Charles Manson
COMMENT: A story that broke during the election campaign of 2012 calls to mind a number of considerations.
It has been disclosed that phone taps on convicted Manson Family killer Tex Watson have information that may relate to 12 additional murders.
Portrayed by the media as a bunch of wayward hippies, the Manson group, in fact, had participation by neo-Nazi elements, as well as links to the intelligence community.
One wonders who the other victims might have been?
Might one of them have been Marina Habe, daughter of Hans Habe, an anti-fascist activist and journalist who worked for U.S. intelligence during World War II and afterward. Habe had been involved in attempting to foster a non-Nazi press establishment in postwar Germany, something that would not have sat well with the Underground Reich.
Was Marina killed in retaliation for her father’s activities?
Might the other victims allegedly discussed on the Watson tapes, or some of them, have been killed for political reasons?
In our next post, we will analyze evidentiary tributaries between the Robert Kennedy assassination and the Manson killings.
Marina Habe’s Murder
EXCERPT: The LAPD on Thursday announced it has open investigations on a dozen unsolved homicides near known Manson Family hangouts around Los Angeles.
The revelation came amid a legal battle to obtain hours of audio tape recordings between former Charles Manson follower and convicted murderer Charles “Tex” Watson and his lawyer.
“We have an obligation to the families of these victims,” Cmdr. Andy Smith told NBC4. “Our detectives need to listen to these tapes. The tapes might help with solving these murders.”
News of the open investigation was first reported by the Los Angeles Times Thursday and confirmed to NBC4 by LAPD officials. Smith told the Times the 12 murders they are investigating “are similar to some of the Manson killings.”
Manson and his followers shot to infamy in 1969 after the murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and four others at a Benedict Canyon home in the hills above Los Angeles. That rampage was followed the next night by the murders of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca in their Los Feliz home.
The unheard recordings sought by the LAPD were made more than four decades ago, after Watson’s arrest for his role in the Tate-LaBianca slayings.
LAPD’s effort to obtain the tapes was not known publicly until it was reported by NBC4 News in May. And Watson has been fighting to keep those tapes under wraps. Police believe they may hold clues to “additional unsolved murders committed by followers of Charles Manson.”
arlier this year, a court order authorized LAPD to take possession of the recordings, but Watson’s lawyer obtained a “stay” order effectively stopping the release of the tapes while his appeal is heard.
The LAPD tried to obtain the tapes using a search warrant, according to the Times. But on Oct. 9, a federal judge in Texas granted an emergency order barring police from executing a search warrant at an office where the tapes are kept.
Marina Elizabeth Habe; Wikipedia.
EXCERPT: Elizabeth Habe (1951 — December 29, 1968) was the daughter of Hans Habe and a student at the University of Hawaii. She was murdered while returning home from a date.[1] She may have been slain by members of the Manson family. Her body was discovered on New Years Day 1969 in dense underbrush off Mulholland Drive, 100 feet west of Bowmont Drive, in Los Angeles, California. She was found with contusions in the eyes, slashes in throat and heart, burns inflicted, raped and nude except for a shoe.[2]
Habe was abducted outside the home of her mother, actress Eloise Hardt, 8962 Cynthia Avenue, in West Hollywood while home for a vacation from the University of Hawaii. The residence was three blocks below Sunset Boulevard. The neighborhood was the location of a number of rapes in the weeks prior to Habe’s demise. Habe double dated with John Hornburg, 22, a family friend. She left the Hornburg residence at 3:15 a.m. in her sports car.[3]
A former Manson family associate said that members of the family knew her.[2]
EXCERPT: . . . .In 1930 he began to work as a reporter for the Wiener Sonn– und Montagspost (Vienna Sunday and Monday Post). In the following year he became Editor of the Österreichische Abendzeitung (Austrian Evening News), one of the youngest newspaper editors ever, at age 20. At this time he married his first wife, Margit Bloch. Early in 1934 he moved to the Wiener Morgen (Vienna Morning News). From 1935 to 1939 he was a Foreign Correspondent for the Prager Tagblatt (Prague Daily News), stationed mostly at Geneva, covering the League of Nations. In this capacity he was present at the Evian Conference in 1938, where he met again otolaryngologist Heinrich Neumann von Héthárs who had performed an operation upon Habe 13 years before, and was a friend of his family. Habe described the course of the Conference in his novel The Mission (1965). The focal point of the novel is the infamous offer made by the German government, and transmitted to the Conference by Neumann von Héthárs, to sell the Austrian Jews to foreign countries at a price of $250 per capita, and the Conference delegates’ refusal to accept. At this time Habe was married to his second wife, Erika Levy, the heiress of the Tungsram light bulb company.
