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Austerity as a Vehicle for Breaking Up Nations

Her­bert Schweiger: SS vet­eran and sup­porter of South Tyrol Independence

COMMENT: Over the years, we have cov­ered the Hapsburg/Thyssen UNPO and its cham­pi­oning of eth­nic minori­ties as a vehi­cle for break­ing up large nations into smaller, more pli­able states. Using the human suf­fer­ing and social dis­lo­ca­tion brought about by its “aus­ter­ity” pro­gram to frag­ment large nations, Ger­many is actively sup­port­ing the seces­sion of Cat­alo­nia from Spain and, in coop­er­a­tion its Aus­trian part­ner, the South Tyrol from Italy.

The Aus­trian drive for the inde­pen­dence of South Tyrol is dri­ven by the “Free­dom Party,” for­merly headed by Jorg Haider. That party was founded after the Sec­ond World War to allow Third Reich vet­er­ans to par­tic­i­pate in Aus­trian politics.

Man­i­fest­ing what, for lack of a bet­ter term, might be called “eth­nic impe­ri­al­ism,” Ger­many is using far-right, neo-Nazi ele­ments as foot sol­diers to assist the ver­triebene groups in pro­mot­ing the seces­sion of German-speaking minori­ties in Poland and other parts of East­ern Europe.

Tar­get­ing China, Ger­many con­tin­ues its equiv­o­cal sup­port for indi­vid­u­als and eth­nic groups seek­ing to frag­ment that nation.  As we have seen in past dis­cus­sion, the United States is also tar­geted for Balka­niza­tion and subversion. 

When we first pre­sented our view that the U.S. was tar­geted for frag­men­ta­tion, the response was deri­sive and alto­gether unkind. With a num­ber of states float­ing seces­sion­ist peti­tions and with right-wing politi­cos advo­cat­ing the frag­men­ta­tion of the Union in the wake of the 2012 elec­tions, those crit­ics might help them­selves to gen­er­ous slice of hum­ble pie.

If the eco­nomic sit­u­a­tion here wors­ens sig­nif­i­cantly and the cen­trifu­gal polit­i­cal forces gain eco­nomic and/or para­mil­i­tary strength, the seces­sion­ist move­ment may well grow.

This topic is com­plex and we have pre­sented  it at length in the past. Listeners/readers who wish to sup­ple­ment their under­stand­ing should exam­ine the past broad­casts and posts on the sub­ject. Of par­tic­u­lar sig­nif­i­cance is the Hapsburg/Thyssen connection–a direct trib­u­tary lead­ing to the Under­ground Reich.

Past broad­casts ana­lyz­ing this topic include: FTR #‘s 550, 615,  616, 627, 635 & 636, 652, 668, 676.

Be sure to keep abreast of the impor­tant infor­ma­tion feed­ing along the bot­tom of the front page of this web­site, fea­tur­ing Ger­man For­eign Pol­icy, Ger­many Watch and The Global Mus­lim Broth­er­hood Daily Report

 

“Cri­sis Prof­i­teers”; german-foreign-policy.com; 11/27/2012.

EXCERPT: Despite his recent elec­toral set­back, the secessionist-minded prime min­is­ter of Cat­alo­nia is keep­ing Europe’s debate on the Berlin-supported seces­sion­ist move­ments alive. In Cat­alo­nia, whose inten­sive efforts to secede from Spain has recently been sup­ported by Ger­many, mainly those forces, which had been even more adamant in the strug­gle for Catalonia’s seces­sion, have ben­e­fit­ted from the prime minister’s unex­pected set­back. At the same time, seces­sion­ist forces in other Euro­pean nations have received a boost — for exam­ple in the German-speaking regions of Italy, where bud­get cuts, imposed by the Ger­man aus­ter­ity dic­tate for com­bat­ing the cri­sis, have esca­lated the con­flict between South Tyrol and Rome. The prin­ci­pal par­ties in South Tyrol have now gained Aus­tria as its “pro­tec­tive power,” thereby remov­ing the con­flict from Italy’s hands. Efforts to con­vince Vienna to grant Aus­trian pass­ports to German-speaking North Ital­ians, along­side clearly seces­sion­ist demands are being inten­si­fied. Ini­tial tar­get dates for seces­sion are already being pronounced.

Major­ity in Favor of Secession

A con­tin­u­a­tion of the debate over Catalonia’s seces­sion from Spain seems appar­ent in the after­math of the recent regional elec­tions. Even though the party of Prime Min­is­ter Artur Mas — with its pre­cise sched­ule for seces­sion — has won the elec­tions, albeit while suf­fer­ing a loss of votes — some observers attribute this loss to its strin­gent aus­ter­ity course, to com­bat the Euro cri­sis. Accord­ingly, the lost votes did not go to his con­ser­v­a­tive anti-secessionist oppo­nent of the Par­tido Pop­u­lar, but rather to the left-wing Esquerra Repub­li­cana de Catalunya, (Repub­li­can Left of Cat­alo­nia) which is strug­gling even more adamantly for seces­sion from Spain. The next regional par­lia­ment, there­fore, will have a clear seces­sion­ist major­ity. Ger­many has recently been sup­port­ing Catalonia’s seces­sion­ist efforts, which are ori­ented on the notion that Cat­alo­nia — the rich­est region of the coun­try — would not have entered the cri­sis, if it would not have to share its wealth, via the cen­tral government’s redis­tri­b­u­tion with Spain’s poorer areas. (german-foreign-policy.com reported.[1])

“Pro­tec­tive Power” Austria

While Cata­lan sep­a­ratism is grab­bing atten­tion through­out Europe, South Tyrolean seces­sion­ist efforts are also mak­ing big­ger waves. Once more, the Ger­man aus­ter­ity dic­tate to counter the Euro cri­sis is the direct cause. Rome is obliged to exe­cute dras­tic bud­get cuts, as demanded by Berlin, which effect the finan­cial mar­gin of maneu­ver for the Bolzano Alto Adige (“South Tyrol”) province. The can­cel­la­tion of resources ear­marked for South Tyrol has pro­voked protests. The ques­tion of whether Aus­tria can inter­vene in Rome on behalf of South Tyrol, is again being raised in this con­text. Aus­tria pre­sumes the “pro­tec­tive power” func­tion for the German-speaking pop­u­la­tion of North­ern Italy. “We are speak­ing here about Ital­ian domes­tic prob­lems, there is no need for Vienna’s competence,“[2] admon­ished Ital­ian Prime Min­is­ter, Mario Monti, in late Octo­ber. His obser­va­tion har­vested vehe­ment protest in South Tyrol and Aus­tria. “On the ques­tion of South Tyrol” thun­dered Austria’s for­mer National Coun­cil Pres­i­dent, Andreas Khol (ÖVP), Monti must “be urgently given tutoring.“[3] In Bolzano, the rul­ing South Tyrolean People’s Party (SVP) has announced it would inter­vene both in Rome and Vienna — Austria’s func­tion as “pro­tec­tive power” is not an issue. It has even been sug­gested that North Ital­ian pub­lic squares be named after Aus­tria — as “clear evi­dence of the ties.“[4]

