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Snowden’s Ride, Part 7: Citizen Greenwald, The National Alliance and The Underground Reich

The Turner Diaries and Hunter, National Alliance books

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COMMENT: We’ve covered Eddie “The Friendly Spook” Snowden’s exploits in numerous previous posts: Part IPart IIPart IIIPart IVPart VPart VIPart VII, Part VIIIPart IXPart X, Part XI, Part XIIPart XIII.) Users of this website are emphatically encouraged to examine these posts in detail, as it is impossible to do justice to the arguments in those articles in the scope of this post.

Suffice it to say, for our purposes here, that Snowden’s activities are–quite obviously–an intelligence operation directed at Barack Obama’s administration at one level and the United States and U.K. at another.

We note that the individuals and institutions involved with Snowden, as well as Fast Eddie himself, track back to the far right, Nazi, white supremacists, Holocaust deniers and elements and individuals involved with the Underground Reich. Again, PLEASE examine the previous posts on the subject, as there is no way to flesh out this line of inquiry in this post. 

Serpent's Walk: Forecasts a Nazi takeover of U.S. in mid-twenty-first century, after WMD terrorist attacks.

In past discussion of Eddie the Friendly Spook’s leaker of choice, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, we noted that he has professionally networked with the Koch brothers funded Cato Institute. Greenwald’s professional associations include far more odious relationships.

Greenwald launched his own legal business, representing “unpopular clients,” including neo-Nazis. 

In our last post, we highlighted Greenwald’s five-year long representation of Matthew Hale, head of the World Church of the Creator.

In addition to Hale, Greenwald also represented a consortium of neo-Nazi/White Supremacist groups, including the National Alliance. (See text excerpts below.)

Being sued for inciting two white supremacists to attack Latino day-laborers, they were represented by Greenwald. It was Greenwald’s contention that he was motivated by the need to preserve the free speech rights of these groups. (See text excerpts below)

A number of points to consider, in connection with Citizen Greenwald’s activities:

  • As is the case with his five year, pro-bono representation of Matthew Hale, Greenwald’s work on behalf of cold-blooded Nazi killers gives the lie to his pretenses of being a friend to humanity.
  • Greenwald rationalized his work on behalf of National Alliance et al as defending important principles of free speech. The National Alliance’s books are explicitly intended as motivational instruction for murder and terrorism! It is this “right” that Greenwald defended!
  • In the context of the point above, we note that The Turner Diaries was the ideological catechism used by the Nazi terror group The Order, best known for the murder of Denver talk show host Alan Berg. The Turner Diaries was also the blueprint for Timothy McVeigh and company in the Oklahoma City Bombing. (See text excerpts below.) The actual mastermind of the Oklahoma City bombing, according to ATF informant Carol Howe, was Andreas Strassmeir. Strassmeir was a “former” Bundeswehr officer and the son of Chancellor Helmut Kohl’s chief of staff. Andreas’ grandfather was one of the charter members of the NSDAP under Hitler. The resemblance between Strassmeir and “John Doe #2” is striking. “John Doe #2 was an individual seen in the company of Timothy McVeigh and never apprehended. (See photos at right.) 

  • The head of the National Alliance and author of Turner Diaries–William Luther Pierce–appears to have had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. (See text excerpts below.)
  • The climactic episode of The Turner Diaries is a low-level, suicide aerial attack on the Pentagon which occurs on the German “Day of Destiny”–November 9th. A German would write that date as–9/11! (See text excerpts below.)
  • The Turner Diaries were also the source of operational inspiration for Dr. Larry Ford, who collaborated with the CIA’s assistance to the apartheid regime’s biological warfare program named Project Coast. Ford may have been involved with the milieu behind the anthrax attacks. (See text excerpt below.)
  • Another of Pierce’s novels–Hunter–is dedicated to Nazi/White Supremacist assassin Joseph Paul Franklin and is specifically intended as an instructional/motivational manual for racist killers! (See text excerpts below.)
  • According to former member Thomas Martinez, The Order (inspired by The Turner Diaries) received funding from German families in South America. (See text excerpts below.)
  • Also according to Martinez, William Luther Pierce–head of Citizen Greenwald’s client The National Alliance–met with German Nazi Manfred Roeder, described as the head of the remnant of the German Nazi Party. This after Roeder traveled to Brazil to meet with Josef Mengele, among others. Greenwald currently resides in Brazil. (See text excerpt below.)

“The Day the Bloggers Won” by Eric Boehlert; salon.com; 5/19/2007.

