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German Intelligence, The National Socialist Underground and 9/11


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COMMENT: We’ve cov­ered [3] the neo-Nazi [4] group The Nation­al Social­ist Under­ground and its links [5] to Ger­man intel­li­gence [5] for months.

One of the most sig­nif­i­cant aspects of the case is the fact that pow­er­ful ele­ments with­in the Ger­man gov­ern­ment [6] are going to extra­or­di­nary lengths to eclipse the insti­tu­tion­al con­nec­tions of the group.

Turk­ish media [7] were exclud­ed from being seat­ed at the tri­al of the group [8], many of whose vic­tims were Turks. In addi­tion, lead­ing Ger­man media [9] were left out of a “raf­fle” to award seat­ing at the tri­al. 

For more than a decade, we’ve exam­ined the 9/11 attacks, the Nazi and fas­cist [10] con­nec­tions to that attack, in par­tic­u­lar.

In our vis­its with Daniel Hop­sick­er [11], we have not­ed that Mohamed Atta was frat­er­niz­ing with Ger­mans [12] and Aus­tri­ans in South Flori­da [13], hav­ing been brought into the Unit­ed States [14] (from Ger­many) by the Carl Duis­berg Soci­ety [15].

Now, Ger­many Watch has pub­lished an intrigu­ing hypoth­e­sis con­cern­ing the mur­ders com­mit­ted by the group and the 9/11 attacks.


Andreas Strass­meier and com­pos­ite sketch of “John Doe #2” in the Okla­homa City bomb­ing.

Against the back­ground [17] of Ger­man intel­li­gence [18] con­nec­tions to the 9/11 attacks, the sto­ry below notes that mur­ders 2, 3 and 4 occurred in the imme­di­ate run-up to 9/11, the fourth less than two weeks before. 

The Nation­al Social­ist Union then dis­ap­peared from pub­lic view for two years.

The pres­ence of a Ger­man intel­li­gence offi­cer at the scene of one of the mur­ders (who pos­sessed Third Reich doc­u­ments as well as oth­er Nazi para­pher­na­lia) also is worth not­ing, as is the use­ful “amne­sia” (mind con­trol?) of one of the Ger­man police offi­cers shot by the group. 

Of course there are oth­er pos­si­bil­i­ties for the duplic­i­ty on the part of the author­i­ties, how­ev­er the work­ing hypoth­e­sis pre­sent­ed by the Ger­many Watch folks is more than a lit­tle intrigu­ing.


Pan Am Flight 103 bomb­ing: The “oper­a­tional tem­plate” for the 9/11 attacks?

In this con­text, a num­ber 0f things come to mind: 

“The Neo-Nazi Show Tri­al And The Tim­ing Of The Mur­ders”; Ger­many Watch; 5/5/2013. [30]

ENTIRE TEXT: The Ger­man show tri­al for the Nation­al Social­ist Under­ground begins this week, after sev­er­al false starts due to the Bavar­i­an Court not want­i­ng inter­est­ed press at the hear­ings (see here).

There is a strange coin­ci­dence to the dates and places;

Mur­ders num­ber 2, 3, 4, and 5;

Mur­der of Abdur­rahim Özü­doğru
On 13 June 2001, Abdur­rahim Özü­doğru was killed by two shots in the head with the same silenced CZ 83 already used in the mur­der of Enver Şimşek. Özü­doğru, who worked as a machin­ist for a big com­pa­ny in Nurem­berg (which com­pa­ny?) had been help­ing out in a tai­lor’s shop; the mur­der was dis­cov­ered by a pass­er-by who looked through the shop win­dow and saw the body sit­ting in the back of the shop, cov­ered in blood.

Mur­der of Süley­man Taşköprü
On 27 June 2001 between 10:45 and 11:15 a.m, Süley­man Taşköprü, aged 31, died in his green­gro­cer’s shop in Ham­burg-Bahren­feld after being shot in the head three times. This was two weeks after the sec­ond mur­der, and the same guns as in the first case were used, a CZ 83 and a 6.35 mm gun.

Mur­der of Habil Kılıç
On 29 August 2001 Habil Kılıç became the fourth vic­tim. Kılıç, aged 38, who was mar­ried and had a daugh­ter, was shot at point-blank range in his green­gro­cer’s shop in Munich-Ramers­dorf. This was the first of two mur­ders in Munich.

The The­o­ry

Are these linked to the 9/11 Ham­burg cell? They all worked shop fronts, which are per­fect for low lev­el intel­li­gence mes­sen­gers, they may have been sup­ply­ing some­thing along the lines of fake ID/paperwork or weapons, or per­haps they were just messengers/couriers for Ger­man intelligence/ the Ham­burg Cell Jihadis. The Ham­burg Cell also fre­quent­ed an extrem­ist mosque in Munich.