Ambas­sador Summoned

This month Vienna reacted. First, the Aus­trian gov­ern­ment sum­moned Italy’s ambas­sador to the for­eign min­istry to protest Monti’s state­ment. Last Fri­day, the National Coun­cil gave an audi­ence to a del­e­ga­tion from the South Tyrolean par­lia­ment in Vienna, which com­plained “about the pres­sure” exerted “from the Ital­ian cen­tral gov­ern­ment” on South Tyrol. An SVP par­lia­men­tar­ian com­plained that “in its aus­ter­ity reg­u­la­tions,” the Ital­ian gov­ern­ment “was ignor­ing the auton­omy statutes” and infring­ing on “South Tyrolean com­pe­tence.” It is fur­ther­more intend­ing “to reform Italy’s con­sti­tu­tion to make it even more cen­tral­ist.” To which the pres­i­dent of Austria’s National Coun­cil replied that Vienna, under no cir­cum­stances, would alter its pre­vail­ing polit­i­cal stand­point. It will “main­tain its pro­tec­tive func­tion for South Tyrol.“[5]

Aus­tri­ans Abroad

A par­lia­men­tar­ian from the “South Tyrolean Free­dom” party, which cam­paigns for the seces­sion of this North Ital­ian province under the motto “South Tyrol is not Italy!” was also par­tic­i­pat­ing in last Friday’s meet­ing in Vienna and reported on “the aspi­ra­tion of many South Tyroleans” to “attain Aus­trian cit­i­zen­ship.” “This would facil­i­tate Austria’s exer­cis­ing its pro­tec­tive func­tion for South Tyrol, because Aus­tria would then be pro­tect­ing not only a minor­ity in the neigh­bor­ing coun­try, but its own cit­i­zens.” Accord­ing to a report, an Aus­trian state sec­re­tary explic­itly replied, empha­siz­ing that “grant­ing South Tyroleans Aus­trian cit­i­zen­ship would lead to no bilat­eral prob­lems,” because “Italy has made no objec­tions” — “and has granted cit­i­zen­ship to Ital­ians liv­ing abroad.“[6] This refers to descen­dents of the so-called Ital­ians abroad, liv­ing in regions of Slove­nia or Croa­tia, which had once been Ital­ian ter­ri­tory, a prac­tice, also applied by the Fed­eral Repub­lic of Ger­many to “Ger­mans Abroad.” In fact, the nego­ti­a­tions on grant­ing Aus­trian cit­i­zen­ship to the German-speaking pop­u­la­tion of South Tyrol are mak­ing head­way. The prin­ci­ple hur­dles seem to have been mastered.

Free State South Tyrol

Whereas Bolzano’s rul­ing South Tyrolean People’s Party (SVP) con­tin­ues to abstain from openly call­ing for seces­sion from Italy, and right-wing extrem­ist forces, such as the South Tyrolean Free­dom party, have had their eye on being annexed by Aus­tria for a long time, the North Ital­ian “the Lib­er­als,” the sis­ter party of Austria’s Free­dom Party (FPÖ), is now call­ing for found­ing a “Free State South Tyrol.” Accord­ing to their plans, prepa­ra­tions for a “ref­er­en­dum on whether South Tyrol should take recourse to its right of self-determination,” should be initiated. . . .

“Evi­dence of Ger­man Pres­ence”; german-foreign-policy.com; 11/23/2012.

EXCERPT: German right-wing extrem­ists are polit­i­cally exploit­ing gov­ern­ment funded cul­tural events for the German-speaking minor­ity in Poland. Accord­ing to reports, mem­bers of the “Sile­sian Youth” recently estab­lished con­tacts in neigh­bor­ing Poland dur­ing this year’s “Cul­tural Fes­ti­val of the Ger­man Minor­ity” in Wro­claw. The “Sile­sian Youth” have been clas­si­fied as right-wing extrem­ist. Sev­eral of its lead­ing mem­bers had been active mem­bers in cur­rently banned neo-Nazi orga­ni­za­tions. Another asso­ci­a­tion of Ger­man right-wing extrem­ists also called for par­tic­i­pa­tion at the fes­ti­val. Ear­lier, “Sile­sian Youth” activists marched in a demon­stra­tion in Katow­ice demand­ing “auton­omy for Upper Sile­sia.” The Saxon regional sec­tion claims to be secretly tak­ing care of for­mer Ger­man ceme­ter­ies (“Evi­dence of Ger­man Pres­ence in Sile­sia”) as well as sys­tem­at­i­cally expand­ing its rela­tions to the German-speaking minor­ity — in coop­er­a­tion with a “relief orga­ni­za­tion” under the direc­tion of a for­mer activist of the neo-Nazi NPD.

Ger­man Culture

Activists of the “Sile­sian Youth” par­tic­i­pated in this year’s “Cul­tural Fes­ti­val of the Ger­man Minor­ity” held Sep­tem­ber 29, in Wro­claw, and accord­ing to reports, used the oppor­tu­nity to estab­lish new con­tacts to Poland’s German-speaking minor­ity. The fes­ti­val has been tak­ing place every third year since 2003, draw­ing sev­eral thou­sands of mem­bers of the German-speaking minor­ity. Rep­re­sen­ta­tives of Ger­man reset­tled groups, who have close sen­ti­men­tal ties — as “Heimatver­triebene” (expellees from the home­land) to the “Heimatverbliebene” (those who remained in the home­land) also reg­u­larly, attend the fes­ti­val. Accord­ing to the event’s orga­nizer, the objec­tive of the cul­tural fes­ti­val is to put “the cul­tural riches of the Ger­man minor­ity” on pub­lic display.[1] In addi­tion, it pro­motes future cohe­sion within the minor­ity and rein­forces an ori­en­ta­tion on Ger­many, whose Gen­eral Con­sul in Opole con­tributed finan­cially. The Ger­man national anthem was sung at the event. The report points out that the Ger­man ambas­sador attended the fes­ti­val “up to the end,” — “a great honor,” says the organizer.[2] Also in atten­dance was a right-wing group that had split off from the Ger­man League of Expellees (BdV), whose leader has been con­victed of rel­a­tiviz­ing the Shoah.[3] A cer­tain “Own­ers Asso­ci­a­tion — East,” which seeks to have Pol­ish prop­erty taken over by Ger­man “expellees” was also beat­ing the drums for peo­ple to attend. (german-foreign-policy.com reported.[4])

