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English Defense League Admits Links to Norway Nazi Killer

English Defense League Weighs In

COMMENT:  After initial denial, the British populist/fascist group has admitted links to Anders Breivik, the Norway Nazi killer.

Aside from the superficial element of alarm–overt fascists gaining strength and publicity in a time of severe economic crisis and social dislocation–the growth and activities of groups like the EDL and Sweden Democrats actually work to strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood’s Islamofascist organization.

(In addition to the vast number of programs detailing the Muslim Brotherhood’s activities, the Global Muslim Brotherhood Report feeds at the bottom of the front page of this site.)

Whenever the Brotherhood can present itself as the victims of fascists like the EDL, Sweden Democrats, Breivik and their ilk, it is a huge ideological and tactical victory for them, furthering their insidious Islamofascist agenda.

Too bad that those who gravitate to the EDL, SD’s etc. are too Goddamn stupid and/or venal and/or insane to figure this out.

“UK Group Admits Links with Norway Killer”  [PTI]; Daily News and Analysis; 7/26/2011.

EXCERPT: After initial denial, the far-right English Defence League (EDL) has admitted that Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik had links to the group.

Breivik reportedly met leaders of the EDL in March last year when he came to London for the visit of Geert Wilders, the Dutch right-wing politician.

Daryl Hobson, who organises EDL demonstrations, said Breivik had met members of the group.

Hobson said in an online posting: “He had about 150 EDL on his list … bar one or two doubt the rest of us ever met him, altho [sic] he did come over for one of our demo [sic] in 2010 … but what he did was wrong. RIP to all who died as a result of his actions.”

Another senior member of the EDL said Breivik had been in regular contact with its members via Facebook, and had a “hypnotic” effect on them, the Daily Telegraph reported today.

Scotland Yard was investigating Breivik’s claims that he began his deadly “crusade” after being recruited to a secret society in London, and that he was guided by an English “mentor.” . . .


Discussion

9 comments for “English Defense League Admits Links to Norway Nazi Killer”

  1. Let’s not forget that the Norway murderer is a Christian terrorist. The Western equivalents to the Muslim Brotherhood are usually Christofascist in the same way that the MB is Islamofascist. It seems the world is stuck with choosing either Christofascism or Islamofascism.

    Posted by Joshua Laudermilk | August 14, 2011, 6:36 am
  2. EDL profits from London riots:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024707/UK-riots-2011-Met-Polices-Tim-Godwin-warns-EDL-hijack-vigilante-patrols.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    Right-wing extremists hijacking the vigilante patrols protecting against looters, warn police

    — EDL and BNP singled out as extremist groups who may try to inflame racial tension

    — Residents claim EDL involved in organising vigilantes there on Tuesday nightBritain’s most senior police officer yesterday warned that Right-wing extremists could ‘hijack’ vigilante patrols protecting against looters.

    Acting Metropolitan Police Commissioner Tim Godwin singled out the English Defence League and the British National Party as two organisations who might exploit the situation.

    His warning comes amid intelligence that the EDL has successfully infiltrated vigilante groups in Enfield, North London – scene of some of the worst mindless violence and criminality on Sunday night – and Eltham in South East London.

    Police warn the potential for this to ‘fuel the flames’ of an already fraught situation by adding a ‘violent racial element’ is ‘enormous and worrying.’

    Residents claimed some English Defence League supporters were involved in organising vigilante patrols of young white men under the name Enfield Defence League on Tuesday night.

    They split into three 30-strong groups in contact by mobile telephone and BlackBerry to patrol the streets.

    Posted by R. Wilson | August 14, 2011, 11:12 pm
  3. Dave take a look at this when you get a chance:

    Norwegian Police Conducted Drill for ‘Practically Identical Scenario’ Right Before Utoya Attack
    http://cryptogon.com/?p=24540

    Posted by big john | September 1, 2011, 4:17 pm
  4. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/01/britons-links-to-anders-breivik-utoya

    More Britons face questions over links to Utøya killer Anders Breivik

    Names emerged from interviews with Breivik and English anti-Muslim blogger Paul Ray, say Norwegian police

    Norwegian police say they are to question several British citizens in their search for potential accomplices of mass killer Anders Behring Breivik.

