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The camo pants coincidence in Newtown, CT

There have been mul­ti­ple hoaxes and ample mis­re­port­ing in the New­town tragedy as the event unfolded. There is an unfor­tu­nate topic we’re going to have to revisit here:

As an intro to this topic, let’s start with the obser­va­tion that Tuesday’s episode of the Greta van Sus­teren show had a seg­ment that focused on the early sus­pi­cions that the shooter had help. Her guest was none other that Mark Fuhrman and, as one might imag­ine, the idea was dis­missed out of hand.

The rea­son this topic came up is because a sec­ond shooter was part of the ini­tial report by a teacher at the school who said there were two shoot­ers run­ning past the gym. In addi­tion, early CBS News TV reports had an eye wit­ness that describes a man wear­ing “camo pants” and a dark jacket being taken into cus­tody. The eye­wit­ness said the man looked the par­ents in the eye and said “I didn’t do it” as he was pass­ing by in hand­cuffs. The man then told the reporter that “he’s sit­ting over there in the police car right now” and points off cam­era, so there appeared to be a pretty unam­bigu­ous report of a man in cam­ou­flaged pant and a dark jacket that was taken into cus­tody and early CBS news reports of two gun­men at the school. Mem­ory is a com­pli­cated thing, espe­cially dur­ing mass casu­alty events. But if a sec­ond shooter is reported by a teacher dur­ing the shoot­ing and a man is marched past eye­wit­nesses wear­ing camo pants and a dark jacket and taken into cus­tody, it’s sort of irre­spon­si­ble of the media to just for­get that this hap­pened and never pro­vide an expla­na­tion. It cer­tainly fuels suspicions.

Also, accord­ing to this local CT news report the police were try­ing to deter­mine if the per­son in cus­tody was just coin­ci­den­tally try­ing to enter the build­ing at the same time as the shooter. The local news out­let, VoicesNew.com, looks like it cov­ers that spe­cific CT area for local report­ing. The below arti­cle is writ­ten as if it was writ­ten on Fri­day, Dec 14th, but it has a Decem­ber 18th pub­li­ca­tion date. It’s also listed as one of the “top_stories” in the link URL and has a Decem­ber 19th date in the URL — the date it was accessed by me — so the dates are clearly a bit screwy but this also appears to be a small, local news orga­ni­za­tion so that’s not to be entirely unex­pected given the cir­cum­stances (note the com­ment from Decem­ber 17th). Regard­less, given the CBS new report of the man in “camo pants” in cus­tody (and posted on the Wash­ing­ton Post’s web­site, so that is pretty irrefutable) this seems like an impor­tant aspect of the event to acknowl­edge and address:

VoicesNews.com
School Shoot­ing
Leaves 27 Dead
in Sandy Hook

by Megan Spicer and Jean Dunn
Pub­lished:
Tues­day, Decem­ber 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST
SANDY HOOK — Accord­ing to the New York Times, 27 peo­ple were killed today, includ­ing 20 chil­dren, Fri­day, Decem­ber 14, at Sandy Hook Ele­men­tary School on Dick­in­son Drive.

Sandy Hook School is an ele­men­tary school of more than 450 stu­dents, ages approx­i­mately 5 through 10, in kinder­garten through fourth grade.

Also dead is the shooter, iden­ti­fied as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who lived with his mother Nancy Lanza in Sandy Hook.

Mr. Lanza also killed his mother in their home.

Con­necti­cut State Police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance termed the inci­dent “a tragic sit­u­a­tion with a wide crime scene.”

At a 1:42 p.m. press con­fer­ence, Lt. Vance said “the sit­u­a­tion is secure” and “the pub­lic is not in danger.”

He did not con­firm the num­ber of deaths, say­ing only that there were “sev­eral fatal­i­ties at the scene, both stu­dents and staff,” includ­ing the school’s prin­ci­pal, Dawn Hochsprung, accord­ing to CNN.

Lt. Vance con­firmed that just after 9:30 a.m., New­town Police received a 911 call for an emer­gency at the ele­men­tary school. New­town Police con­tacted the Con­necti­cut State Police, request­ing assistance.

On– and off-duty troop­ers responded, along with a large num­ber of first respon­ders from through­out west­ern Connecticut.

Imme­di­ately upon arrival, police entered the school and began an active search for the shooter.

“Our main objec­tive was to evac­u­ate the school as quickly and effi­ciently as pos­si­ble of any and all stu­dents and fac­ulty,” he said.

Once the school was searched, a stag­ing area was set up behind the Sandy Hook Fire Depart­ment which is a quarter-mile from the school.

Par­ents were told to pick up their chil­dren from the stag­ing area pro­vided they sup­ply identification.

The scene at the stag­ing area was one of heart­break. Many par­ents were on their cell phones.

As they were leav­ing the stag­ing area, many of the chil­dren were wear­ing their par­ents’ coats and jack­ets because they were not allowed to go back into the school to get anything.

Lt. Vance indi­cated that no addi­tional infor­ma­tion on the fatal­i­ties will be released “until there is a com­plete and proper identification.”

“The shooter is deceased inside the build­ing,” he said, not­ing “a great deal of law enforce­ment activ­ity in and out of state, cov­er­ing all bases relat­ing to that individual.”

Many law enforce­ment agen­cies are work­ing together to answer ques­tions about what hap­pened, he said.

Early on, state police advised that the shooter, an adult, was dead, with two hand­guns found at the scene; later reports men­tioned a Glock and a rifle. Mul­ti­ple canine units were brought in to be sure there was not another shooter at large.

It was even­tu­ally learned that he had four guns, which were legally owned by his mother.

That search has since been called off.

Offi­cers believe one per­son fired the shots, but a sec­ond per­son seen leav­ing the school was taken into cus­tody to deter­mine if he had any role in the shoot­ing or was coin­ci­den­tally walk­ing into the school when the shoot­ing began.

CNN reported this morn­ing that the prin­ci­pal, vice prin­ci­pal and school psy­chol­o­gist went into a hall­way after hear­ing gun­shots. Only the vice prin­ci­pal returned to the room, shot in the foot and crawl­ing, to call 911.

The vice prin­ci­pal said there must have been “100 rounds, at least,” accord­ing to a CNN report.

Pres­i­dent Barack Obama was first noti­fied of the sit­u­a­tion at 10:30 a.m. by his national secu­rity advi­sor and was updated through­out the morning.

Accord­ing to reports, staff and stu­dents heard mul­ti­ple gun­shots over the loud speaker dur­ing morn­ing announce­ments. Teach­ers imme­di­ately locked class­room doors and cor­ralled stu­dents in the cor­ners of rooms.

Venesa Bhar­aliu, 9, told Voices she and some friends were walk­ing to the art room when they heard the gun­shots over the intercom.

“We tried to close both doors, but one didn’t lock and then we went into the office and cov­ered our­selves,” Venesa said.

She added that police told the chil­dren were to close their eyes and hold hands with the peo­ple next to them while they were lead out of the school. Venesa, how­ever, was not hold­ing anyone’s hand and said she saw “police car­ry­ing big guns.”

A reverse 911 call advised par­ents to stay home, near their phones. A sec­ond reverse 911 call told them to come to a stag­ing area behind the Sandy Hook Fire Depart­ment, where they were reunited with their children.

Tom Kelle­her of Sandy Hook was in dis­be­lief that a shoot­ing of this sever­ity could hap­pen in Sandy Hook. His 8-year-old daugh­ter was safe.

“Not here, not this school,” Mr. Kelle­her said. “This is very unusual.”

Therese Lestik of Sandy Hook received the call from the school and then saw what had hap­pened on the news before get­ting into her car to reach the school and her daugh­ter, Eva, who is in kinder­garten, as soon as possible.

“I’m in com­plete shock, Ms. Lestik said.