Neo-Nazi Con­tacts

The Sile­sian Youth was founded in 1983 as the offi­cial youth orga­ni­za­tion of the “Home­land Asso­ci­a­tion Sile­sia.” Through adver­tiz­ing for younger mem­bers, the home­land asso­ci­a­tion sought to reju­ve­nate its aging orga­ni­za­tion, attract­ing a new gen­er­a­tion of mem­bers, born long after reset­tle­ment. Over the past decade, the Sile­sian Youth has clearly made a right-wing devel­op­ment, even though some regional chap­ters have not fol­lowed. For exam­ple, the Bavar­ian regional chap­ter broke with the national orga­ni­za­tion in April 2008, declar­ing that in the lat­ter, “extrem­ist forces” were in action and “were chal­leng­ing, to a cer­tain extent, the Ger­man Constitution.“[5] The Sile­sian Youth in Sax­ony and Thuringia are still the main activists. The Ger­man gov­ern­ment offi­cially accuses them of main­tain­ing “links to the neo-Nazi milieu includ­ing to the NPD.” As of May 2011, “lead­ing offi­ci­at­ing func­tionar­ies” had also been active “in the neo-Nazi ‘Heimat­treuen Deutschen Jugend’ (‘Homeland-Faithful Ger­man Youth’).” The Ger­man gov­ern­ment boasts pos­sess­ing “con­crete evi­dence” “that — ema­nat­ing from the Thuringia Sile­sian Youth regional orga­ni­za­tion — right-wing extrem­ists also exert influ­ence on the Sile­sian Youth National Organization.“[6] Inde­pen­dent research has con­firmed con­tacts to neo-Nazis.

“Break with Warsaw!”

Activists of the Sile­sian Youth, who, for years, had lim­ited them­selves to “East Trips” as tourists to Poland, have now begun to engage in pol­i­tics on Pol­ish ter­ri­tory. The Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony claim that they not only par­tic­i­pated in the “Cul­tural Fes­ti­val of the German-speaking Minor­ity,” but also in a demon­stra­tion July 14, 2012 in Katow­ice, where sev­eral thou­sands demanded “auton­omy for Upper Sile­sia.” The orga­niz­ers are not Poles of the German-speaking minor­ity, but rather activists of a move­ment that inter­prets the Polish-“Silesian” regional dialect to be evi­dence of a “Sile­sian” minor­ity and there­fore demands they be granted spe­cial rights — even includ­ing polit­i­cal auton­omy. There are also German-speaking nation­al­ists in this move­ment. The move­ment is said to be “un-Polish well orga­nized” and is in con­stant growth, praises the Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony. At the July 14 clos­ing rally, mes­sages of greet­ings from Ger­many and from sep­a­ratists in Cat­alo­nia and Flan­ders were read. “Numer­ous con­sul­ta­tions” had taken place and “many new friends” were made, accord­ing to the organization’s web­page. “All the best, at ‘Break with War­saw,’ See you again next year, promised.“[7]

In the Cold of East Germany

Accord­ing to the Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony, they con­tinue to be active in Poland, car­ing for “evi­dence of Ger­man pres­ence in Sile­sia” — “even if this only means the ceme­ter­ies.” They report, for exam­ple, hav­ing vis­ited and pro­vi­sion­ally repaired the ruins of a protes­tant ceme­tery of Ger­man graves “not far beyond the Neisse.” “The infi­nite dam­age caused there by the pride of the Pol­ish nation (...)” could not be com­pletely “erad­i­cated” on such short notice, but mit­i­gated — with, for exam­ple, the restora­tion of a memo­r­ial to Ger­man sol­diers killed in action.[8] Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony also report on their var­i­ous vis­its to mem­bers of the German-speaking minor­ity, which they intend to inten­sify. In the “cold of East Ger­many” they made “Christ­mas dona­tions” to some of the German-speaking Pol­ish women, explic­itly promis­ing to “return more often” in the future.[9] In a self-portrait, the Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony answer an objec­tion from right-wing extrem­ists — refer­ring to regions of Poland — that “East Ger­many is in any case lost.” They declare that “lost and dead is only that which is forgotten.“[10]

“Ger­mans Help Ger­mans First”

Accord­ing to their own account, the Sile­sian Youth from Sax­ony explain that thanks to Klaus Hoff­mann, head of the “Fre­und­schafts– und Hil­f­swerks Ost” (“Friend­ship and Relief Ser­vice East”) their “Christ­mas dona­tions” were made pos­si­ble. Hoff­mann — a for­mer activist of the neo-Nazi NPD and “Gauführer” (dis­trict leader) of Lower Saxony’s “Viking youth” (banned in 1994) — and his orga­ni­za­tion of 80 mem­bers, founded in 1991, reg­u­larly deliver “relief sup­plies” to the German-speaking minor­ity in Poland. . . .

” ‘Smash China’ (II) “; german-foreign-policy.com; 10/16/2012.

EXCERPT: Applauded by the Ger­man Pres­i­dent and offi­cials of the Ger­man gov­ern­ment, the lau­re­ate of a promi­nent Ger­man cul­tural award made a plea for smash­ing China to pieces. China is a “heap of rub­bish,” he said, it must “be dis­mem­bered,” insisted the Chi­nese author, Liao Yiwu, a res­i­dent of Ger­many, who was awarded the pres­ti­gious Peace Prize of the Ger­man Book Trade last Sun­day. His accep­tance speech, in which he made a plea for dis­mem­ber­ing his native coun­try, received hefty applause from Ger­man Pres­i­dent Joachim Gauck and other gov­ern­ment offi­cials. This diplo­matic affront occurred only a few days after the Ger­man For­eign Min­is­ter and his Chi­nese coun­ter­part had signed a “Com­mon Dec­la­ra­tion,” in which Berlin declared its inten­tions to enhance its “strate­gic part­ner­ship” with Bei­jing. On the one hand, this dec­la­ra­tion has resulted from the fact that, because of China’s eco­nomic strength, Ger­many, for the time being, needs a cer­tain form of coop­er­a­tion, not only to sat­isfy the busi­ness inter­ests of its enter­prises, but also to get sup­port in solv­ing the Euro cri­sis. On the other hand, the applause for Liao’s recent anti-Chinese invec­tive shows that Berlin still con­sid­ers Bei­jing as its rival to be com­bated, on a long-term basis.