    Officers in Oslo said the names of individuals and several far-right groups emerged from questioning of British anti-Muslim blogger Paul Ray as well as further interviews with Breivik.

    Police press officer Roar Hanssen said: “We have some names and also some groups we are investigating. They came from Paul Ray, and also from Breivik and also from other things we have been investigating.”

    Breivik, 32, admitted killing 77 people last month when he detonated a truck bomb outside government offices in Oslo, and then went on a shooting spree at a youth camp at Utøya, 25 miles away.

    He was questioned again on Wednesday and prosecutor Paal-Fredrik Hjort Kraby said officers focused on Breivik’s manifesto, his alleged links to a group called the Knights Templar and potential ties to the UK.

    Hanssen said: “A lot of people are mentioned in Breivik’s manifesto and we, of course, want to speak to them and there are some links to the UK. I don’t know if there are specific areas they are from but there are some rightwing groups.”

    Ray was interviewed last week after claims he may have been the “mentor” mentioned by Breivik in his “manifesto”, posted online shortly before he carried out the killings on 22 July.

    Ray, who wrote his blog under the name Lionheart, has said it appeared Breivik drew inspiration from some of his ideas and writings, but he has repeatedly denied any link, saying he never met Breivik and was horrified by the killings. He said he travelled to Norway to “clear his name”.

    Breivik wrote that he attended the founding meeting of the Knights Templar Europe “military order” in London in 2002 where he met a “mentor” who used the pseudonym Richard, after Richard the Lionheart. He signed the 1,500-page document with an anglicised version of his name and datelined it London 2011.

    Breivik also repeatedly praised the English Defence League, saying he had 600 EDL supporters as Facebook friends and had spoken with members and leaders. The EDL has condemned the killings and has denied any official contact with Breivik, insisting it is a peaceful, non-racist organisation opposed to extremism.

    Kraby said Norwegian police did not have evidence that Breivik had accomplices, but “did not rule out the possibility.”

    Posted by R. Wilson | September 1, 2011, 7:30 pm
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  6. As the trial of Anders Breivik proceeds it’s becoming clear that the most important thing to Breivik is that he is not viewed as ‘insane’. So his attorney invited other people on the stand that share Breivik’s views in order to establish that other people share his views too and therefore he’s not insane. It apparently didn’t occur to the defense that inviting other people to profess a shared worldview with Breivik in order to establish his sanity doesn’t work when those other people happen to be lunatics:

    The Atlantic
    Anders Breivik Is Counting on Crazy Racists to Prove He Isn’t Crazy

    Dashiell Bennett Jun 5, 2012

    In what must have been the oddest day of a long and painful trial, attorneys for Norwegian mass murderer Andres Breivik called anti-Muslim extremists to the stand to testify in their client’s defense. The men were called to explain their virulently racist conspiracies theories to the court in order to prove that believing in virulently racist conspiracy theories doesn’t mean you’re insane.

    One witness, Arne Tumyr (pictured above), who heads the organisation Stop the Islamisation of Norway, said that Islam was “an evil political ideology”; compared Pakistan to the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany; and said the Prophet Mohamed was “a sexual delinquent, a looter of caravans, an assassin, a war criminal.” He talked about Winnie the Pooh’s buddy, Piglet, who he claimed was banned from a day care because Muslims consider him impure. Tore Tvedt, who has a previous conviction for making anti-Semitic statements, told the court that “the constitution has been cancelled” and “when [Muslims] get their will, the Nordic race will be exterminated.” A third accused the government of downplaying statistics about Islamic demographics and to hide a threat that will turn Norway into “the French condition.” A fourth, who lives in Britain, testified that he never leaves the house without a bulletproof vest.

    According to reporter Mark Lewis, who has been covering the entire trial for several outlets, the testimony was met with yawns, confusion, and little sympathy. The men who were supposed to prove that Breivik isn’t crazy appeared to be even crazier than him. They saw the opportunity to testify as an opportunity to prove their case to the world, but everyone else in the courtroom, including the judges were unimpressed.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | June 8, 2012, 1:54 pm
  7. Yes you do…

    Media Matters
    “We Got Your Back”: Fox Host Kilmeade Endorses Tommy Robinson, Leader Of Violent Anti-Muslim Hate Group
    Blog ››› June 11, 2013 1:34 PM EDT ››› ERIC HANANOKI

    Fox News host Brian Kilmeade told the leader of a violent nationalist hate group that targets British Muslims, “We got your back” and “it’s great what you’re doing.”

