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COMMENT: There is an old expression; “A lie can travel half-way around the world before the truth can put its boots on.” In light of recent events, we might update that to present context–“A lie can run a marathon before the truth can put its running shoes on.”

The news cycle in this country is dominated by coverage of the Boston bombings. This is predictable. So is the tendency toward simplistic and/or one-dimensional analysis.

We’ve already heard the usual suspects with “The Gummint Did It!” 

Or “The Muslims did it!” (“with an assist from the Islamist/Marxist/homosexual from Kenya, Obama”)

Or might it actually have been “right-wingers’? (No such thing as a “fascist” in contemporary American journalistic lexicon.)

Generally, we’re hearing: It was the “government,” “home-grown domestic (i.e. right-wing, Aryan types) terrorists,” or “Islamic terrorists.” As links below will indicate, the divisions among these are not nearly so simple.

For the record, we offer this caveat: we have more questions than answers and suspect there is more to this story than we have learned so far, or may ever learn. It is not surprising that the two suspects are deemed to be part of  a terror cell.

We also note that one of the alleged perpetrators appears to have been a “truther.” This doesn’t surprise us in the least.

Jared Loughner (the apparent shooter of Rep. Giffords and others) appears to have been influenced by that particular “fertilizer bomb” as well. 

“The Mind of a Terror Suspect” by Charles M. Blow; The New York Times; 4/19/2013.

EXCERPT: . . . . His politics seemed jumbled. He was apparently a 9/11 Truther, posting a tweet on Sept. 1 that read in part, “Idk why it’s hard for many of you to accept that 9/11 was an inside job.”  . . .

COMMENT: In the context of the identification of two Muslims from Chechnya as the alleged culprits:

  • As discussed in FTR #710, elements of U.S. intelligence have backed the Chechen rebels.
  • As discussed in FTR #381, among the vehicles of support for the Chechens has been the milieu of the Bank al-Taqwa.
  • As discussed in FTR #343, the al-Taqwa milieu has links to Third Reich alumni such as Youssef Nada and Francois Genoud.
  • As discussed in FTR #498 & 499, al-Taqwa director Achmed Huber has served as something of a liaison person between Islamists and American and European neo-fascists.
  • As discussed in FTR #457, an Aryan Nations associate and former Green Beret was allegedly providing logistical assistance to Mohamed Atta and company on 9/11/2001.
  • As discussed in FTR #538, followed in another direction, the al-Taqwa milieu leads in the direction of the innermost sanctum of the GOP and the Bush administration.
  • As discussed in FTR #356, the al-Taqwa milieu was in the investigative crosshairs following the Operation Green Quest raids of 3/20/2002. The badly-attenuated investigation led directly to–among others–Talat Othman, director of Harken Energy and friend and political adviser to both Georges Bush, Karl Rove (the most important member of the GOP) and Grover Norquist, the number one lobbyist for the right-wing/GOP and chief wielder of the brutal, thoroughly-discredited “austerity” Sword of Damocles (made in Germany).
  • As discussed in FTR #583, among the vehicles used to fund the Chechen rebels is Islamic Relief, the American branch of which is administered by Kazbek Zoobzokov, the son of SS officer Tscherim Zoobzokov, of the SS and later the CIA.
  • Another avenue of support comes from Mabel Smits, married to a member of the Dutch royal family, itself intimately linked to the Third Reich and its underground extension.
  • As discussed in FTR #414, the Chechen rebels are the successors to the Waffengruppe SS Krim, an Islamic Waffen SS unit composed of Muslims from Chechnya.
  • As discussed in FTR #443, Turner Diaries author William Pierce directly foreshadowed the 9/11 attacks and the anthrax attacks years before they occurred. The climactic episode of The Turner Diaries is a low-level suicide aerial attack on the Pentagon, which occurs on November 9th, the German “Day of Destiny” (written “9/11” by a European).
  • As discussed in FTR #674, Aryan Nations associate Bob Whitaker played a primary role in obtaining security clearances for personnel in the Reagan administration.
  • As discussed in FTR #330, there are evidentiary tributaries connecting many of the major terrorist incidents of the 1990’s and the first decade of this century.
  • The suspicion in these quarters concerns possible double/triple agents. A number of analysts have suggested this already. 

Discussion

14 comments for “A Lie Can Run a Marathon Before the Truth Can Put Its Running Shoes on: (“Truther” Consequences)”

  1. For those who haven’t chased the links yet, here’s a few good ones:

    The FBI website (hey, I wasn’t afraid to go there) and exact language about the investigation of Tamerlan:

    http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/2011-request-for-information-on-tamerlan-tsarnaev-from-foreign-government

    (snip)
    “Once the FBI learned the identities of the two brothers today, the FBI reviewed its records and determined that in early 2011, a foreign government asked the FBI for information about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The request stated that it was based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.

    In response to this 2011 request, the FBI checked U.S. government databases and other information to look for such things as derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest, travel history and plans, and education history. The FBI also interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev and family members. The FBI did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011. The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from the foreign government.”
    —————–

    A spokesman on “Meet The Press” Sunday said the FBI dropped the investigation due to no significant threat. That clearly contradicts the parents who say that there was repeated FBI contact for at least 3 years:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/20/bombing-suspects-mother-fbi-monitored-older-son-at-every-step/

    “One of the two men suspected of being behind the Boston Marathon bombings was under FBI surveillance as a suspected “extremist” for at least three years, according to his parents.

    As questions were raised about how well known Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were to federal investigators, their mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, said that the FBI had spoken to the family regularly: “They were telling me that Tamerlan was really an extremist leader and they were afraid of him. They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremists’ sites.” She added that the police were monitoring her son “at every step”.
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    “Russia Today” has an interview with former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds

    http://rt.com/op-edge/boston-suspect-russia-chechnya-154/

    (snip)
    “Sibel Edmonds: Actually, we predicted that the unnamed foreign country [Western media didn’t name the source immediately] was in fact Russia, two days ago. We have too little facts, too much false information and speculations. But just look at the period they are talking about. When you listen to the suspect’s mother, she’s talking about a period of three to five years. According to FBI officials, they received this information, this warning, in 2011. So we have that inconsistency right there. The other important inconsistency that we should pay attention to is the mother’s description of FBI mannerisms and conversation with the suspects and the family when they were visiting them for the last three to five years. That fits exactly the recruitment style of the intelligence community. When you go to the suspects, and one moment you’re saying “We know you’re decent, we know you’re doing nothing wrong, we know you’re good”, and the next minute they’re saying “You can be dangerous”, right after receiving that information from the Russian government, to threaten them with that information for what purpose – to recruit them as informants or for other agendas.”
    (snip)
    “So, if you start putting these in context and also add the fact that Russia has been the biggest obstacle for the United States to get in and directly attack Syria – that’s when you start to see the bigger picture and that’s what the people should be paying attention to. And as far as the perception, up until recently you had individuals like Bolton, Armitage… in a group called The Friends of Chechnya, and they have been around for a while. Again, the false information that is being put forth by US media is that since the fall of the Soviet Union the United States has refrained from intervening in the Russia-Chechnya situation. And that is purely false. Since mid-1990’s, the US directly, or through Turkey has been arming, training, managing, orchestrating not only Chechens but also other factions in the region – and we are looking at Central Asia and the Caucasus. And of course the Russian government is fully aware of this.”
    ———————–

