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FTR #473 John Loftus on the Arab-Nazi Network

Record­ed August 22, 2004
NB: This stream con­tains both FTR #s 473 and 474 in sequence. Each is a 30 minute broad­cast.

High­light­ing and clar­i­fy­ing the sub­ject of the Islam­o­fas­cist Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, this pro­gram presents the tran­script of a talk by the hero­ic John Lof­tus, whose work has graced these pages exten­sive­ly over the years. (For more about the fas­cist his­to­ry of the Broth­er­hood, see—among oth­er pro­grams—FTR#’s 343, 369, 381, 355, 356.) After dis­cussing the fas­cist ori­gins of the group and its alliance with the Third Reich dur­ing World War II, Lof­tus traces the Brotherhood’s post­war spon­sor­ship by both British intel­li­gence and the CIA. In addi­tion to set­ting forth the CIA’s role in relo­cat­ing many of the Broth­er­hood from Egypt to Sau­di Ara­bia in the 1950’s, Lof­tus traces the evo­lu­tion of the Broth­er­hood into the MAK—the name giv­en the anti-Sovi­et Broth­er­hood ele­ments active in Afghanistan in the 1980’s. After the defeat of the Sovi­ets in Afghanistan, the MAK evolved into al Qae­da.

Pro­gram High­lights Include: British Intelligence’s use of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood to crush the fledg­ling state of Israel; the CIA’s inser­tion of Broth­er­hood mem­bers into the Madras­sas (Sau­di Ara­bi­an reli­gious schools); Lof­tus’ role in gen­er­at­ing the 3/20/2002 Oper­a­tion Green Quest raids; Lof­tus’ role in help­ing to launch the law­suit on behalf of sur­vivors of the 9/11 attacks against fund­ing sources for al Qae­da.

1. Lof­tus begins by relat­ing how his expe­ri­ence as a Jus­tice Depart­ment inves­ti­ga­tor led to his aware­ness of the Holo­caust: “It always seems a lit­tle strange to have an Irish-Catholic talk­ing about Yom Ha Shoah. I had an unusu­al edu­ca­tion in the Holo­caust. When I was work­ing for the Attor­ney Gen­er­al, I was assigned to do the clas­si­fied research about the Holo­caust, so I went under­ground to a lit­tle town called Suit­land, Mary­land, right out­side Wash­ing­ton, D.C. and that’s where the US Gov­ern­ment buries its secrets—literally. There are twen­ty vaults under­ground and each vault is one acre in size. Any­one see the movie ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’? The last scene of that movie is what the under­ground vaults are real­ly like, only not as orga­nized as they are in the movie. And in those under­ground vaults I dis­cov­ered some­thing hor­ri­ble. I learned that many of the Nazis that I had been assigned to pros­e­cute were on the CIA pay­roll, but the CIA didn’t know they were Nazis because the British Intel­li­gence Ser­vice had lied to them. What the British Intel­li­gence Ser­vice didn’t know was that their liar was Kim Phil­by, the Sovi­et com­mu­nist dou­ble agent—a lit­tle scan­dal of the Cold War. But our State Depart­ment swept it all under the rug and allowed the Nazis to stay in Amer­i­ca until I was stu­pid enough to go pub­lic with it.”
(“The Arab Nazi-Al Qae­da Con­nec­tion” by John Lof­tus; Jew­ish Com­mu­ni­ty News; August/2004; p. 18.)

2. “What do you do when you want to go pub­lic with a sto­ry like this one? You call up 60 min­utes. We had a great time. Mike Wal­lace gave me 30 min­utes on his show. For a long time, it was the longest seg­ment that 60 min­utes ever did. When the episode about Nazis in Amer­i­ca went on the air back in 1982, it caused a minor nation­al uproar. Con­gress demand­ed hear­ings, Mike Wal­lace got the Emmy award, and my fam­i­ly got the death threats. It was a great trip.” (Idem.)

3. Lof­tus has become coun­sel and out­let for a num­ber of vet­er­an intel­li­gence agents as a result of his inves­ti­ga­tions of Nazis in the 1980’s. “Then a fun­ny thing hap­pened. Over the last 25 years, every retired spy in the U.S. and Cana­da and Eng­land all want­ed me to be their lawyer, for free of course. So I had 500 clients, they paid me $1 apiece. So I am the worst paid lawyer in Amer­i­ca, but among the bet­ter employed.” (Idem.)