“Heap of Rubbish”

Sun­day, the exiled Chi­nese author Liao Yiwu declared dur­ing his accep­tance speech for the Peace Prize of the Ger­man Book Trade, that the Chi­nese nation must be “dis­mem­bered.” He said, China is an “infi­nitely huge heap of rub­bish” — a “dic­ta­to­r­ial (...) great empire,” in which “many regions and peo­ples are forcibly chained together.” It must be dis­mem­bered into numer­ous small coun­tries — “for the sake of peace and peace of mind of the whole of human­ity.” A sit­u­a­tion should be sought, in which Tibet, for exam­ple, is “a free coun­try,” in which “bor­ders sep­a­rate Sichuan from Yun­nan.” Sichuan and Yun­nan, are two provinces of China, which Liao evi­dently would also like to see become sep­a­rate coun­tries. Liao said that the famous philoso­pher Laozi, who is sup­posed to have lived in the 6th Cen­tury BC, had made a plea for the cre­ation of “smaller coun­tries with fewer inhab­i­tants.” Back then, China was in fact com­prised “of innu­mer­able small splin­ter states.” Although, he says, “through­out this period, the fires of war were never” extin­guished, “one nation has per­ma­nently occu­pied the oth­ers.” Nev­er­the­less, Liao says in essence that the People’s Repub­lic of China must absolutely be replaced by numer­ous small nations.[1]

Spon­sored by the For­eign Ministry

The week­end appeal for smash­ing China, has sig­nif­i­cance through Liao’s con­nec­tions to Ger­man pol­i­tics. The author, born in 1958 in the People’s Repub­lic of China, has been in seri­ous con­flict with the Chi­nese author­i­ties since the 1980s and has spent time in jail. After his works were made avail­able in Ger­man trans­la­tions in 2007, Ger­man gov­ern­ment agen­cies endeav­ored to win wide pub­lic­ity for him. Liao’s planned appear­ances at the Frank­furt Book Fair in Octo­ber 2009 as well as at the Inter­na­tional Lit­er­a­ture Fair (lit.COLOGNE) in the spring of 2010, had been explic­itly endorsed by the Ger­man For­eign Min­istry, which was aware of him being an oppo­nent of the Chi­nese gov­ern­ment, but author­i­ties in Bei­jing thwarted these appear­ances. The author came to Ger­many in 2011, where he has since resided, liv­ing on a schol­ar­ship from the For­eign Min­istry financed, Ger­man Aca­d­e­mic Exchange Ser­vice (DAAD). After receiv­ing the Geschwis­ter Scholl Award (2011) of the Bavar­ian Regional Asso­ci­a­tion of the Stock Mar­ket Soci­ety of the Ger­man Book Trade, Liao has now received the even more pres­ti­gious Peace Prize of the Ger­man Book Trade, which, accord­ing to its offi­cial expla­na­tion, is awarded each year to a per­son, who has “con­tributed to the real­iza­tion of the idea of peace.” Sun­day, when the author called for smash­ing China, the Ger­man Pres­i­dent, the Pres­i­dent of the Ger­man Bun­destag, Germany’s Min­is­ter of Edu­ca­tion, along with numer­ous other promi­nent Ger­man offi­cials attend­ing the cer­e­monies, applauded.

Busi­ness Interests

Liao’s invec­tives, which were widely acclaimed in the Ger­man media, were uttered only a few days after the Ger­man For­eign Min­is­ter and his Chi­nese coun­ter­part had signed a “Com­mon Dec­la­ra­tion.” Guido West­er­welle had vis­ited China dur­ing the sec­ond half of last week, to cel­e­brate the 40th Anniver­sary of diplo­matic rela­tions between the Fed­eral Repub­lic of Ger­many and the People’s Repub­lic of China. Using the occa­sion, he pointed to the fact that Berlin, in the mean­time, has estab­lished a “strate­gic part­ner­ship” with Bei­jing — since China has become a “great power cen­ter,” to which Ger­many wants to strengthen its ties.[2] On the one hand, this is because of very strong Ger­man busi­ness inter­ests, devel­op­ing out of China’s grow­ing eco­nomic influ­ence. The People’s Repub­lic has devel­oped into Germany’s sec­ond largest sup­plier and fifth largest cus­tomer, both with an upward trend, as well as an impor­tant loca­tion for Ger­man invest­ments. Dur­ing Chan­cel­lor Merkel’s most recent visit alone, com­pany con­tracts were signed with a com­pos­ite value of sev­eral bil­lion US dol­lars. Volk­swa­gen has announced new invest­ments worth bil­lions. In addi­tion, Berlin is also seek­ing Beijing’s sup­port in help­ing curb the Euro crisis.[3] The Com­mon Dec­la­ra­tion, signed Octo­ber 11, 2012, pro­vides for new steps toward a closer coop­er­a­tion, includ­ing an annual “strate­gic dia­logue” between the for­eign min­is­ters as well as reg­u­lar “con­sul­ta­tions” of the chiefs of staff.[4]

Seces­sion­ists as Allies

The sig­nif­i­cance of the devel­op­ing coop­er­a­tion with the People’s Repub­lic can now be seen in the applause for Liao Yiwu’s anti-Chinese invec­tives. While Berlin, for the time being, is inten­si­fy­ing its coop­er­a­tion in the inter­ests of Ger­man busi­nesses and mea­sures to gain con­trol of the Euro cri­sis, it is simul­ta­ne­ously inten­si­fy­ing its con­tacts to those forces, who could poten­tially become Chi­nese allies in oppo­si­tion to Bei­jing. Liao Yiwu is exem­plary in two ways. First, he calls for China to be dis­mem­bered and thereby joins the seces­sion­ists, who had already begun to impli­cate the Fed­eral Repub­lic of Ger­many in the sec­ond half of the 1980s. This was par­tic­u­larly the case of the old Tibetan feu­dal clique around the Dalai Lama. He had been dis­em­pow­ered in the 1950s, sub­se­quently waged an under­ground war against Bei­jing, with­out suc­cess, in spite of com­pre­hen­sive west­ern sup­port — par­tic­u­larly from the CIA. He is today in exile in Dharam­sala, India, where he con­tin­ues to pur­sue his strug­gle against the People’s Repub­lic of China. Their struc­tures and some of their sub­ver­sive activ­i­ties have been sup­ported by Ger­many. (german-foreign-policy.com reported.[5]) Since some time, Ger­many has been giv­ing the seces­sion­ist activ­i­ties of the Uyghurs in west­ern China’s Xin­jiang province much more attention.[6]

Ambi­tious Mid­dle Class as Partner

Sec­ondly, Liao, in Berlin’s views, seems apt to infil­trate social set­tings that can be brought into posi­tion against the Chi­nese gov­ern­ment on a long-term basis. These are the ambi­tious, for the most part, urban influ­enced and mid­dle class, whose grow­ing profit and power inter­ests could one day com­pel them to join with west­ern lib­er­al­iz­ers against Bei­jing. This has been the idea pro­pelling Berlin’s efforts, over the years, to win part­ners among the Chi­nese civil rights activists and artists, acces­si­ble to the West. They, in the long run, could gain ben­e­fi­cial access to the mid­dle classes. This explains Ger­man sup­port for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize lau­re­ate, Liu Xiaobo, who does not want to com­pletely dis­mem­ber China, but still trans­form it into a loose con­fed­er­a­tion of rel­a­tively inde­pen­dent units (a “fed­eral republic”). . . .