    Kilmeade offered his endorsement to the English Defence League (EDL) and co-founder Tommy Robinson, who appeared as a guest on the June 10 edition of Kilmeade’s Fox News Radio program. Kilmeade’s support followed an interview in which Robinson railed against the immigration of Muslims into the United Kingdom, and warned of Muslims “forcefully putting us under Sharia” Law and planning a “silent takeover” to “implement Sharia” in his country and across the world.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | June 12, 2013, 9:51 am
  8. One of the organization disadvantages, however, is that convincing the populace to empower blatant power-mongers generally requires a far-right movement to cater to its locale’s particular collective insanities. As a consequence, different far-right movements are often forced to hide the fact that they all share the same hidden long-term goal of transforming a society into some sort disempowered play-thing of the oligarchs. So, instead of a unified front, you get a collection of faux-fronts that are so overtly crazy that the different far-right movements sometimes seem like they don’t want to be seen in public with each other. It’s a situation Dutch far-right leader Geert Wilders has been struggling to overcome:

    Searchlight Magazine
    Eurosceptics snub Wilders’ attempt to form European far-right party

    Published on Wednesday, 28 August 2013 12:02
    Written by EurActiv

    The controversial Dutch far-right leader wants to gather like-minded parties in a mass movement ahead of next year’s European elections, but not all are ready to join. UKIP frontrunner Nigel Farage has rejected such an initiative.

    The controversial leader of the Dutch Party for Freedom (PVV), Geert Wilders, has toured Europe over the past few weeks in an attempt to create a new movement of far-right parties ahead of the next European elections, scheduled to take place in May 2014.

    Wilders met with like-minded leaders from the Belgian Vlaams Belang, the French National Front (FN), the Swedish Democrats, the Italian Northern League and possibly also with the newly formed German Alternative for Germany.

    The PVV had until recently energetically rejected any possible collaboration with Le Pen’s FN or the Vlaams Belang.

    The Dutch nationalist leader clarified his European ambitions in the Dutch media.

    Wilders said he did not want to see “extremist and racist” parties joining his movement, citing Hungary’s Jobbik and the British National Party. His wish is to bring together those who are “against the European Union and against mass immigration,” he told the Dutch public broadcaster NOS.

    But so far, few have confirmed their participation in this new political platform, which is supposed to create a coalition of eurosceptic movements.

    “Our party has not joined the alliance,” says Martin Kinnunen, the spokesperson for the Swedish Eurosceptic Democrats. “We have met with different parties to get more information but it is hard to say anything at this stage as we don’t know which parties will participate.”

    A similar lukewarm response came from the Italian Northern League, while the rest of the parties were not immediately reachable for comment.

    This is not the first time that nationalist parties have sought to join forces inside the European Parliament. Many previous attempts were short-lived, as was the case in the late eighties with the Group of the European Right, chaired by FN leader Jean-Marie Le Pen.

    Many nationalist and eurosceptic parties currently have a seat in Parliament, but the groups are rarely ideologically coherent. The most vocal is the “Europe of Freedom and Democracy” party, chaired by the UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader, Nigel Farage.

    In an e-mailed statement to EurActiv, UKIP made it clear that the party would not join Wilders’ initiative.

    “UKIP is not right-wing but a Libertarian party which believes in small government, low taxes, personal freedom and responsibility under a democratic national government, not under Brussels rule. UKIP are not involved in this initiative by Geert Wilders.”

    The members of the European Parliament from Wilders’ PVV are currently not attached to a political group in the assembly. In April, Wilders claimed in an interview that a “political revolution” in Europe was underway, announcing a massive victory for right-wing parties.