School dis­tricts in many neigh­bor­ing towns put schools on lock­down, includ­ing New­town, Mon­roe, Bethel and Brookfield.

Lock­down at other New­town schools were lifted at 12:30 p.m.

Three peo­ple were taken to Dan­bury Hos­pi­tal, where a strong police pres­ence remained out­side the emer­gency depart­ment. One of the three peo­ple was a teacher who was wounded in the foot.

The emer­gency depart­ment at Dan­bury Hos­pi­tal was put on lock­down to con­trol the flow of peo­ple, to pro­tect the con­fi­den­tial­ity of patients and to allow staff to work uninterrupted.

In a press con­fer­ence Fri­day morn­ing, Dan­bury Hos­pi­tal Pres­i­dent and CEO John Mur­phy offered his heart­felt sym­pa­thy to all affected by the tragedy.

While con­firm­ing that three vic­tims have been brought to the hos­pi­tal, he declined to give specifics.

Dr. Patrick Brod­er­ick, chair­man of the hospital’s emer­gency depart­ment, said the three were all eval­u­ated and man­aged by the hospital’s trauma service.

The hos­pi­tal had been alerted that patients would be trans­ported and teams were on standby and ready to care for patients when they arrived.

...

Given the com­pli­cated his­tory of past mass killings and how lit­tle infor­ma­tion we have avail­able about the CT shoot­ings at this point it would be absurd to rule out the pos­si­bil­ity that the shooter had help, espe­cially of the man in “camo pants” just hap­pened to be try­ing to enter the school at the same time as the shooter. Instead, on the same day of the attack the media and inves­ti­ga­tors embraced the idea that the shooter no help or influ­ence with­out ever resolv­ing the unde­ni­able fact that a sec­ond per­son was taken into cus­tody near the area of the mass killing. Recall that the arrest of the shooter’s brother, the one orig­i­nally iden­ti­fied as the shooter, sort of took over as “the sec­ond per­son in cus­tody” meme as the story unfolded. If there’s any fol­low up regard­ing the man in fatigues near the school taken in cus­tody I haven’t been able to find it. If any of this is hoax info that I’m spread­ing I deeply apol­o­gize for that. Unfor­tu­nately, given the cir­cum­stances and evi­dence at hand, we have to con­tinue con­sid­er­ing the pos­si­bil­ity that there was more going on here than the con­sen­sus nar­ra­tive sug­gests. It’s a con­se­quence of mass media mass amnesia.

Discussion

3 comments for “The camo pants coincidence in Newtown, CT”

  1. Very true, Dave. And a large part of that mass media amne­sia, I might add, is how they never seem to men­tion the pos­si­bil­ity of pre­scrip­tion drugs or fringe-right fas­cist agit­prop as at least cor­re­lat­ing, if not help­ing to cause, many of these shoot­ings, whether in New­town this month, or at Columbine in ’99. Sad thing is, they’ll just go straight to blam­ing vio­lent video games or men­tal dis­or­ders for it all. They’ve done that for as long as I can remem­ber, and it irks me greatly, because the media heads KNOW that it’s false.

    Posted by Steven L. | December 20, 2012, 7:47 am
  2. The Chicago Tri­bune of Decem­ber 17th had a story that iden­ti­fied Christo­pher Man­fre­do­nia, who was with his wife vol­un­teer­ing at the school which their daugh­ter attended, as being arrested. He appar­ently was arrested out­side the school as a pos­si­ble sus­pect in the mass con­fu­sion. How­ever, it is not at all clear whether or not if he was the same per­son that was arrested in the woods. Detain­ing peo­ple even with hand­cuffs in such a sit­u­a­tion is under­stand­able, but even­tu­ally hope­fully the whole story will come out.

    Posted by LarryFW | December 21, 2012, 12:34 am
  3. @LarryFW:
    See the new post on this topic and note the very recent update at the bot­tom. This whole story just got A LOT more mysterious.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | December 21, 2012, 8:39 am

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