Discussion

15 comments for “Austerity as a Vehicle for Breaking Up Nations”

  1. Chi­nese mass xeno­pho­bia may prove to be a force for the over­all global good. In Rus­sia, west­ern cap­i­tal inter­ests sought to cre­ate a class of newly wealthy oli­garchs who would take covert con­trol of the machine of the Russ­ian state and ally them­selves fully with their coun­ter­parts in the west. The forces that fore­stalled that are not beyond moral con­dem­na­tion them­selves and belong to the slip­pery gra­di­ent of nation­al­ism, racism and fear of the other. Even if the full analy­sis of those mass dri­ves escapes us, they did con­cretely result in the emer­gence of Putin as a fully Russ­ian leader with spe­cific raisons d’etre. It’s instruc­tive to real­ize that reestab­lish­ing Russ­ian sov­er­eignty was accom­plished only par­tially and was pro­por­tional to the degree of national resis­tance to inter­na­tional vul­ture capital.

    The mas­sive bureau­cracy that is China can­not respond so dra­mat­i­cally and quickly as did chaotic Rus­sia to the inroads of for­eign ratio­nal­ized cap­i­tal but a reac­tion has been long obvi­ous and is undoubt­edly strength­en­ing. Is a Chi­nese entre­pre­neur who con­sid­ers him­self belong­ing more to the class of global cap­i­tal­ists than to the class of being Chi­nese a moral trai­tor of some type? Accord­ing to the atavis­tic and dis­torted mass psy­chol­ogy that is play­ing out glob­ally, he is, and so will not attain all his ends. The resis­tance is com­ing from a deep reserve of the desire to pre­serve Chi­nese iden­tity for its own sake rather than the desire to pre­serve higher human val­ues. Social­ism in China has devolved to become just a way of say­ing to the west that we are not you, but if the local emer­gence of less vir­tu­ous motives delays the imple­men­ta­tion of com­plete global fas­cism, we should gladly accept that result.

    No purist moral judge­ments can sur­vive in this storm and we must cheer as bad guy X fights bad guy Y. Since no social mech­a­nisms exist that can effec­tively iden­tify, vil­ify, resist and dis­man­tle the deep fas­cist state in its present viral, global incar­na­tion, we must live out our daily lives in the midst of sec­u­lar evil and mostly just watch it destroy. It grows and it hunts and it dreams its col­lec­tive fan­tasy of immor­tal­ity for itself and is out of the con­trol of even its fiercest advo­cates. Know­ing this and see­ing no way to reverse course, its adher­ents must become reality-denying and morally cor­rupt to the same degree as the human tragedy that grows daily. And for the rest of us, we must develop the trick of selec­tively damp­ing down con­scious­ness to exist from day to day. The global Pavlov­ian break­down of the human psy­che is being accom­plished by the very vis­i­ble specter of an onrush­ing destruc­tive process, immi­nently pre­dictable but equally unstop­pable by directed human effort.

    We are left to hope that com­pet­ing evils leave us or our prog­eny a space to sur­vive to a bet­ter future.

    Posted by Dwight | December 1, 2012, 6:10 am
  2. Hi Dave

    Here’s the map of their plans for Europe. Note Britain too is bro­ken up.

    Every coun­try is smaller, except Germany.

    http://www.e-f-a.org./kaartje.php

    Posted by GW | December 1, 2012, 7:59 am
  3. Also

    http://germanywatch.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/dodgy-ngos-and-arab-spring.html

    MI5 files on Ger­man intel­li­gence run­ning the Scot­tish National Party to break up Britain;
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/62508059/nazi-declass-mi5-docs

    Posted by GW | December 1, 2012, 8:03 am
  4. @Dwight: “Chi­nese mass xeno­pho­bia may prove to be a force for the over­all global good.” Sadly, I will HAVE to com­pletely dis­agree with that notion. If any­thing at all, mass xeno­pho­bia in that coun­try will aid the aims of our enemies(you need only look at what’s hap­pened in America).

    Despite what the main­stream media and the Under­ground Reich would like us to think, today’s China is NOT a social­ist state, Dwight, not in the least. It is in fact, Mus­solin­ian FASCIST thru and thru. It is now com­pletely and totally ruled by its mil­i­tary and its cor­po­ra­tions, and the Under­ground Reich and all the rest of the mem­bers of the World Crime Net­work would love noth­ing more than to repeat their suc­cess in China through­out the whole world, includ­ing the U.S. and Russia.

    The balka­niza­tion game? It’s def­i­nitely out there, but in China’s case, it’s lit­tle more than a ruse at the moment; their real over­all goal so far has been to keep China in its cur­rent state as long as possible.

    Per­haps, how­ever, if the Democ­racy move­ment starts to look like it will have some suc­cess, then per­haps Balka­niza­tion efforts will begin in earnest(after all, they’d rather see two or more divided Chi­nas fight­ing amongst each other than a uni­fied demo­c­ra­tic China whose gov­ern­ment actu­ally does turn into a force for good). As for now, though, it’s not really hap­pen­ing yet.

    Posted by Steven L. | December 1, 2012, 6:02 pm
  5. Stephen, our mutual loose usage of the word ‘social­ism’ should not con­fuse the issue. China’s brand of state-dominated cap­i­tal­ism or fas­cism (as you describe it and I don’t agree with that label) is designed to pre­vent the west’s per­pet­ual project of col­o­niza­tion while still being an com­pet­i­tive player in the world mar­ket. The bal­ance is main­tained by closely mon­i­tor­ing and lim­it­ing the degree of for­eign cor­po­rate own­er­ship of Chi­nese enter­prise. Pre­serv­ing China as Chi­nese is a much dif­fer­ent goal than world conquest.

    The total­i­tar­ian mar­shal­ing of any country’s econ­omy to pre­vent out­side dom­i­na­tion might loosely be called either social­ism or fas­cism but the term ‘fas­cism’ is less apt if fas­cism describes a process where some posited entity must con­tin­u­ally encroach on and absorb other com­pet­ing entities.

    With­out sug­gest­ing there is any­thing remark­ably benev­o­lent about China or the Chi­nese national char­ac­ter, I am sim­ply point­ing out that China’s geopol­i­tics are largely slanted to self-preservation rather than con­quest and that this may delay the real­iza­tion of a bor­der­less free-market/fascist world state.

    The Balka­niza­tion project is prob­lem­atic for the west and will have lim­ited suc­cess, since China is rel­a­tively less eth­ni­cally diverse, con­sid­er­ing its size, than most other regions of the world.

    Posted by Dwight | December 2, 2012, 6:05 am
  6. If we want the Ger­mans to stop play­ing this game of inter­fer­ing in the inter­nal pol­i­tics of other nations then the best strat­egy is ‘fight fire with fire’. The rest of the world should start sup­port­ing Bavar­ian, Prussian/E. Ger­man and Saxon seces­sion movements.

    Posted by Chris | December 2, 2012, 12:14 pm
  7. One inevitable con­se­quence from the balka­niza­tion of a nation is an increase in peo­ple relo­cat­ing. So it’s worth not­ing that it’s also a con­se­quence of the euro­zone cri­sis:

    11/15/2012
    Euro-Zone Woes Fuel Immi­gra­tion to Ger­many
    cgh — with wire reports

    The oft-cited pos­si­bil­ity of a double-dip reces­sion in the euro zone has become real­ity. Accord­ing to sta­tis­tics released on Thurs­day by the EU sta­tis­ti­cal office Euro­stat, gross domes­tic prod­uct in the 17 coun­tries in the com­mon cur­rency area fell by 0.1 per­cent in the third quar­ter fol­low­ing a 0.2 per­cent drop in the sec­ond quar­ter. With two con­sec­u­tive quar­ters of neg­a­tive growth, the euro zone has entered its sec­ond reces­sion since the global finan­cial cri­sis of 2009.

    Fur­ther­more, pre­lim­i­nary sta­tis­tics released by Germany’s Fed­eral Sta­tis­ti­cal Office on Thurs­day indi­cate that the tough eco­nomic con­di­tions in south­ern Europe are con­tin­u­ing to fuel migra­tion to Ger­many. The num­ber of immi­grants arriv­ing in Ger­many in the first half of the year was greater than at any point since the mid-1990s, exceed­ing even the lev­els seen in the sec­ond half of 2011. Much of the growth is com­ing from those euro-zone coun­tries hit hard­est by the debt cri­sis.
    ...

    Climb­ing Immi­gra­tion to Germany

    That, though, has not stopped the influx of immi­grants com­ing to Ger­many from crisis-stricken nations fur­ther south. Accord­ing to the Fed­eral Sta­tis­ti­cal Office on Thurs­day, just over half mil­lion peo­ple arrived in Ger­many from abroad from Jan­u­ary to June of this year. That was some 66,000 more than came in the first half of 2011, an increase of 15 per­cent and mark­ing the con­tin­u­a­tion of a trend. Last year, immi­gra­tion was up 20 per­cent over 2010.

    The steep­est increases in the first half of this year have come from euro-zone states. More than 15,700 peo­ple arrived from Greece in the first six months of 2012, a 78 per­cent increase over the first half of 2011. The 11,000 peo­ple who arrived from Spain mark a jump of 53 per­cent over the pre­vi­ous year. The influx from non-euro-zone coun­try Hun­gary rose by 46 per­cent, par­tially due to tough eco­nomic con­di­tions there.

    Numer­i­cally, how­ever, Poland remains on top of the list of ori­gin coun­tries. Some 89,000 peo­ple arrived from Germany’s neigh­bor in the first half of the year.

    With that in mind, it’s going to be inter­est­ing to see how the “move to Ger­many if you can”-model for the econ­omy works out as this trend con­tin­ues because east Ger­many pur­sued a very sim­i­lar strat­egy for reduc­ing its unem­ploy­ment rate since reuni­fi­ca­tion and it hasn’t exactly worked out well:

    Merkel’s euro push leaves east Ger­many out in the cold

    By Stephen Brown

    EISENHUETTENSTADT, Ger­many | Mon Dec 3, 2012 11:50am GMT

    (Reuters) — This fad­ing indus­trial city, like many in Angela Merkel’s for­mer East Ger­man home, is stony ground for the chancellor’s mes­sage of Euro­pean inte­gra­tion and fer­tile soil for oppo­nents try­ing to stop her win­ning a third term next September.

    More than two decades after uni­fi­ca­tion, income and jobs in the five east­ern states, home to 15 per­cent of the pop­u­la­tion, still lag behind the west and tril­lions of euros in trans­fers have not stemmed an exo­dus that has left some areas look­ing like ghost towns.

    “Peo­ple have too many prob­lems to worry about the euro cri­sis,” said Michael, a 40-year-old steel­worker in the town of Eisen­huet­ten­stadt, east from Berlin near the Pol­ish border.

    Orig­i­nally called “Stal­in­stadt”, it was built in the 1950s as an indus­trial com­plex and “the first Social­ist city in Ger­many”. The pride of the GDR, it was renamed in 1961 and had 50,000 inhab­i­tants in its heyday.

    In a famil­iar story across east Ger­many, reuni­fi­ca­tion meant mass unem­ploy­ment as communist-run indus­try failed to com­pete on the free mar­ket. About 40 per­cent of the town’s pop­u­la­tion went west and much of the hous­ing for GDR work­ers stands empty.

    In a coun­try whose con­ser­v­a­tive chan­cel­lor ded­i­cates a lot of time to blue-sky think­ing about the future and demo­graphic change, the most demographically-challenged areas of do not feel their plight is a polit­i­cal priority.

    “Future? We have no future,” said Suzanne, wheel­ing her bicy­cle past an Ger­many aban­doned pre­fab tower block with bro­ken win­dows on the banks of a canal. She would not give her sur­name, like many peo­ple in a coun­try with his­toric sen­si­tiv­i­ties about privacy.

    Merkel’s plans for a third term, if she wins, are typ­i­cally undra­matic and give the impres­sion of fine-tuning a well-oiled machine. The Chris­t­ian Democ­rats (CDU) will make her the focus of a personality-based cam­paign which will be new for Germany.

    “The elec­tion will be won by who­ever is most con­vinc­ing that our cur­rency and jobs are safe,” said one senior Merkel ally.