World War II
After the Anschluss, Habe was expatriated and his books forbidden by the new Nazi government. He went into exile in France and joined the French Foreign Legion. In 1940 he was captured and interned in the Dieuze Dulag camp. From there he managed to escape with the help of French friends (to Lisbon) and emigrated to the United States. He became a US citizen in 1941. Here Habe married his third wife, Eleanor Post Hutton, heiress of General Foods, in 1942. They had a son, Anthony Niklas Habe. In 1942 he was drafted into the US Army and studied Psychological warfare at the Military Intelligence Training Center at Camp Ritchie, Maryland. Then he joined the 1st Mobile Radio Broadcasting Company, and went in March 1943 to North Africa and participated in Operation Avalanche, the landing in Italy. In 1944 he became an Instructor of Psychological Warfare at Camp Sharpe, near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. In autumn 1944 he selected a group of German writers and newspaper editors to prepare for the publishing of new newspapers after the war in Germany.
Newspaperman in Germany
In 1945 Habe returned to Germany in the wake of the occupying US Army. By November 1945 he had created 18 newspapers in the American Occupation Zone. Then he became Editor of the Neue Zeitung in Munich. At this time he was married for a short time with actress Ali Ghito. In 1949 he moved to the Münchner Illustrierte (Munich Illustrated), and in 1951 of the Echo der Woche (Echo of the Week). In 1948 he married his fifth wife, actress Eloise Hardt. In 1951 they had a daughter, Marina Elizabeth, who was murdered on 30 December 1968 in Los Angeles.[1] . . . .
Interesting info on the Manson family to be found by google search on ‘Inside Laurel Canyon’ how the CIA created the hippie movement.
According to al-Zawihiri, Bin Ladin was in the Muslim Brotherhood. I am certain that Al Qaeda’s current leader, Ayeman al-Zawihiri, is in the Muslim Brotherhood based on his activities. He was involved in assassination attempts against Nasser, Sadat, and Mubarek. There was some evidence that he may have had involvement in the first World Trade Center attack (El Mundo Comerciale Centrale). I am reading a 1999 book “Bin Laden the Man Who Declared War on America” by Yosssef Bodanski where he suggests that the Islamisists may have been involved in TWA 800 bombing, Oklahoma City Bombing, Khobar Towers, and Atlanta Olympics bombing. This book says that the ISI (Pakistan) Iran, and Sudan have been training terrorists and are against American and British, the Russians and now the French (Germany seems to avoid their radar).
On a separate note. The New American is Anti US Internationalist and is a publication of the John Birch Society — they have a cellular structure. They are very similar to America First whose objective was to keep the US out of WWII. My question is — was the John Birch Society created by the Underground Reich?
An old miscellaneous episode from the 1988–1990 timeframe of Dave’s put forward a pretty compelling and (in my view) watertight case that Family Member Bruce Davis was the Zodiac Killer (or at least one of them), the missing link back to the Church of Satan under Michael Aquino and the Presidio Child Abuse case back in 1988, for which I believe Acquino and his wife beat the rap on the basis that “Satanic Ritual Abuse does not exist”.
I also haven’t read it, but a recent book about the doings of Bruce Davis and other Manson Family members in London makes a strong case for Bruce having murdered Manson’s uncle on his orders (Charlie stated cryptically he sent some associates over to work some form of sex Magick and “cause an effect” by way of a visit to Stonehenge), but that would also more firmly and definitively tie them in with the Process Church of Final Judgement, which had its home base in Chelsea, off the King’s Road.
The dates certainly match up and Davis’ very public (and filmed) arrival at the trial to turn himself in (ostensibly on Charlie’s say-so), makes it an intruiging prospect and Davis is usually ignored in preference to the Tate-LaBianca murders.
Charlie had (and has) an influence way beyond his prison cell. Not to mention a lot of help.
What has never really been elucidated properly, in part because the original claim was confined to a single reference in the suppressed chapter of The Family concerning The Processians is the story of Sirhan Sirhan seen hanging around with them.
Sirhan certainly vanished from his home for a number of months in 1967 or so and returned without being able to give a proper account of himself or his whereabouts and returned to work at the stables where Arthur Bremer’s sister worked.
None of this makes any sense as a coincidence; but if the possibility exists that the Processians were responsible from Sirhan’s mental conditioning or had a hand in what became of him subsequently, his lawyer, Bill Pepper, really ought to be told....
Much more from Dave on the “Aryan Nations” series, xii-3e appx 24 minutes in.
Manson, Ed Butler, Patrick Frawley, Thane Eugene Cesar, Sharon Tate, Roman Polanski, and Robert Kennedy plus the aerospace industry contacts.