Once the 9/11 oper­a­tion was under­way, Ger­man intel­li­gence cleaned house. The “NSU” van­ished for 2 years just a lit­tle over a week before 9/11, with no more linked mur­ders in that 2 year peri­od. Repeat — the last mur­der was just over a week before 9/11, whilst one mur­der was Ham­burg and one was Munich. If the NSU mur­ders were nor­mal far right extrem­ists send­ing a mes­sage to asy­lum seek­ers, where’s the mes­sage? There was none.

So, then two and a half years lat­er in Ros­tock-Toiten­winkel, 25 Feb­ru­ary 2004, between 10:10 and 10:20, Mehmet Turgut was shot three times in the head and neck with a silenced CZ 83 and died instan­ta­neous­ly. Turgut, who had been liv­ing ille­gal­ly in Ham­burg, was in Ros­tock on a vis­it and had been asked by an acquain­tance to open up a don­er kebab shop that day. He was clear­ly tar­get­ed and enticed to be there that day and time. That is NOT a ran­dom far right killing.

Because of Turgut’s link to Ham­burg, Ros­tock police made the con­nec­tion to the third vic­tim, Süley­man Taşköprü, thus estab­lish­ing the term don­er mur­ders. 

On 6 April 2006, just two days after the mur­der of Mehmet Kubaşık, Halit Yoz­gat became the last vic­tim of the mur­der series. Yoz­gat, who ran an inter­net café in Kas­sel, Hesse, was also shot in the head with a silenced gun. On the occa­sion of this mur­der an agent of the Hes­s­ian Office for the BfV Pro­tec­tion of the Con­sti­tu­tion was present. The agent claimed first to have left the premis­es short­ly before the mur­der, but lat­er changed his state­ment when pre­sent­ed with evi­dence of wit­ness­es who had seen him present when the mur­der hap­pened. His involve­ment with the case gave rise to sus­pi­cions that a Ger­man agency might be linked to the mur­ders.

When this BfV offi­cer was inves­ti­gat­ed, var­i­ous Nazi para­pher­na­lia was present in his apart­ment, includ­ing some doc­u­ments from the Third Reich, though it is not pub­licly known what these docs referred to. Is he real­ly a Nazi, or is that being used to make out he is an extrem­ist infil­tra­tor of Ger­man intel­li­gence — that he was linked to the mur­der through his Nazi affil­i­ates, rather than being present at the mur­der BECAUSE he was work­ing for Ger­man intel­li­gence??

Either way, it looks an awful lot like these mur­ders are Ger­man intel­li­gence clean­ing house, and the places and dates may sug­gest it is because the mur­der vic­tims were involved in the organisation/recruitment/planning of 9/11 with the Ham­burg Cell — know­ing­ly or unknow­ing­ly (think­ing they were doing their duty for Ger­man intel­li­gence?).

On 25 April 2007 Police offi­cer Michèle Kiesewet­ter and her duty-part­ner were attacked dur­ing their lunch break. Kiesewet­ter was killed and her part­ner was crit­i­cal­ly wound­ed but sur­vived with no mem­o­ry of the attack (of course). While in the oth­er cas­es the motive is assumed to be xeno­pho­bia and/or racism, it is unclear why Kiesewet­ter and her part­ner were attacked; the­o­ries include a vari­ety of motives, such as a per­son­al link between Kiesewet­ter and the alleged per­pe­tra­tors who all came from Thuringia, or the acqui­si­tion of firearms. The duty-pis­tols of Kiesewet­ter and her part­ner were found on 4 Novem­ber 2011 at the car­a­van where Böhn­hardt and Mund­los were sui­cid­ed, giv­ing rise to the belief that this attack was linked to the NSU.

Of course, its more like­ly that as the motive in the Police mur­der was not xeno­pho­bia, the pre­vi­ous mur­ders were not either. In which case, did these cops stum­ble on some­thing they should­n’t have in a seem­ing­ly unre­lat­ed inves­ti­ga­tion?

They had to be silenced.

The whole way through, this has been cov­ered up, until Beate is the last woman stand­ing, with every­one else dead or suf­fer­ing amne­sia. This is clas­sic house clean­ing, and Ger­man intel­li­gence have tak­en such a risk with it, that it can only be cov­er­ing some­thing mas­sive — like the Ham­burg Cell link back to Ger­man intel­li­gence.

Could these peo­ple have sup­plied evi­dence point­ing at Ger­many being the hand behind 9/11?