    Judg­ing by what peo­ple in Eisen­huet­ten­stadt would like to see dis­cussed — a legal min­i­mum wage and greater job secu­rity — there is still a lot of work to be done con­vinc­ing peo­ple in the east, where unem­ploy­ment is way over the 6.9 per­cent national rate and incomes are a fifth lower than the aver­age in the west.

    “We just want rea­son­able hope for our future,” said steel­worker Michael, walk­ing home on a raw win­ter evening from the plant that dom­i­nates the town’s sky-line and its thoughts.

    Still pop­u­larly known by its communist-era name EKO-Stahl, the plant that used to employ 12,000 peo­ple now gives work to 2,700 and is owned by ArcelorMittal.

    ...

    “The steel­works won’t go on pro­duc­ing for­ever because of all this com­pe­ti­tion from China,” said local woman Suzanne. “The kids just move away. They go where the jobs are.”

    The town’s 9 per­cent unem­ploy­ment rate is bet­ter than many other areas of east Bran­den­burg, but Mayor Dag­mar Pueschel says it has only fallen that far — from over 20 per­cent in the early 1990s — because so many thou­sands of peo­ple have left.

    “May­ors in the area around Berlin worry about how to pay for new schools, kinder­gartens and hous­ing. Here it’s the oppo­site — we have to close down kinder­gartens and demol­ish hous­ing. We’ve already demol­ished 6,000 homes,” she said.

    ...

    Over at the steel­works, ArcelorMittal’s Schmidt said EU and national energy taxes, prices and pol­icy were hur­dles that meant the Ger­man steel indus­try “is in a race it can­not win”.

    If more indus­try leaves, the exo­dus will accel­er­ate. Already the pop­u­la­tion of the east­ern states is seen shrink­ing by a fur­ther 15 per­cent by 2030, nearly three times faster than the rate at which the over­all Ger­man pop­u­la­tion is fore­cast to fall.

    ...

    Also note that the spikes in Ger­man immi­gra­tion could be an espe­cially dif­fi­cult trend for lower-income Ger­mans already strug­gling to get by because, accord­ing to a new OECD report, Ger­man employ­ers pre­fer for­eign unskilled labor over the domes­tic coun­ter­parts for the low wage seg­ments of the econ­omy. And the unem­ploy­ment rate for immi­grants liv­ing in Ger­many is already unusu­ally so there’s a lot of avail­able cheap labor for Ger­man employ­ers. In other words, while this employ­ment trend may ben­e­fit a few inter­est groups, the over­all job sit­u­a­tion for low income east Ger­mans doesn’t look good:

    OECD report: immi­grant employ­ment rate up in Ger­many
    Date 03.12.2012
    The Organ­i­sa­tion for Eco­nomic Co-operation and Devel­op­ment (OECD) has reported improve­ments in the employ­ment rate among immi­grants liv­ing in Ger­many. How­ever, Ger­many could do more for for­eign work­ers, it said.

    Over the past decade, the unem­ploy­ment rate among immi­grants in Ger­many rose to 65 per­cent, a full seven per­cent, accord­ing to Monday’s report from the Paris-based eco­nomic orga­ni­za­tion. While the report’s other analy­ses revealed a com­par­a­tively bet­ter pic­ture in Ger­many than in other OECD coun­tries, it drew atten­tion to a sit­u­a­tion still in need of improve­ment.
    ...

    The edu­ca­tion level also report­edly rose by 12 per­cent among Germany’s pop­u­la­tion with for­eign roots. How­ever, the central-European eco­nomic power lagged in hir­ing highly edu­cated work­ers over the past decade — regard­less of where they had been born — com­pared to their Ger­man coun­ter­parts, espe­cially in the pub­lic sector.

    “In Ger­many, [employ­ers] rarely make use of the oppor­tu­nity to hire a teacher or police­man with for­eign roots,” said OECD immi­gra­tion expert Thomas Liebig.

    By con­trast, low-skilled migrant work­ers were hired more often than Ger­mans lack­ing qual­i­fi­ca­tions.

    “Many employ­ers con­sider these for­eign­ers as poorly edu­cated, but will­ing work,” said OECD expert Liebig.

    kms/hc (dpa, dapd, epd)

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | December 3, 2012, 3:59 pm
  8. I think some more meta-analysis would be wel­come from Pter or Dave or oth­ers in the thread of this spe­cific line of inquiry. It is not an exact sci­ence, to be sure, but some greater ven­ture into the realm of cumu­la­tive per­sonal opin­ion would let us know which ques­tions we are col­lec­tively pon­der­ing. The oppor­tu­nity to come to more def­i­nite con­clu­sions should not be missed when we have some seem­ingly like-minded and capa­ble thinkers in this infor­mal forum. The raft of data sup­port­ing the idea that destruc­tive forces are at work on the planet is surely wel­come and nec­es­sary, but is that enough?

    For instance, I see the global accu­mu­la­tive cap­i­tal­ist (fas­cist) process as hav­ing only inci­den­tal pre­pon­der­ance and ori­gin in Ger­many. The evi­dence I see of the global mech­a­nism points to an over­all recent ‘slip­per­i­ness’, wherein no geo­graphic focus will be found and no weak cen­ter will be allowed to coalesce.

    I see no over­ar­ch­ing con­tra­dic­tion in the his­toric data which points to Ger­many as the his­toric focus (con­sid­er­ing only a his­tory of two cen­turies or so) of the most vir­u­lent brand(s) of fas­cism and my own con­tention that the forces we are wit­ness­ing are not, in the end, geo­graph­i­cally, eth­ni­cally, cul­tur­ally or lan­guage based.

    Accord­ing to this pos­tu­late, the Ger­man peo­ple will be vic­tim­ized as thor­oughly as any­one else in the future, by forces that have no loy­alty to national identity.

    And, by this same inter­pre­ta­tion, WW2 was essen­tially a pre­ma­ture ejac­u­la­tion in the lean­ing curve of of an elite global col­lec­tive. They learned that nation-based, ‘great leader’-based fas­cism is highly vul­ner­a­ble. Given that, I do not think that model will be repeated, except for highly lim­ited and local incarnations.

    As great as the evi­dence is for Germany’s ongo­ing impe­r­ial ambi­tions, I think we make a mis­take in too much focus on Ger­many. The urge to dom­i­nate and escape suf­fer­ing by mak­ing oth­ers suf­fer is char­ac­ter­is­tic of all times, all peo­ples, and sadly, of each of us.

