him rep­re­sent­ing Mar­guerite Oswald–the attempt­ed assas­s­in’s mother–was a lit­tle star­tling, to say the least. When asked by a researcher what he knew of the Kennedy assas­si­na­tion, Thomp­son actu­al­ly plead­ed the 5th amend­ment and would not com­ment. . . .

. . . . Addi­tion­al­ly, we have the tes­ti­mo­ny of Del­phine Roberts, who worked in the office of for­mer FBI agent Guy Ban­is­ter in New Orleans (the office asso­ci­at­ed with Oswald and his pho­ny Fair Play for Cuba oper­a­tion). A white suprema­cist and anti-Semi­te her­self, she knew Ban­is­ter well, and claimed that he was a mem­ber of the Amer­i­can Nazi Par­ty and got their mate­r­i­al through the mail. In fact, accord­ing to a sworn state­ment dat­ed Feb­ru­ary 20, 1968 before the New Orleans Dis­trict Attor­ney’s office by for­mer Ban­is­ter inves­ti­ga­tor Jack S. Mar­tin, Ban­is­ter even arranged bail mon­ey for George Lin­coln Rock­well when the lat­ter was arrest­ed for pick­et­ing the movie Exo­dus. Thus he was clos­er to Rock­well than we might have imag­ined. Did Oswald sim­ply pick up this infor­ma­tion around the office?

Even more sug­ges­tive is anoth­er name found in the Oswald address book, this time of Hen­ry Warn­er Kloepfer. Kloepfer (1913–1982) was an impor­tant eugeni­cist and mem­ber of var­i­ous soci­eties devot­ed to genet­ics and a reg­u­lar con­trib­u­tor to their pub­li­ca­tions. His wife Ruth admit­ted she knew the Oswalds and that she also knew Clay Shaw. In fact, in 1963 the Kloepfers were liv­ing in an apart­ment build­ing in New Orleans owned by Clay Shaw. In the 1950’s Kloepfer made sev­er­al trips to Cuba and lat­er to Mex­i­co City, and his daugh­ter vis­it­ed Moscow in 1963. . . . .

3. H. Kei­th Thomp­son has also chan­neled mon­ey to Pat Buchanan’s polit­i­cal cam­paigns. Buchanan was Ronald Rea­gan’s [13] White House Com­mu­ni­ca­tions Direc­tor. John O. Koehler [14]–the man ini­tial­ly named as his replacement–resigned after it was dis­closed that he had been in the Hitler Youth.

 The Hitler Lega­cy by Peter Lev­en­da; IBIS Press [HC]; Copy­right 2014 by Peter Lev­en­da; ISBN 978–0‑89254–210‑9; p. 42. [11]

. . . . Pat Buchanan has a his­to­ry of sup­port­ing extreme right indi­vid­u­als and groups, and the feel­ing has been mutu­al. H. Kei­th Thompson–an Amer­i­can mem­ber of the Sicher­heits­di­enst (the intel­li­gence branch of the SS) and a man who swore a loy­al­ty oath to Hitler–contributed gen­er­ous­ly to Buchanan’s polit­i­cal cam­paigns. Buchanan him­self revealed that it was he who con­vinced then-Pres­i­dent Rea­gan to lay a wreathe at the SS ceme­tery in Bit­burg, Ger­many “because they were vic­tims, too.” . . . .

4. Next, Peter briefly recaps the remark­able research of the Sea­graves, who pub­lished Gold War­riors. FTR #‘s 427 [15]428 [16]446 [17]451 [18]501 [19]509 [20]688 [21]689 [22] deal with the Sea­graves’ sem­i­nal analy­sis of the Gold­en Lily pro­gram suc­cess­ful­ly imple­ment­ed by the Japan­ese to loot Asia.

5. Exem­pli­fy­ing the fate of peo­ple who lacked the con­nec­tions to nego­ti­ate one of the gold cer­tifi­cates grow­ing out of the caches of stolen World War II wealth was Tom­my Lee Buck­ley.

 The Hitler Lega­cy by Peter Lev­en­da; IBIS Press [HC]; Copy­right 2014 by Peter Lev­en­da; ISBN 978–0‑89254–210‑9; pp. 290–291. [11]

. . . .  Anoth­er man who was not so lucky was Tom­my Lee Buck­ley of Ari­zona, who took it upon him­self to try to get the Damanik gold cer­tifi­cates authen­ti­cat­ed and nego­ti­at­ed. To help finance his twen­ty-year mis­sion he pub­lished a newslet­ter doc­u­ment­ing his progress and promised his sub­scribers a per­cent­age of the award if, and when, he was suc­cess­ful. It is impor­tant to know that he pre­sent­ed one of these cer­tifi­cates to the Fed­er­al Reserve Bank in Dal­las in 1991; in oth­er words, he was not attempt­ing to defraud any­one, but was approach­ing the Fed to deter­mine whether or not the cer­tifi­cate was gen­uine. He was arrest­ed by the Secret Ser­vice at that time but soon released. He claimed that the cer­tifi­cates in his pos­ses­sion were worth tril­lions of US dol­lars, and that some had been made out to such world lead­ers as Sad­dam Hus­sein. The mis­spellings in the names of the lead­ers were tak­en as evi­dence that Buck­ley had forged the doc­u­ments him­self, even though the rest of the cer­tifi­cates were pris­tine.

For some rea­son his twen­ty-year attempt to have the cer­tifi­cates authenticated–and rais­ing mon­ey from newslet­ter sub­scribers  to help him in this project–was con­sid­ered a fed­er­al crime, and he was tried and con­vict­ed. He nev­er went to prison, how­ev­er, because he com­mit­ted sui­cide before sen­tenc­ing. That was in June of 2011, at the same time that Soeryo Goer­it­no was active­ly seek­ing access to the Poch doc­u­ments. . . . .

6.  Against the back­ground [12] of Indone­sia being a loca­tion of buried Gold­en Lily trea­sure, the pro­gram dis­cuss­es Sukarno’s “Rev­o­lu­tion­ary Fund” and the evi­den­tiary trib­u­taries run­ning into and from that enti­ty. In addi­tion to Gold­en Lily trea­sure, Sukarno appears to have had access to wealth made avail­able by for­mer Third Reich finance min­is­ter Hjal­mar Schacht, who saw Indone­sia as the key­stone of an Islamist geopo­lit­i­cal bar­ri­er against the spread of com­mu­nism in Asia.

The Rev­o­lu­tion­ary Fund is the back­ground for a remark­able and open-end­ed inves­ti­ga­tion into a num­ber of enig­mat­ic per­son­al­i­ties and their pos­si­ble role in the Under­ground Reich’s pres­ence in Indone­sia: