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FTR #418 A Fireside Chat

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This pro­gram is, as Mon­ty Python once said, “some­thing com­plete­ly dif­fer­ent.” Intend­ed as just what the title states it to be, this pro­gram is philo­soph­i­cal in nature, pro­vid­ing lis­ten­ers with some of Mr. Emory’s insights on what peo­ple should do in the face of the over­whelm­ing polit­i­cal real­i­ties of the time. The pro­gram also sets forth some of Mr. Emory’s per­spec­tives on his­tor­i­cal, psy­cho­log­i­cal, meta­phys­i­cal and spir­i­tu­al mat­ters. Although there are some ele­ments of text and schol­ar­ship as such in this broad­cast, it is pri­mar­i­ly rhetorical/philosophical in nature. As such, this writ­ten descrip­tion is rel­a­tive­ly brief.

1. Con­sid­er the sit­u­a­tion of the U.S. in recent years, in light of what is to fol­low. Imag­ine, also that this is what the Under­ground Reich is doing and intends to do to the Unit­ed States. It is Mr. Emory’s con­sid­ered opin­ion that this is in fact the case. (As will be dis­cussed in future broad­casts, the real­i­ty of con­tem­po­rary world pol­i­tics involves an “Under­ground Japan­ese Empire” as well. That, lit­er­al­ly, is an exten­sion of fas­cist Japan.)

There is no art high­er than that of destroy­ing the ene­my’s resis­tance with­out a fight on the bat­tle­field. The direct tac­tic of war is nec­es­sary only on the bat­tle­field; but only the indi­rect tac­tic can lead to a real and last­ing vic­to­ry.

(The Art of War by Sun-Tzu; Excerpt­ed in The Ser­vice: The Mem­oirs of Gen­er­al Rein­hard Gehlen.; World Pub­lish­ing Com­pa­ny; Copy­right 1972 [HC]; p.331.)


Sub­vert any­thing of val­ue in the ene­my’s coun­try. Impli­cate the emis­saries of the major pow­ers in crim­i­nal under­tak­ings; under­mine their posi­tion and destroy their rep­u­ta­tion in oth­er ways as well, and expose them to the pub­lic ridicule of their fel­low cit­i­zens.



Do not shun the aid of even the low­est and most despi­ca­ble peo­ple. Dis­rupt the work of their gov­ern­ment with every means you can.



Spread dis­uni­ty and dis­pute among the cit­i­zens of the ene­my’s coun­try. Turn the young against the old. Use every means to destroy their arms, their sup­plies, and the dis­ci­pline of the ene­my’s forces. Debase old tra­di­tions and accept­ed gods. Be gen­er­ous with promis­es and rewards to pur­chase intel­li­gence and accom­plices. Send out your secret agents in all direc­tions. Do not skimp with mon­ey or with promis­es, for they yield a high return.


5. Mr. Emory rec­om­mends that lis­ten­ers write at least one let­ter a month to the edi­tor of the local paper, an elect­ed rep­re­sen­ta­tive, or an exec­u­tive with a broad­cast media out­let more often if pos­si­ble. The broad­cast presents a good exam­ple of what can be said, if one puts his or her mind to it.

“ ‘GOP Seeks Last­ing Major­i­ty’ (July 21) is depress­ing and dis­heart­en­ing for any­one who real­ly cares about the future of our coun­try and our plan­et.”

(Let­ter to the edi­tor of the Los Ange­les Times; 7/26/2003; p. B27.)


“Why in the name of God (or GOP?) would any­one oth­er than rich peo­ple and pub­lic offi­cials with an ‘R’ des­ig­na­tion after their names want a per­ma­nent Repub­li­can con­trol of the U.S. and per­ma­nent bud­get deficits, per­ma­nent war, the per­ma­nent trash­ing of the envi­ron­ment (while it lasts), the per­ma­nent alien­ation of most of our allies, a per­ma­nent 20.7‑mpg auto fuel-effi­cien­cy stan­dard that wastes gaso­line and dri­ves glob­al warm­ing and Mid­dle East­ern oil wars, the per­ma­nent decline of every non­cor­po­rate insti­tu­tion and activ­i­ty in the U.S. and the per­ma­nent and con­tin­u­ous shov­el­ing of wealth up to the peo­ple who already have most of it?”



“Your arti­cle notes that the Demo­c­ra­t­ic Par­ty was the dom­i­nant par­ty for much of the 20th cen­tu­ry. That cen­tu­ry has been called ‘the Amer­i­can Cen­tu­ry.’ That’s a con­nec­tion, not a coin­ci­denceÑand Amer­i­can vot­ers should keep that in mind s they go to the polls in 2004, 2006, 2008 . . . well, per­ma­nent­ly.”


8. Among the rec­om­men­da­tions that Mr. Emory presents in the pro­gram are: min­i­miz­ing the use of tele­vi­sion. It is a waste of time and elec­tric­i­ty and has been proven to reduce synap­tic response in the neu­rons of the brain, as well as reduc­ing atten­tion span. One should also min­i­mize ener­gy con­sump­tion: car-pool, walk, ride a bicy­cle, use mass tran­sit. Avoid dri­ving to the max­i­mum extent pos­si­ble. Orga­nize read­ing and dis­cus­sion groups with friends. Read­ing increas­ing one’s sphere of knowl­edge and is excel­lent for the phys­i­cal health of the brain. Orga­niz­ing read­ing and dis­cus­sion groups will also min­i­mize ener­gy useÑy­ou won’t be dri­ving around wast­ing ener­gy and will be improv­ing your mind and broad­en­ing your political/intellectual hori­zons.

9. Final­ly, it is impor­tant to under­stand that there is a high­er pow­er out there. Mr. Emory clos­es the dis­cus­sion with a pre­sen­ta­tion of sci­en­tif­ic proof of some kind of high­er real­i­ty. Recent dis­cov­er­ies by astro physi­cists have deter­mined that har­mon­ics found in gas­es and sub­atom­ic par­ti­cles in space are the har­mon­ics of a sound, with which the orig­i­nal Big Bang took placeÑbe­gin­ning the cre­ation of the Uni­verse. Con­sid­er this event. If a sound began the uni­verse, what made the sound? There IS some high­er pow­er, and we may all take a degree of com­fort in that cer­tain­ty.

10. The pro­gram ends with read­ing of a sec­tion of They Thought They Were Free that was also read in FTR#417, as well an excerpt from All Hon­or­able Men by James Stew­art Mar­tin. In that pas­sage, he warns about the pos­si­bil­i­ty that eco­nom­ic cat­a­stro­phe in this coun­try could lead to the com­ing of fas­cism in the U.S. Mr. Emory opines that the Under­ground Reich and the Under­ground Japan­ese Empire intends to pre­cip­i­tate just such a cri­sis.


2 comments for “FTR #418 A Fireside Chat”

  1. Great Pro­gram. Very edi­fy­ing. I believe there is an ancient Vedic myth that speaks of the uni­verse being cre­at­ed with the first sound. I’ll have to look into that fur­ther when I have more time. Thanks again.

    Posted by GrumpusRex | January 30, 2012, 9:58 am
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