EXCERPT: . . . . His work was at times political in the sense that he took on unpopular clients in free speech cases that spotlighted the practical tensions between the rights of individuals and the collective urges of the community. In 2002 he defended a strident anti-immigration group, National Alliance, in a New York civil rights lawsuit after two Mexican day workers were beaten and stabbed on Long Island by two men posing as contractors in search of laborers. The victims claimed that the anti-immigration rhetoric of National Alliance, which urged racist violence against Latino immigrants and other racial minorities, was partly to blame for the beatings. Greenwald argued that the case represented a misguided attempt to impose liability and punishment on groups because of their political and religious views. A federal judge threw out the case. . . .

“Anti-Immigrant Groups Can’t Be Held Liable for Attack” [AP]; First Amendment Center; 9/16/2002.

EXCERPT: A federal judge has dismissed a civil rights lawsuit that held seven anti-immigration organizations partly responsible for the brutal September 2000 attack on a pair of Mexican day laborers.

But workers Israel Perez and Magdaleno Estrada can still pursue civil rights claims against the two men convicted of beating them, U.S. District Judge Joanna Seybert ruled on Sept. 13.

In her decision, Seybert said the seven groups did not violate the two immigrants’ civil rights by making anti-immigrant statements. A lawyer for one of the groups, the Farmingville-based Sachem Quality of Life, praised the ruling. . . .

. . . Perez and Estrada were beaten and stabbed by Christopher Slavin and Ryan Wagner in September 2000. The pair had posed as contractors looking for day laborers.

Both attackers were convicted of attempted murder, and sentenced to 25 years in prison. . . .

. . . . The newspaper also reported that the lawsuit claimed that the philosophy of white supremacist organizations — including the West Virginia-based National Alliance and American Patrol in Sherman Oaks, Calif. — urged racist violence against Latino immigrants and other racial minorities. Newsday reported that Brewington said the group’s urgings prompted the attacks.

“The lawsuit was a very dangerous attempt to start imposing liability and punishment on groups because of their political and religious views,” Glenn Greenwald, a Manhattan attorney representing the National Alliance and other groups, was quoted by Newsweek as saying. “If you can be liable for the actions of other people who hear your views, then you would be afraid to ever express any views that were ever unconventional.”

 “Jewish Defense Organization Dossier on Glenn Greenwald”; scribd.com.

EXCERPT: This is what transpired: In September 2000, two local racist skinheads posed as homebuilding contractors to lure two Mexican day laborers to a warehouse where the white supremacists stabbed and nearly beat the immigrants to death. One of the assailants was tattooed with swastikas.The other had a tattoo on his stomach of a skinhead menacing a kneeling Jew. Perez and Escamilla were Mexican/Chicano day laborers residing in Farmingville, New York. Escamilla was bludgeoned by Slavin until he lost consciousness; Perez too was clubbed by Slavin and was stabbed several times by Wagner. Escamilla eventually regained consciousness, and both plaintiffs managed to escape. They were aided by a passing motorist who summoned the police.

“In September 2001, Perez and Escamilla commenced the present action under 42 U.S.C. §§ 1981, 1985, 1986, and 1988, and state law, with the filing of a complaint signed by Brewington, alleging the above acts of violence by Slavin and Wagner. Thecomplaint also named as defendants seven advocacy organizations (collectively the”organization defendants”), describing them as associations that advocated hatred against various groups on the basis of, inter alia, race, nationality, or religion andalleging that Sachem, a Farmingville-based association, “advocate[d] hatred andintolerance against immigrants, and in particular, day laborers” The complaint alleged that defendants had conspired to deprive plaintiffs and similarly situated immigrantlaborers of, inter alia, their Fifth, Thirteenth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights to travel, to enjoy equal protection of the laws, to “be free from badges and incidents of slavery,”and to “be free from assault and battery motivated by racial prejudice”. It alleged that Slavin and Wagner had “acted with the support of “the organization defendants and that the assaults by Slavin and Wagner constituted overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy.”

“Neo-Nazis and 9/11” by Jack McCarthy; Counterpunch; 10/29/2001.

EXCERPT: . . . . Upon perusing his speeches from 1998-99, I discovered that Pierce, who heads the so-called ‘National Alliance,’ did indeed utter some most interesting (pre-9/11—if not prophetic—remarks about Osama bin Laden and bio-terrorism. The running theme in Pierce’s commentaries is—to paraphrase his hero Hitler—that Osama Bin Laden’s warning to America is ‘I Am Coming.’ And so is bio-terrorism.

In one chilling commentary Pierce, (after noting that Bin Laden and the rest of the lost generation of angry Moslem youth had it with their parents’ compromises and were hell bent on revenge against infidel America) issued this stark, prophetic warning in a 1998 radio address titled, ‘Stay Out of Tall Buildings.’ ‘New Yorkers who work in tall office buildings anything close to the size of the World Trade Center might consider wearing hard hats . . .’ Pierce warned. . . . [Italics are Mr. Emory’s]. . . .

The Turner Diaries; “Andrew Mac­don­ald;” Bar­ri­cade Books, Inc. [SC] 1996; Copy­right 1978, 1980 William Pierce; ISBN 1–56980-086–3; p. 201.