    But sometimes, when the mainstream parties have already collectively embraced far-right policies, the far-right’s faux-populism really gets to shine! All they have to do in that situation is seem just a little less crazy than the mainstream:

    The Economist
    Not so Calvinist any more
    The Party of Freedom benefits from Dutch austerity fatigue
    Sep 28th 2013 | AMSTERDAM

    GEERT WILDERS, a far-right populist politician, has been stirring up Dutch politics for nearly a decade, but he has never lured many people onto the streets. Unlike more mainstream Dutch parties, Mr Wilders’s Party for Freedom (PVV) has no dues-paying members and propagates its anti-Islamic, anti-immigrant, Eurosceptic message largely through the media. But on September 21st, the PVV adopted a new tactic, staging a rally in The Hague to demand a halt to the Dutch government’s latest austerity measures.

    According to the police, only a thousand demonstrators turned up. But the low turnout belies Mr Wilders’s popularity. With the Dutch public turning against EU-imposed austerity, the coalition government is paralysed. Polls suggest that if elections were held today the PVV, which calls for the Netherlands to block immigration and to withdraw from the euro and the EU, would come first.

    This represents a sharp shift from a year ago, when Dutch voters shunned Mr Wilders in favour of the Liberal prime minister, Mark Rutte, and the Labour Party of Diederik Samsom. The grand coalition that Mr Rutte and Mr Samsom formed promised daadkracht, the power and determination to get things done. Instead, it has become mired in arguments over how to apportion the austerity needed to hit the EU’s strict deficit targets. On September 17th the government presented a harsh budget for 2014, unveiled, as is traditional, in an annual address by the country’s (recently enthroned) king. It contains €6 billion ($8.1 billion) in fresh spending cuts and tax increases totalling 1% of GDP. The king’s speech, written by Mr Rutte, proclaimed the end of the Dutch welfare state.

    This ideological vision has received mixed reviews. But the more pressing problem for Mr Rutte is that it is not clear he can get his budget approved. The increasingly queasy Liberal-Labour coalition has a narrow majority in the Dutch lower house, but not in the Senate. That leaves the government scrambling for the votes of opposition parties, none of which are eager to help. The leaders of two centrist parties have criticised the government’s budget fiercely for raising taxes and failing to invest in education. If it fails in the Senate, that may mean a cabinet reshuffle. Equally, budget defeat could lead to an early election for the third time in four years.

    That option should terrify both the Liberals and Labour. After over a year of recession and austerity, polls show confidence in Mr Rutte’s government at a miserable 12%. On the right, small-business owners feel betrayed by a Liberal-led cabinet that has raised value-added tax and imposed a surtax on high incomes. On the left, union members are abandoning a Labour Party that has accepted lay-offs and pay freezes in the public sector.

    The big winners of a tough year have been the parties that have consistently opposed austerity, above all the PVV. As the recession drags on, Mr Wilders, a master of political rhetoric, has capitalised on the crisis and austerity fatigue by savaging the EU, which demanded the extra €6 billion effort. Opinion polls now show the PVV getting over 20% of the vote.

    The Dutch are a famously thrifty people and their government has been among Europe’s strongest advocates of austerity. But two years of cuts and recession have made a dent in these Calvinist attitudes: fully 80% of the public now thinks austerity is doing more harm than good. Mr Rutte’s unpopularity stems from his attempt to bring the government’s budget into line with the European Commission’s rules. But in order to get the budget passed, he will need to offer big concessions to centrist opposition parties. Should they flinch, the prospect of Mr Wilders winning the next elections ought to focus minds.

    So will the austerity-weary proles come to embrace the European far-right as austerity continues to wear down public confidence in traditional parties? We’ll see. But in the mean time, it looks like someone is buying what Geert’s selling.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | September 26, 2013, 10:30 pm
  9. LOL! I managed to leave out the leading paragraph of the above 1984-ish comment. Who needs Thought Police when you have sloppy commentary!

    So yeah, as I was planning on saying, one of the organizational advantages often held by the various far-right movements around the globe is that, while the particular ideologies might vary, the underlying goal is often the same one articulated in 1984: “The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power“. This can be a pretty powerful driving force as long as the proles never figure out that they’re part of the larger ‘prole’ populace and buy whatever garbage is being fed to them as an explanation for why things are the way they are.

    One of the orga­ni­za­tion dis­ad­van­tages, how­ever, ….etc.

    Avoiding double plus ungood typos also helps.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | September 27, 2013, 9:16 pm

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