    Here’s an excellent article from “The Guardian” in 2004 about the Neo-cons arming Chechen fighters:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/08/usa.russia

    (snip)
    “By the same token, the BBC and other media sources are putting it about that Russian TV played down the Beslan crisis, while only western channels reported live, the implication being that Putin’s Russia remains a highly controlled police state. But this view of the Russian media is precisely the opposite of the impression I gained while watching both CNN and Russian TV over the past week: the Russian channels had far better information and images from Beslan than their western competitors. This harshness towards Putin is perhaps explained by the fact that, in the US, the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled “distinguished Americans” who are its members is a rollcall of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusastically support the “war on terror”.

    They include Richard Perle, the notorious Pentagon adviser; Elliott Abrams of Iran-Contra fame; Kenneth Adelman, the former US ambassador to the UN who egged on the invasion of Iraq by predicting it would be “a cakewalk”; Midge Decter, biographer of Donald Rumsfeld and a director of the rightwing Heritage Foundation; Frank Gaffney of the militarist Centre for Security Policy; Bruce Jackson, former US military intelligence officer and one-time vice-president of Lockheed Martin, now president of the US Committee on Nato; Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, a former admirer of Italian fascism and now a leading proponent of regime change in Iran; and R James Woolsey, the former CIA director who is one of the leading cheerleaders behind George Bush’s plans to re-model the Muslim world along pro-US lines.

    The ACPC heavily promotes the idea that the Chechen rebellion shows the undemocratic nature of Putin’s Russia, and cultivates support for the Chechen cause by emphasising the seriousness of human rights violations in the tiny Caucasian republic. It compares the Chechen crisis to those other fashionable “Muslim” causes, Bosnia and Kosovo – implying that only international intervention in the Caucasus can stabilise the situation there.”
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    A screen grab of Twitter, not sure of the authenticity but here’s what it says:

    https://twitter.com/J_tsar

    Jahar ‏@J_tsar 16 Apr
    @therealAbdul_ #heavy I’ve been looking for those, there is a shortage on the black market if you wanna make a quick buck, nuff said..
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    And let’s add this to the mix- one cell of a Russian spy ring was operating out of Boston:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/29/nation/la-na-russian-agents-lives-20100630

    (snip)
    “One suspect wrote columns for a Spanish-language newspaper in New York. Another ran an international consulting and management firm in Boston, while his wife sold high-priced real estate near Harvard University. Yet another drove a shiny blue BMW to his investment banking job in Seattle; he regularly updated his status on LinkedIn, a social networking site.
    (snip)
    Donald Howard Heathfield and Tracey Lee Ann Foley, the alleged spies in Boston, filed regular expense reports to Moscow Center, headquarters for Russia’s foreign intelligence agency, called the SVR.
    “Got from Ctr. 64500 dollars, income 13940, interest 76. Expenses: rent 8500, utilities 142, tel. 160, car lease 2180, insurance 432, gas 820, education 3600,” plus medical, lawyers’ fees, meals and gifts, mailboxes, computer supplies, and so on, they wrote in one, according to an FBI affidavit.”
    ———————

    Alleged bombers
    FBI “handlers”
    Chechen heritage
    Neo-con arming of Chechen fighters
    Black Market Twitter talk
    Russian spy ring operating in Boston

    Mix and stir.
    —————

    One thing is for sure; Russia’s Putin will likely have renewed public sentiment on his side in his campaign against Chechen fighters.

    Posted by Swamp | April 22, 2013, 7:54 am
  2. Daniel Hopsicker has a new post about the Tsarnaev brothers’ family. It sounds like they come from a well “connected” clan.

    And now we’re learning that authorities are looking into whether or not Tamerlan Tsarnaev was involved with a triple-murder that took place on September 11, 2011. The three victims were all associates of Tsarnaev through his mixed-martial arts gym. Police discovered drugs (pot) and thousands of dollars on top of the bodies so it’s difficult to infer a motive even if we assume it was Tsarnaev that committed the murders. The article speculates that his gym-friend was selling pot to Tamerlan’s pot-head younger brother and this provoked the killings. Who knows, but if Tsarnaev was involved with those murders and there really was a drugs/money angle to the killings, it’s worth noting that discovering that an apparent Islamist is involved with associates in the drug trade isn’t exactly unprecedented.

    The murders would have been a few months before Tamerlan’s trip to Russia. You have to wonder what exactly any putative master planners would have been hoping to achieve? Were they going to eventually claim responsibility after the two were extracted from the area? Or was no one ever going to find out who did it or why? If this was a planned attack by a Chechen group it was just unusual by being a Chechen attack against the US it’s also unusual because al-Qaeda Islamist militants normally take credit for an attack. Otherwise, what’s the point? Is al-Qaeda progressing to Joker-like meta-terror? Terror for terror’s sake? There’s so much evidence pointing towards outside help, but the plan itself just didn’t make that much sense. One possibility is that it’s also intended to send a message to Russia about the 2014 Olympic games. But if so, that’s quite an aggressive posture by the Chechen group given that one would have already expected the Russian government to take an intentionally extra-harsh stance against the Chechen groups as security becomes a top Russian priority. This is definitely an oddly aggressive terrorist attack that’s difficult to interpret.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | April 22, 2013, 11:37 pm
  3. It looks like investigators are zeroing in on the primary radicalizing influence in the older brother’s life: a mysterious friend name Misha that taught him all about religion. An interest in Infowars.com and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was also developing during this period:

    Boston Bombing Suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev Influenced By Mysterious Radical
    ADAM GOLDMAN, ERIC TUCKER & MATT APUZZO April 23, 2013, 4:49 PM

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In the years before the Boston Marathon bombings, Tamerlan Tsarnaev fell under the influence of a new friend, a Muslim convert who steered the religiously apathetic young man toward a strict strain of Islam, family members said.

    Under the tutelage of a friend known to the Tsarnaev family only as Misha, Tamerlan gave up boxing and stopped studying music, his family said. He began opposing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He turned to websites and literature claiming that the CIA was behind the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and Jews controlled the world.

    “Somehow, he just took his brain,” said Tamerlan’s uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, who recalled conversations with Tamerlan’s worried father about Misha’s influence. Efforts over several days by The Associated Press to identify and interview Misha have been unsuccessful.

