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Ron Paul and the Nazis

COMMENT: It is not news that Ron Paul has expressed harsh, bigoted comments about gays, African-Americans and Jews in his newsletter although his supporters claim it “was not Ron Paul” who actually authored the articles.

It is also not news that white supremacist and Nazi elements have expressed support for Ron Paul.

Nor is it news that the GOP is in bed with Nazis.

After hacking into fascist websites, the Anonymous hacking group alleges that Paul has engaged the leaders of some of these groups in conference calls. If true, that confirms his active support for such elements at the same time that he is publicly disavowing them.

A couple of points in passing: although Paul is clearly racist/fascist in his orientation, his anti-Federal Reserve stance and opposition to foreign aid to Israel has endeared him to elements of the “Truther” movement–those people in the 9/11 investigative movement who espouse the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center/cruise missile hit the Pentagon nonsense.

His opposition to some of the surveillance/national security legislation passed in the wake of 9/11 has also endeared him to some of the American Muslim community.

Wouldn’t be interesting to get some of the Truthers and Muslims together with the folks from Stormfront and see how they get along?

“Anonymous Claims Neo-Nazi Links with Ron Paul” by Gianluca Mezzofiore; International Business Times; 1/31/2011.

EXCERPT: . . . Anonymous also claims that the organisation has links with Republican candidate Ron Paul. “We found a disturbingly high number of members who are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul,” the statement said, adding that Paul had regularly met with many party members and even engaged in conference calls with its board of directors. [Italics are mine–D.E.] . . .

Discussion

17 comments for “Ron Paul and the Nazis”

  1. The timing is perfect for this. My friends and I are talking about his “case” a lot. I have two articles to suggest that sum things up. He really is a fascist, there is no debate, not for me anyway:

    http://www.parcbench.com/2011/04/26/tin-foil-returns-for-2012/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/ron-paul-on-iranian-tv-2009-defends-hamas-and-suicide-bombing-bashes-israel.html

    Posted by Claude | February 12, 2012, 12:31 am
  2. Dave, where you say “wouldn’t it be interesting to get truthers and extremist Muslims together”;

    Too late. This is what we have been shouting about for ages. The ‘truth’ movement is essentially run by German intel and neo-nazis. The deeper you go into the beliefs of truthers, the closer you get to the old “Jewish conspiracy”.

    I have been to truth movement meetings where islamic extremists were attending in the past. The truth movement is the 5th column of useful idiots. It turns people angry at the financial situation, into an anti-jewish, anti-capitalist, proxy neo-nazi.

    Why? When a western government falls or is under attack, via a supported uprising, or even a war, the propaganda channels will ensure these people are fighting for the enemy. The whole time, they actually believe they are fighting for our freedom.

    http://germanywatch.blogspot.com/2011/09/wmd-and-germanys-dirty-secret.html

    http://germanywatch.blogspot.com/2011/09/as-discussed-in-wmd-and-germanys-dirty.html

    Posted by G | February 12, 2012, 6:49 am
  3. @G: I’m afraid that is true to a point. Although, TBH, many of the truthers and even some of the spokesmen are indeed decent people, it is also quite true that we cannot ignore the serious amounts of infiltration and subversion that has occurred over the past decade. People like Eric Hufschmid, Michael ‘ProThink’ Delaney, Michael Collins Piper, etc. need to be exposed for the liars and pawns that they truly are…..some have woken up, but sadly, it may take a long time to make serious headway, but hopefully it won’t be too late…..

    Posted by Steven L. | February 12, 2012, 1:51 pm
  4. Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 12, 2012, 6:05 pm
  5. Dave, we need more exposure of this. Please come back and do more broadcasts!!

    Posted by mike | February 12, 2012, 6:54 pm
  6. Ron Paul’s many links to the John Birch Society, his relationship to Alex Jones who is closely linked to G.Edward Griffin[ a JBS officer] and Anthony Hilder…linked to the Robert Kennedy assasination.

    Posted by mike | February 12, 2012, 7:04 pm
  7. @Mike–

    I’m still “here.”

    I will produce more programs some months down the line, when the day job permits.

    Posted by Dave Emory | February 12, 2012, 7:44 pm
  8. ya Ron Paul sure is a Fascist
    we get mailing from him from time to time and his son Rand Paul

    the last mailing we go was anti-Roe v. Wade

    Well anyways I have been researching the Ron Paul phenomena for a bit now
    Paul meet with French ‘The National Front’ party member Madame Le Pen
    http://www.thelocal.fr/1463/20111013/#

    there certainly a John Birch air to him also didn’t Mussolini put Italy back on the gold standard, i can smell the Koch.
    Libertarianism basic ideology of limited government is fascist idealism, for in a democracy the people are the government.
    Are not corporations ‘people’ in our current system?
    With less government we are left with Corporations .
    Besides, Ron Paul loves Ayn Rand and we all know where that goes, capitalist supermen

    mother jones is reporting that the Paul outfit is doing the duck and cover about the news letters
    http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/ron-paul-rand-racist-newsletter-debate-king

    this link is self explanatory with photos
    http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-ron-paul-friends-supporters/

    Posted by leif | February 13, 2012, 7:59 am
  9. Yeah, there have been, without doubt, some nasty characters in the 911 truth movement, and you can see where they’re trying to lead people.
    I personally think the operation was very long planned, with a truth movement waiting offstage for their cue. It surely has been a huge distraction with small results.