4. Begin­ning the dis­cus­sion of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, Lof­tus relates how he first encoun­tered the his­tor­i­cal record of the organization’s employ­ment by the Third Reich, British intel­li­gence and (final­ly) the CIA. “Let me give you an exam­ple. This year a friend of mine from the CIA, named Bob Baer wrote a very good book about Sau­di Ara­bia and ter­ror­ism, it’s called Sleep­ing with the Dev­il. I read the book and I got about a third of the way through and I stopped. Bob was writ­ing about how, when he worked for the CIA, how bad the files were. He said, for exam­ple, the files for the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood were almost noth­ing. There were just a few news­pa­per clip­pings. I called Bob up and said, ‘Bob, that’s wrong. The CIA has enor­mous files on the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, vol­umes of them. I know because I read them a quar­ter of a cen­tu­ry ago.’ He said, ‘What do you mean?’ Here’s how you can find all of the miss­ing secrets about the Mus­lim Brotherhood—and you can do this too. I said, ‘Bob go to your com­put­er and type in two words into the search part. Type the word ‘Ban­na’ B‑A-N-N‑A. He said, ‘Yeah.’ Type in ‘Nazi.’ Bob typed the two words in, and out came 30 to 40 arti­cles from around the world. He read them and called me back and said, ‘Oh my god, what have we done?’” (Idem.)

5. Trac­ing the evo­lu­tion of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood into al Qae­da, Lof­tus relates the his­to­ry of the orga­ni­za­tion, begin­ning with the organization’s polit­i­cal mar­riage with the Third Reich. “What I’m doing today is doing what I’m doing now: I’m edu­cat­ing a new gen­er­a­tion in the CIA that the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood was a fas­cist orga­ni­za­tion that was hired by West­ern Intel­li­gence that evolved over time into what we today know as al Qae­da.” (Idem.)

6. “Here’s how the sto­ry began. In the 1920’s there was a young Egypt­ian named al Ban­na. And al Ban­na formed this nation­al­ist group called the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood. Al Ban­na was a devout admir­er of Adolph Hitler and wrote to him fre­quent­ly. So per­sis­tent was he in his admi­ra­tion of the new Nazi Par­ty that in the 1930’s, al Ban­na and the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood became a secret arm of Nazi Intel­li­gence. The Arab Nazis had much in com­mon with the new Nazi doc­trines. They hat­ed Jews; they hat­ed democ­ra­cy; and they hat­ed the West­ern cul­ture. It became the offi­cial pol­i­cy of the Third Reich to secret­ly devel­op the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood as the Fifth Col­umn, an army inside Egypt.” (Idem.)

7. “When war broke out, the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood promised in writ­ing that they would rise up and help Gen­er­al Rom­mel and make sure that no Eng­lish or Amer­i­can sol­dier was left alive in Cairo or Alexan­dria. The Mus­lim Broth­er­hood began to expand in scope and influ­ence dur­ing World War II. They even had a Pales­tin­ian sec­tion head­ed by the grand Mufti of Jerusalem, one of the great big­ots of all time. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood rep­re­sen­ta­tive for Pales­tine. These were undoubt­ed­ly Arab Nazis. The Grand Mufti, for exam­ple, went to Ger­many dur­ing the war and helped recruit an inter­na­tion­al SS divi­sion of Arab Nazis. They based it in Croa­t­ia and called in the ‘Hand­jar’ Mus­lim Divi­sion, but it was to become the core of Hitler’s new army of Arab fas­cists that would con­quer the Arab penin­su­la from then on to Africa—grand dreams.” (Idem.)

8. Next, Lof­tus sets forth the man­ner in which the Broth­er­hood jumped from the ser­vice of the Third Reich to ser­vice on behalf of the British, who used them against the fledg­ling state of Israel in the 1940’s. “At the end of World War II, the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood was want­ed for war crimes. Their Ger­man intel­li­gence han­dlers were cap­tured in Cairo. The whole net was rolled up by the British Secret Ser­vice. Then a hor­ri­ble thing hap­pened. Instead of pros­e­cut­ing the Nazis—the Mus­lim Brotherhood—the British gov­ern­ment hired them.” (Idem.)

9. “They brought all the fugi­tive Nazi war crim­i­nals of Arab and Mus­lim descent into Egypt, and for three years they were trained on a spe­cial mis­sion. The British Secret Ser­vice want­ed to use the fas­cists of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood to strike down the infant state of Israel in 1948. Only a few peo­ple in the Mossad know this, but many of the mem­bers of the Arab Armies and ter­ror­ist groups that tried to stran­gle the infant State of Israel were the Arab Nazis of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood.” (Ibid.; pp. 18–19.)