    Tamerlan’s relationship with Misha could be a clue in understanding the motives behind his religious transformation and, ultimately, the attack itself. Two U.S. officials say he had no tie to terrorist groups.

    Throughout his religious makeover, Tamerlan maintained a strong influence over his siblings, including Dzhokhar, who investigators say carried out the deadly attack by his older brother’s side, killing three and injuring 264 people.

    Based on preliminary written interviews with Dzhokar in his hospital bed, U.S. officials believe the brothers were motivated by their religious views. It has not been clear, however, what those views were.

    As authorities try to piece together that information, they are touching on a question asked after so many terrorist plots: What turns someone into a terrorist?

    The brothers emigrated in 2002 or 2003 from Dagestan, a Russian republic that has become an epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from the region of Chechnya.

    They were raised in a home that followed Sunni Islam, the religion’s largest sect. They were not regulars at the mosque and rarely discussed religion, Khozhugov said.

    Then, in 2008 or 2009, Tamerlan met Misha, a slightly older, heavyset bald man with a long reddish beard. Khozhugov didn’t know where they’d met but believed they attended a Boston-area mosque together. Misha was an Armenian native and a convert to Islam and quickly began influencing his new friend, family members said.

    Tamerlan loved music and, a few years ago, he sent Khozhugov a song he’d composed in English and Russian. He said he was about to start music school.

    Six weeks later, the two men spoke on the phone. Khozhugov asked how school was going.

    “I quit,” Tamerlan said.

    “Why did you quit?” Khozhugov asked. “You just started.”

    “Music is not really supported in Islam,” he replied.

    “Who told you that?”

    “Misha said it’s not really good to create music. It’s not really good to listen to music,” Tamerlan said, according to Khozhugov.

    Tamerlan took an interest in Infowars, a conspiracy theory website. Khozhugov said Tamerlan was interested in finding a copy of “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,” a piece of anti-Semitic literature claiming a Jewish plot to take over the world.

    “He never said he hated America or he hated the Jews,” Khozhugov said. “But he was fairly aggressive toward the policies of the U.S. toward countries with Muslim populations. He disliked the wars.”

    And here’s an article on the Cambridge mosque Tamerlan attended where he presumably met Misha and its sister mosque in Boston. The Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge is Abdurahman Alamoudi’s old mosque. It’s current managed by the Muslim Brotherhood’s “Muslim American Society” and the FBI has partnered with the mosque for years to engage in outreach programs. It also sounds like there have been a number of invited speakers in the past that would be likely to share Misha’s views on music:

    Mosque that Boston suspects attended has radical ties
    Oren Dorell, USA TODAY4:57 p.m. EDT April 23, 2013

    Terror suspects, fugitives and radical speakers have passed through the Cambridge mosque that the Tsarnaev brothers are known to have visited.

    BOSTON — The mosque attended by the two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bombing has been associated with other terrorist suspects, has invited radical speakers to a sister mosque in Boston and is affiliated with a Muslim group that critics say nurses grievances that can lead to extremism.

    Several people who attended the Islamic Society of Boston mosque in Cambridge, Mass., have been investigated for Islamic terrorism, including a conviction of the mosque’s first president, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, in connection with an assassination plot against a Saudi prince.

    And its sister mosque in Boston, known as the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, has invited guests who have defended terror suspects. A former trustee appears in a series of videos in which he advocates treating gays as criminals, says husbands should sometimes beat their wives and calls on Allah (God) to kill Zionists and Jews, according to Americans for Peace and Tolerance, an interfaith group that has investigated the mosques.

    The head of the group is among critics who say the mosques teach a brand of Islamic thought that encourages grievances against the West, distrust of law enforcement and opposition to Western forms of government, dress and social values.

    “We don’t know where these boys were radicalized,” says the head of the group, Charles Jacobs. “But this mosque has a curriculum that radicalizes people. Other people have been radicalized there.”

    Yusufi Vali, executive director at the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, insists his mosque does not spread radical ideology and cannot be blamed for the acts of a few worshipers.

    “If there were really any worry about us being extreme,” Vali said, U.S. law enforcement agencies such as the FBI and Departments of Justice and Homeland Security would not partner with the Muslim American Society and the Boston mosque in conducting monthly meetings that have been ongoing for four years, he said, in an apparent reference to U.S. government outreach programs in the Muslim community.

    The Cambridge and Boston mosques, separated by the Charles River, are owned by the same entity but managed individually. The imam of the Cambridge mosque, Sheik Basyouny Nehela, is on the board of directors of the Boston mosque.

    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, attended the Cambridge mosque for services and are accused of setting two bombs that killed three people and injured at least 264 others at the April 15 Boston Marathon.

    The FBI has not indicated that either mosque was involved in any criminal activity. But mosque attendees and officials have been implicated in terrorist activity.

    • Abdulrahman Alamoudi, who signed the articles of incorporation as the Cambridge mosque’s president, was sentenced to 23 years in federal court in Alexandria, Va., in 2004 for his role as a facilitator in what federal prosecutors called a Libyan assassination plot against then-Saudi crown prince Abdullah. Abdullah is now the Saudi king.

    • Aafia Siddiqui, who occasionally prayed at the Cambridge mosque, was arrested in Afghanistan in 2008 while in possession of cyanide canisters and plans for a chemical attack in New York City. She tried to grab a rifle while in detention and shot at military officers and FBI agents, for which she was convicted in New York in 2010 and is serving an 86-year sentence.

    • Tarek Mehanna, who worshiped at the Cambridge mosque, was sentenced in 2012 to 17 years in prison for conspiring to aid al-Qaeda. Mehanna had traveled to Yemen to seek terrorist training and plotted to use automatic weapons to shoot up a mall in the Boston suburbs, federal investigators in Boston alleged.

    • Ahmad Abousamra, the son of a former vice president of the Muslim American Society Boston Abdul-Badi Abousamra, was identified by the FBI as Mehanna’s co-conspirator. He fled to Syria and is wanted by the FBI on charges of providing support to terrorists and conspiracy to kill Americans in a foreign country.

    • Jamal Badawi of Canada, a former trustee of the Islamic Society of Boston Trust, which owns both mosques, was named as a non-indicted co-conspirator in the 2007 Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial in Texas over the funneling of money to Hamas, which is the Palestinian wing of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    What both mosques have in common is an affiliation with the Muslim American Society, an organization founded in 1993 that describes itself as an American Islamic revival movement. It has also been described by federal prosecutors in court as the “overt arm” of the Muslim Brotherhood, which calls for Islamic law and is the parent organization of Hamas, a U.S.-designated terror group.

    Critics say the Muslim American Society promotes a fraught relationship with the United States, expressed in part by the pattern discussed by Americans for Progress and Tolerance in which adherents are made to feel cut off from their home country and to identify with a global Islamist political community rather than with America.

    Zhudi Jasser, president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, says the radical teachings often follow a theme of recitation of grievances that Islam has with the West, advocacy against U.S. foreign policy and terrorist prosecutions, and efforts “to evangelize Islam in order to improve Western society that is secularized,” he says.

    Jasser, a veteran of the U.S. Navy and author of the 2012 book A Battle for the Soul of Islam: An American Muslim Patriot Fights to Save His Faith, says the teachings make some followers feel “like their national identity is completely absent and hollow, and that vacuum can be filled by (radical) Islamic ideology, which is supremacist and looks upon the West as evil.”

    The Cambridge mosque was founded in 1982 by students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard and several other Boston-area schools, according to a profile by the Pluralism Project at Harvard University. Its members founded the sister mosque in Boston in 2009.

    The leadership of the two mosques is intertwined and the ideology they teach is the same, Jacobs says. Ilya Feoktistov, director of research at Americans for Peace and Tolerance, says much of the money to create the Boston mosque came not from local Muslims but from foreign sources.

    More than half of the $15.5 million used to found the Boston mosque came from Saudi sources, Feoktistov said, who cites financial documents that Jacobs’ group obtained when the mosque sued it for defamation. The lawsuit was later dropped.

    But Vali said the vast majority of total donors were in the United States and that “no donations were accepted if the donor wanted to have any decision-making influence (even if benign).”

    Vali characterized Americans for Peace and Tolerance and its founder, Jacobs, as anti-Muslim activists who spread “lies and half-truths in order to attack and marginalize much of the local Muslim community and many of its institutions.”

    “It’s the new McCarthyism in full swing,” he said.

    Sheik Basyouny Nehela, the imam of the Cambridge mosque, which is located across the Charles River from Boston, is on the board of directors for the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the Boston mosque. The Tsarnaevs attended the Cambridge mosque.

    A statement issued by the Cambridge mosque say the Tsarnaev brothers were “occasional visitors” and the mosque’s office manager, Nichole Mossalam, said neither brother expressed radical views. “They never exhibited any violent sentiments or behaviors. Otherwise, they would have been reported,” Mossalam said.

    The Cambridge mosque says Tsarnaev, 26, who died Thursday night in a shootout with police, “disagreed with the moderate American-Islamic theology” of the mosque. Tsarnaev challenged an imam who said in his sermon that it was appropriate to celebrate U.S. national holidays and was told to stop such outbursts, the mosque said in a statement.

    Talal Eid, a Muslim chaplain at Brandeis University, says focusing on individual radicals that prayed in a building is unfair.

    “In 2011, the two brothers were right under the nose of the FBI and they didn’t find anything,” Eid said, who never met the Tsarnaevs. “How do you want me as an imam to know enough to tell them they are not welcome here? How can I figure out those people have that kind of criminal intent?”

    The Muslim American Society says on its website that it is independent of the Muslim Brotherhood. However, early Brotherhood literature is considered “the foundational texts for the intellectual component for Islamic work in America,” the website states.

    Jacobs says claims of moderate Islam do not square with the mosque’s classic jihadi texts in its library and its hosting of radical speakers.

    Jacobs said Ahmed Mansour, his co-director at Americans for Peace and Tolerance, found writings by Syed Qutb, the former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and other jihadi texts at the Cambridge mosque’s library when Mansour went there in 2003. Qutb pioneered the radical violent ideology espoused by al-Qaeda.

    Yusuf al Qaradawi, the Muslim Brotherhood spiritual leader who espouses radical views in videos collected by Jacobs’ group, was listed as a trustee on the Cambridge mosque’s IRS filings until 2000, and on the mosque’s website until 2003, when he addressed congregants via recorded video message to raise money for the Boston mosque, according to a screenshot of the announcement that Feoktistov provided.

    But Vali said Qaradawi was listed as an honorary trustee years ago only because his scholarship and high esteem in Muslim circles would help with fundraising.

    Yasir Qadhi, who lectured at the Boston mosque in April 2009, has advocated replacing U.S. democracy with Islamic rule and called Christians “filthy” polytheists whose “life and prosperity … holds no value in the state of Jihad,” according to a video obtained by Jacobs’ group.

    Vali said Qadhi was a guest of a non-profit that was renting space at the Boston mosque and changed his views since that video was made.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | April 23, 2013, 2:24 pm
  4. Oh wow, according to a 4/19 posting of nn Alex Jones video that NH state representative posted on on Glenn Beck’s Facebook wall John Kerry was actually involved with planning the Boston Marathon bombings! But don’t worry too much about further terrorist plots coming from the Secretary of State’s office. The fact that state representatives are posting Alex Jones videos on Glenn Beck’s Facebook wall strongly indicates that the terrorists have already won

    NH State Rep. Suggests Boston Bombing Was ‘False Flag’ Conspiracy
    Benjy Sarlin 4:49 PM EDT, Tuesday April 23, 2013

    A Republican state representative in New Hampshire posted a video by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones on Facebook last week suggesting the Boston marathon bombing was a “false flag” operation carried out by the US government.

    Rep. Stella Temblay (R), a member of the state’s 400-person House of Representatives, posted the video on Glenn Beck’s Facebook page on April 19 with an accompanying message:

    Just as you said would happen. Top Down, Bottom UP. The Boston Marathon was a Black Ops “terrorist” attack. One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak. Drones and now “terrorist” attacks by our own Government. Sad day, but a “wake up” to all of us. First there was a “suspect” then there wasnt. Infowars broke the story and they knew they had been “found out”

    Reached by phone, Temblay told the local Foster’s Daily Democrat that she had suspicions of some kind of plot involving Secretary of State John Kerry, Saudi nationals, and “black ops” soldiers at the scene of the marathon. Several of these elements have popped up both in Jones’ work and various Internet fever swamps since the bombing.

    Officials told the Washington Post on Tuesday that Djokhar Tsarnaev confessed to carrying out the attacks in tandem with his brother, telling authorities they were upset with American foreign policy towards the Middle East.

    Temblay has a history of spreading conspiracy theories. Last year she e-mailed out a video claiming President Obama was not a citizen, according to the Huffington Post, promptiong a Democratic colleague to label her “an embarassment to us as a chamber.”

    Since it’s probably safe to say that this state representative is a big fan of Rand Paul and she appears to have so heightened concerns over the US’s drone policies, someone had better warn her to avoid googling “drones + Rand Paul” for the next week or so:

    Now Rand Paul Thinks It’s OK To Kill U.S. Citizens With Drones On American Soil?
    by Matt Wilstein | 12:41 pm, April 23rd, 2013

    Remember when Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) stood up on the Senate floor for nearly 13 hours in an ideological protest of the Obama administration’s hypothetical authority to use drone technology to kill U.S. citizens on American soil? Well, now he’s saying killing a certain U.S. citizen on some specific American soil in Watertown, Massachusetts last Friday may not have been the worst thing in the world.