EXCERPT. . . . I con­ferred pri­vately with Major Williams of the Wash­ing­ton Field Com­mand for more than an hour on the prob­lem of attack­ing the Pen­ta­gon. The military’s other major com­mand cen­ters were either knocked out on Sep­tem­ber 8 or sub­se­quently con­sol­i­dated with the Pen­ta­gon, which the top brass appar­ently regards as impreg­nable. And it damned near is. We went over every pos­si­bil­ity we could think of, and we came up with no really con­vinc­ing plan—except, per­haps one. That is to make an air deliv­ery of a bomb.

In the mas­sive ring of defenses around the Pen­ta­gon there is a great deal of anti-aircraft fire­power, but we decided that a small plane, fly­ing just above the ground, might be able to get through the three-mile gaunt­let with one of our 60-kiloton war­heads. One fac­tor in favor of such an attempt is that we have never before used air­craft in such a way, and we might hope to catch the anti-aircraft crews off their guard.

Although the mil­i­tary is guard­ing all civil air­fields, it just hap­pens that we have an old crop duster stashed in a barn only a few miles from here. My imme­di­ate assign­ment is to pre­pare a detailed plan for an aer­ial attack on the Pen­ta­gon by next Mon­day. We must make a final deci­sion at the time and then act with­out fur­ther delay.

Novem­ber 9, 1993. It’s still three hours until first light, and all sys­tems are ‘go.’ I’ll use the time to write a few pages—my last diary entry. Then it’s a one-way trip to the Pen­ta­gon for me. The war­head is strapped into the front seat of the old Stear­man and rigged to det­o­nate either on impact or when I flip a switch in the back seat. Hope­fully, I’ll be able to mange a low-level air burst directly over the cen­ter of the Pen­ta­gon. Fail­ing that, I’ll at least try to fly as close as I can before I’m shot down.

Thus end Earl Turner’s diaries, as unpre­ten­tiously as they began. His final mis­sion was suc­cess­ful, of course, as we all are reminded each year on Novem­ber 9—our tra­di­tional Day of the Mar­tyrs. . . .

“California Doctor’s Suicide Leaves Many Troubling Mysteries Unsolved” by Jo Thomas; The New York Times; 11/03/2002.

EXCERPT: . . . . After his death, Detective Ray said, the authorities learned that Dr. Ford had been a consultant to Project Coast, which has been accused of creating weapons for use against enemies of apartheid. They also discovered that he had held extreme racist views and had once told a girlfriend that to understand him, she should read ”The Turner Diaries,” the anti-Semitic and white supremacist novel, popular among far-right groups, that was prosecutors say inspired the Oklahoma City bombing.

Over the years, Dr. Ford made a number of trips to South Africa. His laboratory assistant and constant companion, Valerie Kesler, says she traveled there with him at least six times.

Speaking through her lawyer, Ms. Kesler said that Dr. Ford had once carried a vial in his vest pocket and handed it to a South African official at the airport. Dr. Ford, she remembered, was extremely nervous throughout the flight. Years later, she said, she realized that the vial held lethal bacteria, endangering everyone on the plane. . . .

1988: Neo-Nazi Group Founds Publishing House, Publishes Book to Inspire White Assassins; History Commons

EXCERPT: . . . .William Pierce, the founder of the neo-Nazi National Alliance (see 1970-1974) and the author of the inflammatory and highly influential white supremacist novel The Turner Diaries (see 1978), oversees the creation of a publishing firm for the Alliance, National Vanguard Books. It will publish a number of works, most prominently a reprint of The Turner Diaries and Pierce’s second novel, Hunter, which tells the story of a white assassin who kills minorities, particularly interracial couples. He dedicates Hunter to Joseph Paul Franklin, convicted of the sniper murders of two African-American men (see 1980). Pierce will later tell his biographer that he wrote Hunter as a deliberate motivational tool for assassins, saying, “From the beginning with Hunter, I had this idea of how fiction can work as a teaching tool in mind.” In 2002, the Center for New Community will write, “Like The Turner Diaries, the book has inspired several real-life acts of racist terror” (see January 4, 2002 and After). In 1991, National Vanguard will expand into releasing audiotapes, which by December 1992 will spawn a radio show, American Dissident Voices. In 1993, it will begin publishing comic books targeted at children and teenagers. . . .

“The Turner Diaries, Other Racist Novels, Inspire Extremist Violence” by Camille Jackson; Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Report; Fall 2004, #115.

EXCERPT: Few works of fiction have moved readers to action quite like The Turner Diaries. Written under a pseudonym by William Pierce, late founder of the neo-Nazi National Alliance, the bloody race-war novel has been dubbed the “bible of the racist right” by the FBI.

Published in 1978, The Turner Diaries has fueled some of the last two decades’ most infamous outbreaks of extremist violence, including Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Although The Turner Diaries may be the most famous such novel, it is neither the first nor the last novelized version of dire conspiracies and drastic solutions.

Pierce told his seminal story through two years of diary entries by his white-supremacist hero, Earl Turner. Turner carries out orders for the Organization, an underground group struggling against the System — an anti-white, anti-gun U.S. government that continually puts more restrictions on its citizens.

Using “detonators, timers, igniters and other gadgets” built by Turner, the Organization spawns vicious warfare between blacks, Jews and whites as it takes over the country, city by city.

Despite Pierce’s stilted prose — a holdover, maybe, from his career as a physics professor — the violence is unforgettably vivid. Turner describes slicing the throat of a Jewish shop owner “from ear to ear,” murdering a Washington Post editor with two shotgun blasts, and watching starving blacks barbecue and eat white children.

By the novel’s end, Turner is working for an elite survivalist group called the Order and plotting a suicide mission — flying a crop-duster plane strapped with a warhead into the Pentagon, the System’s last remaining military stronghold. “Two-thirds of the troops around the Pentagon are niggers,” Turner writes in his journal, “which should greatly enhance my chances of getting through.”

Published by Pierce’s own National Vanguard Press, The Turner Diaries didn’t exactly rocket up the best-seller lists when it first appeared. But Pierce certainly got through to Bob Mathews.

A neo-Nazi follower, Mathews organized a real-life group called The Order, based on Pierce’s fictional Order, which committed a series of armored car heists and plotted serious racist violence before ambushing and murdering Jewish radio talk show host Alan Berg in 1984. . . .

Brotherhood and Murder by Thomas Martinez; Google Books; p. 234.

EXCERPT: . . . .The performer also said ” . . . Some very old German families [in South America] were giving Bob [Matthews, leader of The Order] some money.” . . .

. . . For example, as long ago as 1978, Manfred Roeder, who headed the remnants of the German Nazi Party, traveled to Brazil, where he met with Josef Mengele and other Nazi leaders. Immediately afterward, Roeder traveled to the United States, where–according to the ADL–he met with Dr. William Pierce, among others. . . .”


13 comments for “Snowden’s Ride, Part 7: Citizen Greenwald, The National Alliance and The Underground Reich”

  1. Good research here today! Dave you’re doing a good job on this for the simple reason that, in the US, those who come across your research may be inspired to start using their critical thinking skills again to arrive at a “happy” medium btwn your research and what the Amy Goodman zombies dish out. Cheers.

    Posted by frosty the snowjob | July 20, 2013, 2:11 pm
  2. @Frosty the Snowjob–

    I’m not sure that “happy” can be used here.

    The central point (also underscored in the previous post on G-wald’s pro-Nazi efforts) concerns just WHAT the hell someone who is supposedly concerned with the welfare of humanity is doing actively assisting folks like this?

    He did so for years and much of his work was pro bono!

    Note, in particular, that he defended National Alliance’s “free speech” capabilities.

    Their works are specifically, explicitly and VERY successfully intended to inspire murder and terrorism.

    Snowden, who backed crypto-Nazi Ron Paul for President, must be judged in the same context.

    Eddie the Friendly Spook thinks we should eliminate social security, go back to the gold standard and embrace high unemployment as a necessary part of capitalist correction.

    He can NOT be taken seriously when he claims to be acting out of altruistic concerns.

    He clearly does NOT care for the welfare of others.

    These people are not as advertised.

    Thanks for paying attention to this website.



    Posted by Dave Emory | July 20, 2013, 2:56 pm
  3. Clearly this is very distressing news to anyone following this story, but I have to ask one thing to clarify my thinking, and please don’t be upset at the question.

    Since you, Dave, have been trying admirably to get people to pay attention to NSA spying and skullduggery for years, and finally people are paying attention to it now, even though through a despicable source according to these reports, can’t we at least be happy that it’s finally happening? I grant you it’s bargaining with the devil. Yes, it is hurting the US’s reputation and hurting our alliances, but how can that be avoided in any case given the treacherous state of affairs we find ourselves? There will be some trauma inevitably involved in the process of reforming this country. At least most Americans are finally waking up and facing the truth about ourselves. Isn’t that what we wanted to happen? Isn’t this the “one great shock” that Milton Mayer says never happens to mobilize the public in the evolution of fascism? How else would you see it happening?

    Posted by jg | July 20, 2013, 3:23 pm
  4. @JG–

    You have missed the point. Granted, the 13 previous posts embody a long, detailed and complicated line of analysis.

    However, I have undertaken to fashion it and present it at great inconvenience to myself, and for free at that.

    This is a “psy-op.” I compared it to the U-2 incident. Eddie Snowden is a fascist and a spy. “Spy” rhymes with “lie.” Don’t forget it.

    This “U-2, II” is being done to, among other things, destroy Obama.

    It will do damage to U.S. economic infrastructure, our internet business, in particular.

    It will also damage U.K.

    The assault on the Echelon/Menwith Hill operation began from the far right and fascist elements years ago.

    Fascist elements have been using anti-government themes with great success for some time–witness the success of the “Truthers.”

    Witness the success of Ron Paul–Ed Snowden’s candidate of choice.

    Witness the success of obviously fascist elements at getting air-time on Pacifica radio. Listening to Pacifica’s public affairs programming could be compared to digesting an audio version of “Der Sturmer,” while sitting in a North Korean prison camp in 1951.

    Pacifica broadcasts Al Jazeera, run by the Muslim Brotherhood.

    When the Nazified GOP gets back into power–and that is part of the goal of this psy-op–you can kiss your ass goodbye.

    The economy will be deliberately sabotaged–the rich will survive very nicely, thank you, and everyone else will eat it raw.

    Social Security and Medicare will be gutted. The poor and minorities will be disenfranchised. Ultimately, they will be kindly, gently eliminated through “Clausewitzian economics.”

    People with disabilities will be “mercifully” terminated, as they were in Nazi Germany’s T-4 program.

    The Nazi and Islamofascist elements employed by the Underground Reich will enjoy more operational leeway than ever, and they will make full use of that.

    Why do you think a Nazi son-of-a-bitch like Ron Paul wants less surveillance?

    A horrific, devastating incident will be allowed to happen, resulting in a war we can’t afford and that will terminally sap the United States’ remaining resources.

    This to prevent electoral backlash to the circumstances I have set forth above.

    As far as the American people “waking up”–what a joke!

    After 9/11 happened, the Operation Green Quest raids revealed the funding infrastructure of Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda to be profoundly tied to GOP/Grover Norquist/Karl Rove/Bush family.

    Talat Othman, a director of Harken Energy, friend and pollitical adviser to both Georges Bush and a man who gave a Muslim benediction at the Republican convention interceded with then Treasury Secretary O’Neill on behalf of the institutions and individuals raided on 3/20/2002.

    This was in a full page article on page A-4 of the Wall Street Journal on 4/18/2002.

    No one blinked.

    Do a key word search on the internet. How much coverage has there been?

    Who is talking about it?

    The House Select Committee on Assassinations recommended that the Justice Department investigate David Ferrie and the anti-Castro Cubans in New Orleans as being conspirators in the assassination of the President of the United States. That’s who Jim Garrison was after.

    No one blinked.

    Bottom line: the American people mistake their love of comfort for love of freedom.



    Posted by Dave Emory | July 20, 2013, 5:03 pm
  5. So sad but so true! Secret prisons, extraordinary renditions, kidnapping, torture, spying, control of the media …. None of this is new and it should not come as a surprise to any well informed American. As a Latin American I have personally witnessed these things since the 70’s so when the internet came along I innocently tried to warn every single American I encountered through this medium thinking these things were happening all over the world because the American people were unaware of them. Sadly I discover this was not the case. The American people simply didn’t care! So why are Americans now so shocked and concern about these things? Is it because its WRONG to torture or spy on someone or because the US government is now doing it to them! Therein lies the rub! As I said to many Americans long for 911: “You should be concerned with US foreign policy because anything and everything your government does to other people around the world it will eventually do to you!” That is why 911 did not come as a surprise to me or many people in Latin America. The moment we saw those towers fall we knew the chickenhawks had simply come home to roost.

    It’s not a matter of “waking people up”. Americans are awake! They just don’t want to see! Thy want selective morality. It’s ok to torture, kill, spy and kidnap other people in other countries so that I can preserve my way of life AS LONG as my government doesn’t do it to me, but that’s not the way it works! A liar is a liar and if he lies to someone else he will lie to you as well.

    That is why I was so worried towards the end of the Bush presidency. By that time I knew the American people were unwilling and/or unable to stop the fascist take over of America and I was truly frightened for humanity as a whole but then something extraordinary happened. The agenda was moving very quickly up until 2007 when the US began negotiations with Poland for the establishment of a missile defense system within their territory. I will never forget the European conference when Putin stood up and in no uncertain terms told the US and Europe there would be war if they did not desist in their efforts to establish a missile system so close to the Russian border. Angela Merkel sat there with her mouth wide open and the look on her face gave me the impression that up until that point Germany and the fascist underground thought Russia was their ally.

    Through your FTR programs I have learned the underground reich infiltrated Russia after WWII just as they infiltrated the US. This is something I had never considered but it certainly helped me understand and put into perspective the whole Gorbachev era. Now I am wondering: “Where and how does Putin fit into all of this?” Is he truly anti-fascist? And if so, how did he manage to get into power?