    It’s a crude anal­ogy, but sup­pose a man named George was the first to suf­fer a crip­pling and con­ta­gious dis­ease. Would it wiser to spend all our time ana­lyz­ing George and his sus­pect char­ac­ter or would we we do bet­ter to look at the dis­ease itself?

    Com­ments, please.

    Posted by Dwight | December 4, 2012, 12:02 am
  9. Posted by Pterrafractyl | December 4, 2012, 12:54 pm
  10. George Osborne just announced that Britain will self-impose an addi­tional year of planned aus­ter­ity in order to achieve its deficit tar­gets because poor eco­nomic per­for­mance due to the planned aus­ter­ity has resulted in higher than pro­jected deficits. Yep. It will be inter­est­ing to see how the con­se­quences of the Cameron government’s aus­ter­ity fetish impacts nation­al­ist sen­ti­ments in the UK.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | December 5, 2012, 9:06 am
  11. Just a reminder: Berlin views falling wages as a “struc­tural improve­ment”:

    Pub­lished on 2012-11-28 17:54:24
    Exclu­sive: Ger­man Gov­ern­ment Cov­ers Up, Waters Down Poverty Report

    By Thomas Öchsner
    SUDDEUTSCHE ZEITUNG/Worldcrunch

    BERLIN — Crit­i­cal pas­sages in the Ger­man government’s lat­est “Poverty and Wealth Report” have been smoothed over, and crit­i­cal pas­sages have been excised, reveals Süd­deutsche Zeitung.

    The news­pa­per was able to com­pare a draft ver­sion with a revised ver­sion dated Nov. 21 and released for com­ment by the trade unions.

    In the intro­duc­tion of the report, a state­ment say­ing “Pri­vate wealth in Ger­many is very unevenly dis­trib­uted” has been removed.

    The first draft of the “Poverty and Wealth Report,” which is released every four years by the Fed­eral Min­istry of Labor went out to mem­bers of Germany’s gov­ern­ment in mid-September. It con­tained mate­r­ial that was crit­i­cal of the sta­tus quo, includ­ing the fol­low­ing about salaries: “While upper-end salaries showed pos­i­tive growth, in price-adjusted terms lower-end salaries went down in the past 10 years, thus increas­ing income dis­par­ity.” This dam­aged “the pub­lic sense of fair­ness” and could “pose a threat to social cohe­sion,” said the report.

    This has been replaced by state­ments say­ing that the fact that salaries went down in price-adjusted terms reflected “struc­tural improve­ments” on the jobs mar­ket and that between 2007 and 2011 numer­ous new lower-paid full­time jobs opened up that had enabled many of the job­less to find employment.

    The new ver­sion is also watered down with regard to sin­gle peo­ple whose hourly wage at a full-time job does not add up to enough to live on per month. The first ver­sion stated that this increased the risk of poverty and weak­ened the social fab­ric – a state­ment that has dis­ap­peared from the present ver­sion. All that remains is a com­ment that this “should be seen as critical.”

    ...

    You have to won­der what the impli­ca­tions of falling Ger­man wages are for the rest of the euro­zone, because by the “king of the hill” logic now in place, increased com­pet­i­tive­ness in the Ger­man econ­omy means the rest of the euro­zone economies will just have to get that much more com­pet­i­tive in order claw their way out of the aus­ter­ity death spi­ral. And what could pos­si­bly go wrong with such an approach to eco­nomic har­mo­niza­tion? Noth­ing...as long as increas­ing poverty is defined as a “struc­tural improve­ment”.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | December 5, 2012, 2:35 pm
  12. Seces­sion movements:

    It’s worth becom­ing aware of the Pacific North­west left-wing ori­ented seces­sion move­ment, “Cascadia”:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&q=cascadia+movement

    One can fore­see a path for the Cas­ca­dia Move­ment becom­ing polit­i­cally seri­ous or sig­nif­i­cant, when viewed in con­text of the forth­com­ing Obama Admin­is­tra­tion response to mar­i­juana legal­iza­tion in Wash­ing­ton state:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us/marijuana-initiatives-in-2-states-set-federal-officials-scrambling.html

    The Obama Admin­is­tra­tion will have lit­tle choice but to crack­down on Washington’s legal­ized mar­i­juana. Obama’s DOJ can­not fea­si­bly admin­is­ter two dif­fer­ent sets of rules, for the other 48 states.

    When fed­eral Democ­rats crack­down on Democ­rats, and attempt to nul­lify the results of a legal elec­tion ref­er­en­dum in Wash­ing­ton State, the Cas­ca­dia Move­ment may get a sig­nif­i­cant boost.

    Posted by R. Wilson | December 8, 2012, 10:04 pm
  13. @R. Wil­son et al, on the pot ini­tia­tive... Proud times for Amer­ica: Whereas silly, old-fashioned JFK sent fed­eral troops to Mis­sis­sippi, enforc­ing the pro­tec­tion of con­sti­tu­tional rights, Obama will have them in Seat­tle, shoring up the War on non-whites Drugs.

    Things will indeed get inter­est­ing. A hand­ful of Latin Amer­i­can states are already more than happy to enter­tain notions of opt­ing out of such a non­sen­si­cal, crime-enabling War. It will be enter­tain­ing to com­pare Pres. O’s vac­u­ous sound­bites, before and after the inevitable comes to pass... at least those utter­ances not drowned out by a hail of stage-managed small arms fire.

    Posted by Rob Coogan | December 9, 2012, 4:30 am
  14. @R. Wil­son: The Cas­ca­dia move­ment def­i­nitely is an inter­est­ing thing for sure, but I doubt it will suc­ceed at any time in the near future. Hell, even the neo-Confederate move­ment hasn’t taken off yet, and that’s about 100x more viable at this point. So I’m not wor­ried about the North­west break­ing off at this juncture.

    @Rob C.: One thing to keep in mind is that Obama does still have to deal with the Repubs. One must won­der what they’d want to pull if Obama relented on this. Can you say “impeach­ment”, anyone?

    Posted by Steven L. | December 9, 2012, 1:46 pm
  15. @Rob Coogan: You’re illus­trat­ing my point exactly. Mar­i­juana legal­iza­tion is a wedge issue that will divide Demo­c­ra­tic sup­port for Obama, and fuel an already-existing minor seces­sion­ist movement.

    When mar­i­juana legal­iza­tion was on the bal­lot in Cal­i­for­nia two years ago, it failed due to a right-wing effort that poured cash into adver­tise­ments — cash from out­side Cal­i­for­nia. Although the right-wing ads suc­ceeded in Cal­i­for­nia, no such effort was under­taken in Wash­ing­ton state. Why not?

    Posted by R. Wilson | December 9, 2012, 2:28 pm

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