    During an interview with Neil Cavuto on Fox Business Network Monday night, Paul attempted to make a distinction between the American “sitting in a café” example he has often cited and the “imminent threat” faced by Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Friday night. “I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on,” Paul said. Though his next example offered up a disturbingly low bar for the predator drone option. “If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash,” he said, “I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.

    “It’s different,” Paul continued, “if they want to come fly over your hot tub or your yard
    just because they want to do surveillance on everyone and watch your activities.” But again, he added, “if there’s killer on the loose in a neighborhood, I’m not against drones being used.”

    Paul’s comments in light of the Boston suspect’s arrest are a far cry from his staunchly anti-drone stance just last month. At the very beginning of his filibuster, Paul delivered the words below, which appear to directly contradict his statements from last night.

    “I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | April 23, 2013, 6:17 pm
  5. It looks like Russian concerns in 2011 over Tamerlan’s Islamist interests were shared by the CIA

    Washington Post
    CIA sought to have Boston bombing suspect put on terrorist watch list

    By Greg Miller and Sari Horwitz, Updated: Wednesday, April 24, 3:14 PM

    The CIA asked the main U.S. counterterrorism agency to add the name of one of the suspected Boston Marathon bombers to a watch list more than a year before the attack, according to U.S. officials.

    The agency took the step after Russian authorities contacted officials there in the fall of 2011 and raised concerns that Tamerlan Tsarnaev — who was killed last week in a confrontation with police — was seen as an increasingly radical Islamist and could be planning to travel overseas. The CIA requested that his name be put on a database maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center.

    That database, the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, or TIDE, is a data storehouse that feeds a series of government watch lists, including the FBI’s main Terrorist Screening Database and the Transportation Security Administration’s “no-fly” list.

    Officials said Tsarnaev’s name was added to the database but it’s unclear which agency added it.

    The CIA’s request came months after the FBI had closed a preliminary inquiry into Tsarnaev after getting a similar inquiry about him from Russian state security, according to officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

    Law enforcement officials said that the request to the FBI in 2011 originated from fears by the Russian government that Tamerlan was a threat to Russia and would commit a terrorist act in Russia — not the United States. The request came from Russian federal police to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow.

    “There was a concern he might have some kind of ties to terrorism,” said FBI spokesman Paul Bresson. “We did everything legally that we could do with the little bit of information we had. After we did, we found no derogatory information.”

    The FBI gets hundreds of similar requests a year from foreign governments, said a law enforcement official. The findings were reported back to Russia and Russian authorities were asked if they had any more information for the United States to investigate about Tamerlan and they did not.

    “They were satisfied,” said the official. “We had checked on their information. And no further information was provided.”

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | April 24, 2013, 1:46 pm
  6. Looks like they are whittling away at more suspects:

    Report: FBI shoots and kills man in Florida connected to Marathon bombing suspect
    By Arturo Garcia
    Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:34 EDT

    Federal agents shot and killed a man linked to one of the suspects in the April 15 Boston Marathon bombing attack after “something went wrong” during questioning, CBS News reported Wednesday morning.

    The Federal Bureau of Investigation visited the man, identified by CBS and an Orlando news outlet as 26-year-old Chechnyan national Ibragim Todashev, early Wednesday morning. WKMG-TV reported that Todashev was being observed by the Bureau because of a past association with Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing case who was killed in a firefight with police on April 19.

    CBS News senior correspondent John Miller reported that “something went wrong” while Todashev was being interviewed by agents. The Associated Press reported on Twitter that he became violent during questioning.

    In a statement released to Miller, the FBI confirmed that there was a shooting involving an agent who “encountered the suspect while conducting official duties” in Orlando, but offered no further details.

    “Back when [Todashev] used to live in Boston, they used to hang out. Not hang out — he knew him,” a friend of Todashev’s, Khusen Taramov, told WKMG. “They met a few times, because [Todashev] was a MMA fighter and [Tsarnaev] was a boxer. They just knew each other. That’s it.”

    Miller reported that Todashev and other residents of his apartment complex were questioned by authorities, but that Todashev was under more observation because he visited Tsarnaev in Boston and at one point planned to travel to Chechnya.

    “He had a ticket to New York. From there, he was going to go home,” Taramov said to WKMG, adding that the Bureau was “pushing him to stay, saying, ‘We want to interview one last time.’”

    Tsarnaev’s brother, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is in federal custody after being arrested in Watertown, Massachusetts, on April 20.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/22/report-fbi-shoots-and-kills-man-in-florida-connected-to-marathon-bombing-suspect/

    —————————–

    Lots of fighters involved in this Boston bombing case.

    Tamerlan was a boxer who trained at MMA gyms.

    The guys that were killed with a knife with drugs dumped on them also trained at a MMA gym.

    Now this other Chechen MMA fighter is shot by an FBI agent.

    Here’s another version of the story:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/22/fbi-boston-bombing-killed-orlando/2350065/

    “The FBI agent was taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

    The victim, an ethnic Chechen, was an acquaintance of bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, according to a friend, Khusn Taramiv, who spoke to WESH-TV.

    Taramiv said his friend knew Tsarnaev because they were both interested in martial arts.”

    *
    “Tamariv told WESH-TV that he and the victim were questioned for about three hours by the FBI on Tuesday and that agents then wanted to interview Todashev alone.

    “They told me they’re going to bring him back,” Taramiv said. “They never brought him back. He felt inside he was going to get shot.”

    He also said FBI agents had been following him and Todashev for several days.

    Todashev was arrested by Orlando police on May 4 on charges of aggravated battery in connection with a fight in a parking lot.”
    —————–

    “He felt inside he was going to get shot”

    Hmmm.
    It would take a hell of a lot for an FBI agent to draw on a potential suspect that may have valuable information.
    -Or maybe this was a “mop-up” operation.

    Posted by Swamp | May 22, 2013, 7:11 am
  7. I’ve been spending some time looking at all the conspiracy sites on the Boston bombings, while most of them are out there, one valid point that did come up regards the second explosion. There was a complete derth of reporting on this event, even though there was plenty for the finish line explosion, not 200 yards away.

    Posted by Chris | May 23, 2013, 8:09 am
  8. Now it appears that there were also two Mass. State Troopers present when Todashev was shot:

    http://nation.time.com/2013/05/22/fbi-agent-fatally-shoots-man-in-orlando/


    Todashev, a 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter, was fatally shot early Wednesday at his Orlando home during a meeting with the agent and two Massachusetts state troopers, authorities said. The agent was taken to a hospital with injuries that were not life-threatening.

    Three law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said initially that Todashev had lunged at the FBI agent with a knife. However, two of those officials said later in the day it was no longer clear what had happened. The third official had not received any new information.”
    (snip)

    The FBI gave no details on why it was interested in Todashev except to say that he was being questioned as part of the Boston investigation. However, two officials briefed on the investigation said he had implicated himself as having been involved in the 2011 triple-slaying in a Boston suburb that authorities believe may have been connected to Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release details of the investigation.