    Posted by Shibusa | July 21, 2013, 8:18 am
  6. Also, to Shibusa and other fellow SpitfireList aficionados, who would like to learn more about Russia:


    There you go. I’m sure they’re not the only decent party in the Duma, but they are the biggest of them by far. =)

    Posted by Steven L. | July 21, 2013, 1:33 pm
  7. Excellent reply, Dave.

    Posted by jg | July 22, 2013, 1:54 am
  8. As far as Putin is concerned, have you seen the online version of TAAS lately? It reads just like a Koch Brothers handout. Climate denial, and all the rest of the Right wing propaganda. Think, Oil and Gas interests? It is amazing.

    Posted by jg | July 22, 2013, 1:58 am
  9. Getting stranger…
    This article is packed full of wierd comparisons (Einstein to Snowden) and appeals to German shame etc.
    It looks like Snowden’s door to Germany is still open:

    Patrick Cockburn
    Sunday 21 July 2013

    Germany should honour its debt and offer NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden asylum



    “The only person in Europe to see Snowden’s fate both in terms of political morality and in the context of the history of the US and Europe, is Rolf Hochhuth, the German author and playwright. He presented an eloquent petition to Chancellor Angela Merkel asking that Snowden be given asylum.

    Hochhuth points out in the petition that where government is both accuser and perpetrator “the accused has no hope of justice”. He added that if Snowden returns to the US he faces years in prison, but if he stays in Russia he will be permanently muzzled.

    So, why should Germany of all countries offer asylum to an American? Hochhuth writes that “more than any other, the German people are obligated to honour the right of asylum because, beginning in 1933, our elite, without exception from the Mann brothers to Einstein, survived the 12-year Nazi dictatorship purely because other countries, with the US as the greatest example, offered asylum to these refugees.”

    Hochhuth emphasises that he is far from being moved by any automatic anti-Americanism, but is motivated by memory of what the US did for Germany in the past. He remembers newsreel of when the Americans liberated Buchenwald in 1945 and saw Eisenhower in tears as he witnessed his GIs bulldozing mounds of corpses. “They could not understand how we Germans could have been capable of such acts. Yet what was America’s answer? Through their airlift they rescued Berlin from Stalin’s grasp.”

    Hochhuth argues that the US has changed, saying “no nation remains lastingly great”. It might be difficult to sustain a charge of treason against Snowden in the US, but he could still receive multiple 10-year sentences, under the Espionage Act, for revealing classified information. Hochhuth cites with approval George Bernard Shaw’s somewhat self-regarding bon mot: “I am held to be a master of irony. But even I would not have had the idea of erecting the Statue of Liberty in New York.”

    In its pursuit of Snowden the US government has given substance to his accusations about an over-mighty and uncontrolled security apparatus. The sovereign rights of independent states have been trodden down as readily as the rights of individuals. Hochhuth asks Merkel whether “you know of a similar act over a European state which considers itself sovereign, an act by which for 12 hours orders from the US prevent the plane of a South American president continuing its flight?”

    Aside from Hochhuth, there is something neutered and pro forma about the response of Europe’s leaders to Snowden’s revelations despite initial expressions of shock and anger. The British may have been subjected to less intense surveillance, but even if that were not so it is doubtful that they would care. Almost every significant act in Britain’s foreign policy over the past 30 years has been geared to strengthening its status as America’s greatest ally.

    Concern for human rights and liberty is at its height when the abuses happen in Benghazi, Aleppo or Homs, but it ebbs to nothing when the abuse is closer to home or involves US citizens.

    “It is the highest moral duty of Germany to give asylum to Edward Snowden,” concludes Hochhuth’s petition, “[because] we as no other Europeans are duty bound in the light of our shameful past!”

    Posted by Swamp | July 22, 2013, 5:47 am
  10. http://www.thenation.com/letter/greenwald-conservativelibertarian-mole

    Internal memo Well, what do you know? Maybe there is a Santa?

    Posted by Dave Emory II | July 23, 2013, 2:32 pm
  11. @”Dave Emory II”–

    This precise letter to the “Nation” was included in the previous post on Greenwald’s pro-Nazi efforts.


    On a related note, your comment (which I trashed) about Greenwald being Jewish and, therefore, your conclusion that this was an “Israeli” gambit of some kind could be seen as the equivalent of this:

    Greenwald is also gay. Bradley Manning, who being is championed by Greenwald, is also gay.

    So is Peter Thiel, whose Palantir firm is almost certainly the developer of the PRISM software, at the epicenter of much of this affair. Thiel is also the primary bankroller of the Provo, Utah-based Super PAC of crypto-Nazi Ron Paul, who was Eddie the Friendly Spook (Snowden)’s Presidential candidate of choice.

    Like Greenwald, Thiel also networks with the Koch Brothers-founded Cato institute.