    Posted by Dwight | February 13, 2012, 10:55 am
  10. @Pterrafractyl: Why am I not surprised? Thanks for the link, very informative. :)

    Posted by Steven L. | February 13, 2012, 4:23 pm
  11. Note, Ron Paul now has an official Sugar-Daddy: Peter Thiel wrote Ron a couple of big checks last month.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 20, 2012, 10:55 am
  12. @Pterrafractyl: Just more proof that Thiel is a tool and useful idiot of the world crime network. What does he think he can gain from an RP presidency?

    Posted by Steven L. | February 20, 2012, 4:06 pm
  13. That last article, Pterrafractyl, confirms Dave’s doubts about Peter Thiel, which he expressed in FTR #718 and subsequent. At this point, if Thiel finances Ron Paul, there is no doubt anymore about his political and ideological allegiances.

    Posted by Claude | February 20, 2012, 4:54 pm
  14. @Steven L.: I’m not sure what agenda Thiel has for the US policy besides his generic uber-Libertarian agenda (which he would probably get with any random GOPer in office anyways). But there’s still the issue of getting his Seasteading initiative off the ground and you have to wonder how being a presidential Sugar Daddy helps with such an endeavor.

    @Claude: Yeah, I was a little surprised to see Paul get a Sugar Daddy because he huge small donor base. But according to this article, Theil’s $1.7 million in donations account for 70% of Paul’s donations in January. It’s a sign of just how whacked out the US elections have become in the post-Citizen’s United ere if even Ron Paul’s formidable grass roots base can’t keep up with money needed to run a modern campaign.

    Here’s another interesting point regarding what Thiel might want in the long run from a Paul presidency (or any presidency): David Brin, the Sci-Fi author, is currently writing a novel based on a Seasteading colony. He did an interview last year where he speculated on Thiel’s real agenda with the Seasteading project and his theory was quite interesting. He claims that Thiel & Friends want to set up these offshore colonies pretty much so they can obtain institution voting right status in an expected reformulation of how the globe is governed. The idea is that when this new global governing arrangement gets installed (sort of a UN with more teeth I guess), individuals will have no real voting rights, only institutions will count at that level. And existing nations will get grandfathered into the new arrangement with the precious voting rights, including micro-island nations and even the Seastead colonies. And each one of those votes will be worth so much that setting up an entire offshore mini-nation is worth the price of admission. Who knows how accurate Brin’s predictions are (he’s friends with Thiel), but the whole interview is worth a read.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 20, 2012, 8:13 pm
  15. @Pterrafractyl: Interesting stuff….and a little eerie at the same time.

    Posted by Steven L. | February 21, 2012, 6:30 pm
  16. Mark Ames latest blogging, apropos. What’s this mysterious alliance with Paul and Romney? Bemusing.

    Posted by GrumpusRex | February 29, 2012, 11:17 pm
  17. Here’s a follow up article on the findings of Anonymous hackers that discusses various meetings between Ron and Rand and their associates

    International Business Times
    Anonymous Expose Nazi Third Position ‘Bridging Tactic’ with Ron Paul
    By Gianluca Mezzofiore : Subscribe to Gianluca’s RSS feed | February 02, 2012 1:20 PM GMT

    The nationalist American Third Position Party (A3P) pursued a “bridging tactic” with the Ron Paul Revolution movement that support the Republican candidate for the White House, according to emails hacked by Anonymous.

    Calling for a “White uprising”, A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso, whose email account was hacked by the collective, claims that his racist forum WhiteNewsNow is “the only W[hite] N[ationalist] forum working hard to form a bridge with the 100 times larger Ron Paul Revolution”.

    Other excerpts show Kelso’s efforts in organising meetings between Ron Paul and other members of the A3P such as corporate lawyer William D. Johnson, chairman of the neo-Nazi A3P.

    Johnson, who in 1985 proposed a constitutional amendment that would revoke the American citizenship of every non-white US citizen, founded the American Third Position along with anti-Semite Kevin MacDonald, professor at California State University, Long Beach.

    “I’m going to go to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) with Bill Johnson,” reads an email to an A3P member dated January 2011. “Bill and I will be meeting with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a teleconference call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more later. Things are starting to happen (thanks to folks like you).”

    In another passage, Kelso, a former Scientologist and account owner of other German Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb. 12. I’ll send back reports to you from personal meetings with Ron Paul, newly-elected Senator Rand Paul and many others. It’ll be here on WhiteNewsNow, a place that is really starting to get interesting because of the presence of folks like you. Birds of a feather flock together, and we are really gathering some quality here.”

    Kelso’s strategy appears to be to connect with the extremist wings of Ron Paul’s supporters to lobby for A3P racist policies. He became an active fan of Paul in 2007. He was reportedly attracted to Paul because he believed the Republican’s followers would be receptive to his white supremacist views. He described Paul as “implicitly white” and started to actively organise Paul’s events.

    “The tactic is one of aggressively ‘bridging ‘between our explicit WN members (with our very small numbers) and our very IMPLICITLY pro-White kinsmen in movements like Ron Paul Revolution (with their HUGE) numbers.”

    Paul’s connections with racist supporters have been highlighted by the media in America. The Washington Post reported in January that Paul has been a businessman who pursued a marketing strategy that included publishing racially charged newsletters.

    If you were wondering if Jamie Kelso actually made it to the 2011 CPAC meeting…he was there.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | November 18, 2013, 9:15 am

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