    ***
    And from CNN:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/justice/florida-fbi-shooting-boston/index.html

    “Details emerged Wednesday about how Todashev had Tsarnaev’s phone number in his cell phone, said the source.

    Both men were members of the mixed martial arts forum Sherdog.com, along with Russian-Canadian boxer-turned-jihadist William Plotnikov, the source said.

    Last month, CNN reported that Plotnikov and six others died in a July 2012 firefight with Russian forces in the southwestern republic of Dagestan, while Tsarnaev was visiting the region, according to a source briefed on the investigation.”
    (snip)
    “Taramov said he himself was questioned by the FBI for three hours Tuesday night. Asked what he was asked, Taramov said, “Different kind of questions like ‘what do you think about bombings,’ ‘do you know these guys,’ blah blah blah, what is my views on certain stuff.”

    He said Todashev was not a radical. “He was just a Muslim. That was his mistake, I guess.”

    Taramov said his friend had told him he had a bad feeling about the direction the investigation was heading.

    “He felt like there’s going to be a setup … bad setup against him. Because he told me, ‘They are making up such crazy stuff, I don’t know … why they doing it. OK, I’m answering the questions, but they are still making up some, like, connections, some crazy stuff. I don’t know why they are doing it.’ ”

    ———————

    Now they don’t really know if there was a knife attack or not.
    Bullcrap.

    An FBI agent and two State Troopers can’t handle one guy?
    They would have had a written set of questions and answers and most likely had tape rolling. It sounds like the authorities are backing-and-filling.

    Michael Isakoff reported on MSNBC this morning that Todashev HAD NOT signed a confession.
    Perhaps it was the action of a desperate man who may have been involved in the Boston area knife killings, but this story is rotten.
    There is no apparant motive.

    Now we have the Canadian named Plotnikov thrown into the mix. Being on an internet forum is not close contact, but it looks like someone is trying to build the case.

    Posted by Swamp | May 23, 2013, 8:28 am
  9. @Swamp: And now it looks like investigators are backing away from any potentional Tamerlan/Plotnikov meeting during Tamerlan’s trip to Dagestan. Tamerlan apparently was palling around with a fellow that did end up joining a militant group and the two were seen leaving a Salafist mosque frequently which is notable given Ibragim Todashev’s father’s reported close relationship to the Sufi strongman Kadyrov. Investigators appear to be increasingly settling on the ‘lone wolf’ angle:

    No ‘Manifesto’ But New Clues to ‘Frustrated’ Boston Suspect: Sources
    ABC News
    By KIRIT RADIA (@KiritRadia_ABC)
    May 24, 2013
    MOSCOW

    Just over a month after Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed during a standoff with police, investigators said they have begun to piece together a picture of what he did during a six-month visit last year to Dagestan, a volatile region in southern Russia that is home to Tsarneav’s parents as well as a violent struggle with Islamist insurgency.

    American investigators believe Tsarnaev traveled to Dagestan seeking to make contact with militant groups, but for reasons that remain unclear, he was either unable or unwilling to join their ranks.

    As they peel back the layers of the man accused of working with his younger brother to set off a pair of bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon April 15, investigators said they are finding a frustrated young man who felt out of place in the United States.

    They said Tsarnaev appears to have been largely self-radicalized before arriving in Dagestan in search of a lifestyle that may not have met his expectations either, according to U.S. officials close to or briefed on the investigation. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    The officials described Tsarnaev as a typical lone wolf.

    While Tsarnaev’s radicalization appears to have deepened during his time in Dagestan, investigators have not found a particular contact there or a “manifesto,” on his computer or elsewhere that would explain why he and his younger brother Dzhokhar allegedly placed bombs at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, the officials said. Hours after Tamerlan was killed in the police shootout, Dzhokhar was apprehended and remains in custody.

    While officials stressed the investigation is still ongoing, they have also found no signs that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was affiliated with an international terror organization like al Qaeda. Similarly, they have found no evidence to suggest he was directed to strike the U.S. by anyone he met in Dagestan. They have not found any signs of suspicious contacts during Tsarnaev’s trips to visit his father’s family in Chechnya, which has also battled an Islamist insurgency, and probes into Tsarnaev’s father’s rumored ties to Chechen security officials have also not revealed anything of concern, the officials said.

    Tsarnev’s closest known militant contact in Dagestan appears to have been a young man named Mahmud Mansur Nidal, officials said. The two were often seen together leaving a Salafist mosque, popular with fighters, in Makhachkala.

    But while Nidal eventually went off to join a militant group — what locals call going “into the forest” — investigators say they have uncovered no evidence that Tsarnaev joined him. Nidal would eventually be killed in a police raid after returning to visit family.

    Tsarnaev had also been in touch over the internet with a Russian-Canadian convert to Islam and suspected militant named William Plotnikov, but officials say they have no evidence to suggest the two ever met in person. Contrary to previous reporting, investigators say they do not believe Tsarnaev dropped off the map after Plotnikov was killed by police in July, shortly before Tsarnaev left Russia to return to the United States.

    Investigators have also taken a hard look at Magomed Kartashov, Tsarnaev’s distant cousin and the founder and leader of a Islamist group called the Union of the Just. The group is anti-American and campaigns for the application of Sharia, or Islamic law.

    The cousins met several times during Tsarnaev’s stay in Dagestan. Kartashov’s lawyer, Patimat Abdullaeva, told ABC News by phone that the two did discuss religion, but she insisted Tsarnaev was the one with extremist views. Kartashov is in prison for an unrelated matter — waving an Islamist flag during a wedding procession — but his lawyer says Russian investigators have interviewed him there about his interactions with Tsarnaev.

    Magomed Magomedov, another member of Union for the Just, told ABC News he also saw Tsarnaev several times last year, at the mosque and around Makhachkala, but could not remember their discussions about religion. He described Tsarnaev as being aloof and out of place in Dagestan.

    “He was sticking out, it was obvious he is not local. He liked to draw attention with his expensive and fancy clothes. His haircut was something no one has seen before,” he said.

    That description matches the picture that investigators are painting of Tsarnaev. They said when Tsarnaev arrived in Dagestan, his flashy appearance and demeanor immediately set him apart.

    He also apparently drew attention to himself by claiming to know more about Islam than he really did. According to investigators, Tsarnaev would often recite things he had read or seen on the internet, often confusing those he was trying to impress.

    “He was driving people crazy,” one official said.

    The officials said he was not as strict a practitioner of Islam as he claimed to be.

    While his younger brother and alleged co-conspirator Dzhokhar has been described as the family pothead, one official said Tamerlan was also fond of marijuana, spending hours high on the couch in Massachusetts where he did not have a steady job.