    If one were to use the same fallacious thought process–I’m avoiding the term “bigoted” here–that you used to conclude that Greenwald’s Jewish background indicated an Israeli authorship of this, one might conclude that this whole affair was some sort of “gay intelligence operation” or conspiracy.


    Dave Emory I

    Posted by Dave Emory | July 23, 2013, 6:38 pm
  12. Yet another suggestion that Snowden may go to Germany; I submit only the paragraph below which is the most relevant:


    Edward Snowden’s fear of flying is justified
    Snowden is a refugee, not a spy. But America has history when it comes to forcing down planes in defiance of international law

    Geoffrey Robertson
    The Guardian, Tuesday 23 July 2013


    “That, no doubt, is why Snowden cancelled his ticket to Cuba a few weeks ago, fearing the flight would end in Florida. Russia has, in effect, provided him with temporary asylum (there is no legal magic about staying airside – he is in Russia) so he might be best advised to accept the gag and enjoy Moscow’s hospitality. Until, perhaps, a new government in Germany after its September elections offers him a platform if he turns up as a refugee, whereupon he could take a tramp steamer to Hamburg.”

    Posted by Swamp | July 24, 2013, 9:44 am
  13. People change. Sometimes too much:

    The Daily Banter
    iPad Hacker Released From Jail, Parties with Glenn Greenwald, Publishes Neo-Nazi Screeds

    Bob Cesca on October 09, 2014

    Way back in 2010, a so-called “white hat” hacker named Andrew Auernheimer, known online as “Weev,” exploited a security loophole on Apple’s iPad and acquired the names of 114,000 AT&T customers who subscribed to the iPad 3G data service. Following an investigation, Weev, who had “stolen” (his words) the user data was prosecuted and convicted. To his credit, Weev informed AT&T of the security flaw and the company quickly buttoned it up. But back in April of this year, Weev’s conviction was overturned because he was evidently tried in the wrong state (New Jersey). He was subsequently released from Pennsylvania’s Allenwood Federal Correctional Complex on April 11, 2014. The indictment remains, but the conviction no longer stands.

    During his time in jail, Weev apparently became a neo-Nazi, complete with a tattoo not unlike Edward Norton’s tattoo in American History X — a giant swastika on his right pectoral. After his release, he posted a series of racist and anti-Semitic remarks on a website called The Daily Stormer, a white-supremacist site not to be confused with The Daily Caller, The Daily Beast or The Daily Banter. Via Gawker, here are some choice passages:

    I’ve been a long-time critic of Judaism, black culture, immigration to Western nations, and the media’s constant stream of anti-white propaganda. Judge Wigenton was as black as they come. The prosecutor, Zach Intrater, was a Brooklyn Jew from an old money New York family.[…]

    The whole time a yarmulke-covered audience of Jewry stared at me from the pews of the courtroom. My prosecutor invited his whole synagogue to spectate.[…]

    They took control of our systems of finance and law. They hyperinflated our currency. They corrupted our daughters and demanded they subject themselves to sex work to feed their families. These are a people that have made themselves a problem in every nation they occupy, including ours. What’s saddest is that we are the enablers of this problem. The Jews abused our compassion to build an empire of wickedness the likes the world has never seen.

    No gray area there. Weev clearly hates Jews, African-Americans and anyone he perceives as “anti-white.”

    Oh, and in addition to his conversion to the neo-Nazi cause as well as his seemingly prolific online hate speech, Weev attended a party in New York soon after getting out of jail. The party was held by none other than Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras to coincide with the ceremony in which the duo received the Polk Award for their reporting on Edward Snowden and the National Security Agency.

    Unless he crashed the party, he was obviously an invited guest. But for a moment let’s assume Greenwald didn’t know Weev was invited. Long before the party, Greenwald had previously defended Weev in The Guardian back in March, 2013, months before the author/reporter rose to international acclaim. Indeed, Greenwald named Weev as a “hacktivist” who was being wrongfully persecuted by U.S. authorities.

    Just this week alone, a US federal judge sentenced hactivist Andrew “Weev” Auernheimer to 3 1/2 years in prison for exploiting a flaw in AT&T’s security system that allowed him entrance without any hacking, an act about which Slate’s Justin Peters wrote: “it’s not clear that Auernheimer committed any actual crime”, while Jeff Blagdon at the Verge added: “he cracked no codes, stole no passwords, or in any way ‘broke into’ AT&T’s customer database – something company representatives confirmed during testimony.” But he had a long record of disruptive and sometimes even quite ugly (though legal) online antagonism, so he had to be severely punished with years in prison.

    For a moment, let’s set aside the whole neo-Nazi thing. Let’s also not re-litigate the past in which Greenwald, during his law-practice days, defended a completely different neo-Nazi. The fact that Greenwald continues to blur the line between hacking and activism is utterly baffling. The manner in which he rationalized Weev’s actions is a gross illustration of gratuitous spin and dangerous oversimplification.