    The FBI has met with Tsarnaev’s parents at least once. Officials said they are still planning to meet with nine or 10 other individuals, including with Tsarnaev’s extended family, childhood friends, and contacts at the mosque. Those meetings were described as “tying up loose ends” rather than suspicious leads.

    The American officials praised the unusual level of cooperation they’ve received from their Russian counterparts.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | May 24, 2013, 10:21 am
  10. Here’s an interesting take from a crime reporter:

    http://www.patriotledger.com/crime/x83398290/MATT-CONNOLLY-FBI-report-on-death-of-Ibragim-Todashev#axzz2UEKZEz8N

    Posted May 23, 2013 @ 12:40 PM
    MATT CONNOLLY: FBI report on death of Ibragim Todashev

    Read more: MATT CONNOLLY: FBI report on death of Ibragim Todashev – Quincy, MA – The Patriot Ledger

    At 5 p.m. Wednesday, Charles Bright, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Orlando office, made the following statement:”We regret to announce the death of Ibragim Todashev who died earlier today as a result of being shot three times by FBI Special Agent Rick O’Shea. The circumstances of this unfortunate incident are as follows.

    Since the identification of the Tsarnaev brothers as the terrorists in the Marathon Terrorist Attack the FBI has been questioning people associated with Tamerlan Tsarnaev. One of these persons was Ibragim Todashev who was known to be an associate of Tamerlan and lived with him in Boston. Since April 19, 2013, he has been questioned by the FBI seven times concerning his involvement in that attack. There has been no evidence connecting him with the attack.

    On Tuesday, May 21, 2013, two Massachusetts State Troopers, John Lucky and Paul Strong, arrived in Orlando along with FBI Special Agent Rick O’Shea. They were interested in interviewing him about the homicides of three men killed in Waltham Massachusetts, in 2011. They, by prearrangement with Mr. Todashev, met with him at his apartment in the Orlando housing complex where Mr. Todashev lived with his girlfriend, Anna Muschkovick. Accompanying those men were two FBI agents from the Orlando office, Nemo Puitovic and Barley Straight as well as two detectives from the Orlando police department, Gray Reddinton and Gary Tiami.

    They arrived at the location of Mr. Todashev at 10:00 p.m. The men and Mr. Todashev engaged in a conversation concerning his whereabouts when he was in Boston at the time of the Waltham homicides along with other questions about his relationship with Tamerlan Tsarnaev. During that discussion Mr. Todashev excused himself to go to the bathroom. Agent O’Shea followed him there and the other law enforcement officials remained in the living room.

    The bathroom was accessed through the main bedroom. Agent O’Shea said as soon as Mr. Todashev reached the bathroom, he turned around and attacked Agent O’Shea. Agent O’Shea was aware of Mr. Todashev’s background in martial arts and the attack was powerful and unexpected knocking Agent O’Shea onto the bed. There Agent O’Shea felt Mr. Todashev reaching for his FBI issued weapon and struggle occurred over its control. During that time, Agent O’Shea managed to keep control of the weapon and fired six shots into Mr. Todashev.

    The commotion caused by this struggle caused the other law enforcement officers to respond but the incident had ended by that time. This incident occurred at approximately 11:45 p.m. an hour and 45 minutes after the interview with Mr. Todashev began.”

    SAC Bright then answered the questions from the news media that had gathered there.

    Of course the above is fiction. That is what should have happened. How Mr. Todashev met his untimely demise has to be a relatively straight forward event. Instead of the above we have a team of FBI experts descending on Orlando from DC. Everyone accepts this a natural. Everything has to be washed and scrubbed before the people are allowed to know anything about it. The soldiers have to be lined up in a row.

    What will happen next is we will then get the statement from the FBI which will be to this effect:

    “Ibragim Todashev was shot some time in the evening of Tuesday May 21, 2013, by an FBI Agent from Boston who was interviewing him along with two Massachusetts state police officers and other law enforcement officials. During that interview Ibragim Todashev attacked the FBI agent putting his life in jeopardy and acting in self-defense Todashev was killed. The investigation to date shows that the FBI agent acted properly and in accordance with all the rules of the FBI governing self-defense. This matter is under investigation and there will be no further information until the investigation is completed. But let us assure you the FBI acted in a proper and responsible manner at all times.”

    Then, of course, we’ll hear from unnamed officials with inside information other things that relate to the incident. There will be a knife in some stories, in others it will be a club, and in others a lamp. We’ll be told about a confession to murders and perhaps some suggestion he was involved in the Marathon Terrorist Attack.

    I hope I’m wrong but I expect the last thing we’ll hear is what really happened because if we were going to know that it would have already come out. It’s a simple situation with a half-dozen law enforcement witnesses. Why the delay? Why the silence?

    Matt Connolly is a former long-time deputy district attorney in Norfolk County under William Delahunt. He lives on Cape Cod. Read his blog, The Trial of Whitey Bulger. Check out our stories about Bulger

    ——————–

    Seven Freakin’ agents/troopers were there…

    Posted by Swamp | May 25, 2013, 9:59 am
  11. And in the latest twist, the father of Ibragim Todashev – the man shot by the FBI agent – just held a press conference where he showed 16 photo of the his son’s body including 6 bullet wounds to the torso and one to the back of the head. The photos have yet to be authenticated:

    Father of man FBI shot claims his son was executed
    By MAX SEDDON
    Associated Press / May 30, 2013

    MOSCOW (AP) — The father of a Chechen immigrant killed in Florida while being interrogated by the FBI about his ties to a Boston Marathon bombings suspect said Thursday that the U.S. agents killed his son ‘‘execution-style.’’

    At news conference in Moscow, Abdul-Baki Todashev showed journalists 16 photographs that he said were of his son, Ibragim, in a Florida morgue. He said his son had six gunshot wounds to his torso and one to the back of his head and the pictures were taken by his son’s friend, Khusen Taramov.

    It was not immediately possible to authenticate the photographs.

    The FBI says 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter Ibragim Todashev was killed last week during a violent confrontation in his Orlando home while an FBI agent and two Massachusetts state troopers questioned him about his ties to slain Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, as well as about a 2011 triple slaying in Massachusetts.

    Three law enforcement officials said initially that Todashev had lunged at the FBI agent with a knife, although two of them later said it was no longer clear what had happened.

    Greg Comcowich, a spokesman for the Boston FBI, declined to comment Thursday on the elder Todashev’s claim that his son was unarmed.

    Abdul-Baki Todashev said the photos were emailed to him by Taramov, who apparently was at the morgue to identify the body. The father said Taramov was part of the Muslim community holding the body for the family until they could retrieve it.

    The father said Taramov told him that U.S. agents interrogated him on the street while five officials interrogated Todashev in his Florida house for eight hours on May 22, the night he was shot. He said his son was ‘‘100 percent unarmed.’’

    Todashev’s father said his son moved to the U.S. in 2008 on a study exchange program and met Tsarnaev at a boxing gym in Boston in 2011, about a year before he moved to Orlando. He said the two were ‘‘not particularly close friends.’’

    Prior to last month’s bombings, Todashev underwent an operation for a sports injury and was on crutches, making it physically impossible for him to have been involved in the bombings, his father said. He added that Todashev had recently received a green card and was planning to return to Chechnya for the summer last Friday, two days after he was killed.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | May 30, 2013, 9:57 am
  12. What if Tamerlan was being “protected” for the Waltham murders because the FBI (or other agency) was recruiting him, and Todashev knew that…

    Posted by Swamp | June 1, 2013, 9:21 am
  13. @SWAMP–

    It’s possible, however I suspect the covering up that is taking place is due to the fact that the FBI is investigating an incident that is blowback from an ongoing jihadist covert operation in the center of the Earth Island.

    As I’ve indicated in posts and comments, that op is being pursued by the GOP/Underground Reich element of CIA. Said element is by far and away the most powerful element of CIA.

    It is not unusual for FBI and other law enforcement agencies to cut across a CIA op, which results in all sorts of anomalies and contradictions.

    That is almost certainly what is going on here.

    Todashev’s demise may involve any number of scenarios.

    He may have actually signed a confession, or part of a confession and then decided for martyrdom and against “rolling over” and committed “suicide by cop.”

    He may have been executed because he, too, was part of the above-mentioned CIA/Underground Reich op in Chechnya/Dagestan/Earth Island.

    I doubt we’ll ever know the full story.

    It would not surprise me to learn that some of the Chechen/Dagestan jihadists being run by elements of CIA have also networked with neo-Nazi groups and/or individuals. Tamerlan was a “Truther.” The Truthers are a bunch of dupes controlled by Underground Reich. They are inextriably-linked to the far right.

    My first take when hearing of the incident (on Tax day and a Massachusetts holiday called “Patriots’ Day”) was that it was Aryan Nations/Posse Comitatus types.

    It was very close to the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing and Waco.

    In the run-up to the Boston Marathon bombing, we saw Aryan Brotherhood-linked killings in Texas and Colorado, as well as the deadly explosion of a fertilizer plant very close to Waco, Texas.

    A paramedic has been arrested for possessing an explosive in a [supposedly] unconnected incident.

    I suspect there’s more to the Colorado and Texas murders than we have been told. A “Turner Diaries” student would emulate the dictates of “The Order” and remain silent.

    Against this same Earth Island/jihadist op background is the chaos in Syria and Lebanon.

    As I’ve indicated in the past, I think it is safe to conclude that there is a proxy war going on in the Middle East and Earth Island.

    The petroleum/GOP/Underground Reich intelligence faction is utilizing Sunni proxy warriors to penetrate and control the center of the Earth Island and Russia is supporting Shiite Muslim elements (Iran, Lebanon/Hezbollah, Syria) to protect its Southern flank.

    Again, I call attention to the remarkable essay by Professor Robert E. Kaplan, on which you commented recently.

    It is indeed one of the most important articles in a long, long time.

    It peels away layers of obfuscation and cuts to the chase in a way that I can’t recall seeing, at least not recently.

    BTW–I updated that post yesterday (5/31).

    Best,

    Dave

    Posted by Dave Emory | June 1, 2013, 5:17 pm
  14. Did Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee lie on “Meet The Press”?

    “REP. MIKE ROGERS (R-MI, Chairman, Intelligence Committee, Former FBI Agent): Yeah, well, it’s important to understand why, in fact, the FBI interviewed him in the first place. So they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were concerned about his possible radicalization. And so they went from there, the FBI did their due diligence, and did a very thorough job about trying to run that to ground and then asks some more help from that intelligence service to try to get further clarification and, unfortunately, that intelligence service stopped cooperating. So what happens is that case gets closed down.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51611247/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/april-deval-patrick-mike-rogers-dick-durbin-pete-williams-michael-leiter-michael-chertoff-tom-brokaw-doris-kearns-goodwin-peggy-noonan-jeffrey-goldberg/#.UX8UzSuAeSM

    The media line has consistantly been that “The Russians went silent after the initial warnings about Tsarnaev”

    Until today:

    http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/06/keating_russia_shared_todashev_info

    Keating: Russia shared Todashev info
    Sunday, June 2, 2013
    PrintEmail Comments (37) .By:Erin Smith
    ..Russian intelligence officials sent the U.S. government information on the Chechen pal of Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev — just after the marathon attack and a month before he was shot dead while being questioned by authorities about his ties to the bombings.

    U.S. Rep. William Keating, who returned yesterday from a trip to Russia, said Russian intelligence officials sent information about 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev to their counterparts in the United States before he was fatally shot May 22 in Orlando, Fla., after what the FBI called a violent confrontation.

    Todashev was one of many Russian nationals named in the April 21 letter to U.S. officials, said Keating.

    .Keating said the missive was not a warning letter about Todashev, but he told the Herald his name came up during intelligence information sharing.

    “It was just clear that his name was referenced among others in that letter. It could have been in response to the FBI asking them what they knew,” Keating said, adding it was unclear why Russia shared the information. “We’ll be able to get these letters.”

    Keating said he spent more than an hour with Russia’s counterterrorism director and a top deputy at FSB, Russia’s equivalent of the FBI, who both candidly shared information on Tsarnaev, his association with militants and his visit to Russia last year.

    “I never thought we’d get that level of information and cooperation from the Russians,” Keating said.

    Keating acknowledged he learned “more specific” information from the Russians than FBI officials, who have failed to show up for congressional hearings on the bombings and have not provided briefings about Todashev.

    The head of Russia’s counterterror efforts said he believed the Boston Marathon attacks could have been prevented if the two countries had been working more cooperatively before the bombings, said Keating.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev first appeared on Russian authorities’ radar in 2011 after slain Canadian jihadist William Plotnikov named him as a fellow extremist under interrogation — news first reported by the Herald on May 3.

    Keating said Russian officials claim Tsarnaev unsuccessfully sought to join militants in Russia, Palestine and the Middle East and attempted to slightly alter his name. Tsarnaev traveled to Chechnya and Dagestan in January 2012 — nine months after the Russian warning — but Russian officials had no idea he was there because he traveled on a visa from Kyrgyzstan, where he was born, according to Keating.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev was killed April 19 in a firefight with police in Watertown. His younger brother, Dzhokhar, was later captured and is now charged in the April 15 attacks at the Boston Marathon finish line that killed 3 people and wounded more than 260.

    —————–

    Now, if they are reporting Todashev’s name, it’s in reference to Tsarnaev.

    Ironically, Keating says that the report came to the “Counterparts in the United States” on the same day (April 21) as Rogers appearance on “Meet The Press”.

    Surely there were other communications.

    Posted by Swamp | June 2, 2013, 10:27 am

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