    Further baffling is the idea that hackers like Weev are somehow treated like free speech martyrs, yet television hosts like Bill Maher and author Sam Harris are excoriated by Greenwald and his publication, The Intercept, as racists and bigots merely because they cited empirical evidence critical of Islam — a far, far cry from Weev’s unapologetic Nazism.

    Why is the swastika-adorned Weev, who Greenwald hailed as a persecuted “hacktivist,” not similarly ripped to shreds for literally being a Nazi who said Jews “made themselves a problem in every nation they occupy, including ours”? It’s nearly impossible to imagine a reasonable explanation for this glaring inconsistency. Simply put: Greenwald and his self-righteous disciples want it both ways. But either free expression, however unpopular, is worthy of defending or it’s not.

    The question over whether or not Weev’s 10 year sentence was appropriate given the nature of the crime is an interesting topic worthy of debate given his decision to take the stolen information to Gawker. Another related topic worthy of debate is the role going to prison may have played in his decision to turn into a Nazi and get a giant swastika tattooed on his chest, although it may not be a very interesting debate since Weev kind of sounded like a Nazi before he was sent there:

    The Guardian
    Security alert: notes from the frontline of the war in cyberspace
    The battle for control of cyberspace is turning nasty, with young hackers, pirates and activists facing long prison sentences. We report from the frontline

    Jon Ronson
    Friday 3 May 2013

    A short, handsome man bounces outside the colossal courthouse on Walnut Street, Newark, New Jersey. He’s doing it to keep warm – it is freezing today – and also because he’s fired up. His name is Andrew Auernheimer, but he’s known across the internet as “weev”. His 20 or so friends are young and pale, as if they spend too much time indoors. One, a good-looking woman, starts crying.

    “I’ll miss you, darling,” he says, hugging her. “Don’t cry on me now. It’s all right.”

    Today is Andrew’s sentencing. He has about an hour of freedom left. “Let’s read some Keats,” he announces. He opens his tablet: “‘Poets and fanatics will be known…'” Ten minutes later: “I’m going inside. Let’s roll.”

    Now we’re in the elevator. I hear his girlfriend say, “As Bill Hicks said, ‘Hitler had the right idea. He was just an underachiever.'” Then she adds, “I’m being facetious. You should not kill anyone.”

    After his death, I became aware of lots of other Aaron Swartzes out there – hackers and pirates and activists facing prison for their ideology of internet freedom. It felt like a concerted worldwide prosecutorial effort to subdue a movement. So I began approaching them. I decided to contact only those people facing imminent imprisonment or trial. What in their lives had led them to that moment? How were they dealing with it?

    Some of them ignored me. I suppose if I were facing prison, paranoid that prosecutors would be scrutinising my every careless word, I’d have ignored me, too. But Andrew Auernheimer emailed me back right away.

    Now he stands up. Judge Wigenton asks him if he has anything to say. “I didn’t come here today to ask for forgiveness,” he begins. “The court should be making amends to me for the harm and the violence inflicted on my life. Many governments that have tried to restrict the freedom of the internet have ended up toppled.”

    Seventeen days earlier. I’m eating lunch with Andrew. He’s telling me a story. “I had a friend,” he’s yelling. “He was one of the most brilliant engineers I knew. He stepped into an alley and got beaten up by four black dudes. He got brain damage. This guy, who was shrewd and brilliant, is not going to be shrewd and brilliant any more. I understood then that I would be totally OK with 100,000 people dying to preserve my one friend who was brilliant.”

    Considering Andrew’s bleak future, I thought I’d take him somewhere fancy for lunch while I interviewed him. So I chose the elegant, wood-panelled Cafe Sabarsky on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. I have come to regret this decision because of his propensity to say incredibly offensive things in a very loud voice. Fellow diners are glancing at us.

    “Wow,” I whisper. “You’d be fine to let 100,000 people die to preserve one especially clever person?” I’m talking in a pointedly quiet way in the hope that he gets the message and adapts his voice accordingly. “Where does that come from?” I whisper. “It’s completely irrational.”

    “It’s not completely irrational!” he shouts. “Society is driven forward by a very small number of innovators. I don’t care about people who have nothing but contempt for innovators. I have no sympathy any more for the dregs of society. I don’t care if they live or die.”

    Andrew Auernheimer was born in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas in 1985. He grew up in a “crappy house in rural Missouri”, hence, he says, his sanguine attitude towards prison. “Aaron was this wide-eyed, naive, liberal kid,” he says. “I think that’s why it hit him so hard. He thought he was from a special class of people that this just doesn’t happen to. I’ve always known the government is out to get people like me. I’m poor and white and disaffected.”

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | October 10, 2014, 11:11 am

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