10. After their tenure work­ing for the British, the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood found employ­ment with the CIA, work­ing in an anti-com­mu­nist capac­i­ty through­out the Mid­dle East. “Britain was not alone. The French Intel­li­gence ser­vice coop­er­at­ed by releas­ing the Grand Mufti and smug­gling him to Egypt, so all of the Arab Nazis came togeth­er. So, from 1945 to 1948, the British Secret Ser­vice pro­tect­ed every Arab Nazi they could, but they failed to quash the State of Israel. What the British did then, they sold the Arab Nazis to the pre­de­ces­sor of what became the CIA. It may sound stu­pid; it may sound evil, but it did hap­pen. The idea was that we were going to use the Arab Nazis in the Mid­dle East as a coun­ter­weight to the Arab com­mu­nists. Just as the Sovi­et Union was fund­ing Arab com­mu­nists, we would fund the Arab Nazis to fight against [them]. And lots of secret class­es took place. We kept the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood on our pay­roll.” (Ibid.; p. 19.)

11. After their expul­sion from Egypt by Nass­er, many of the Brotherhood’s key per­son­nel were relo­cat­ed to Sau­di Ara­bia by the CIA. In Sau­di Ara­bia, many of them assumed promi­nence in that benight­ed country’s theo­crat­ic infra­struc­ture. Lof­tus notes that Wah­habi­ism has been reject­ed and labeled a heresy by the vast major­i­ty of the world’s Mus­lims. (For more about this, see—among oth­er pro­grams—FTR#’s 362, 406, 430.) “But the Egyp­tians became ner­vous. Nass­er ordered all of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood out of Egypt, or else he would imprison or exe­cute them all. Dur­ing the 1950’s, the CIA evac­u­at­ed the Nazis of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood to Sau­di Ara­bia. Now when they arrived in Sau­di Ara­bia, some of the lead­ing lights of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood like [Abdul­lah] Azzam, became the teach­ers in the Madras­sas, the reli­gious schools. And there they com­bined the doc­trines of Nazism with this weird Islam­ic cult, Wah­habi­ism. Every­one thinks that Islam is this fanat­i­cal reli­gion, but it is not. They think that Islam—the Sau­di ver­sion of Islam—is typ­i­cal, but it’s not. The Wah­habi cult was con­demned as a heresy more than 60 times by the Mus­lim nations. But when the Saud­is got wealthy, they bought a lot of silence. This is a very harsh cult. The Wah­habi­ism was only prac­ticed by two nations, the Tal­iban and Sau­di Ara­bia. That’s how extreme it is. It real­ly has noth­ing to do with Islam. Islam is a very peace­ful and tol­er­ant reli­gion. It has always had good rela­tion­ships with the Jews for the first thou­sand years of its exis­tence.” (Idem.)

12. Osama bin Laden was men­tored by Abdul­lah Azzam—a key Broth­er­hood fig­ure who was among those relo­cat­ed to Sau­di Ara­bia by the CIA. “For the Saud­is, there was a ruler in charge of Sau­di Ara­bia, and that coun­try was the new home of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, and fas­cism and extrem­ism were min­gled in these schools. And there was a young stu­dent who paid attention—and Azzam’s stu­dent was named Osama bin Laden. Osama bin Laden was taught by the Nazis of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood who had emi­grat­ed to Sau­di Ara­bia.” (Idem.)

13. Next, Lof­tus high­lights the CIA’s res­ur­rec­tion of the Broth­er­hood and the agency’s employ­ment of the Islam­o­fas­cist orga­ni­za­tion as com­bat­ants against the Sovi­ets in Afghanistan. The Broth­er­hood was recast as the MAK. “In 1979, the CIA decid­ed to take the Arab Nazis out of cold stor­age. The Rus­sians had invad­ed Afghanistan, so we told the Saud­is that we would fund them if they would bring all of the Arab Nazis togeth­er and ship them off to Afghanistan to fight the Rus­sians. We had to rename them. We couldn’t call them the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood because that was too sen­si­tive a name. Its Nazi cast was too known. So we called them the Mak­tab al Khidi­mat il Mujahideen, the MAK. And the CIA lied to Con­gress and said they didn’t know who was on the pay­roll in Afghanistan, except the Saud­is. But it was not true. A small sec­tion of the CIA knew per­fect­ly well that we had once again hired the Arab Nazis and that we were using them to fight our secret wars.” (Idem.)

14. Recap­ping infor­ma­tion from FTR#465, the pro­gram high­lights the fact that the elder George Bush over­saw the oper­a­tions of the MAK in the 1980’s. “Specif­i­cal­ly, as vice pres­i­dent in the mid-eight­ies, Bush sup­port­ed aid­ing the mujahideen in Afghanistan through the Mak­tab al-Khi­damat (MAK) or Ser­vices Offices, which sent mon­ey and fight­ers to the Afghan resis­tance in Peshawar. ‘Bush was in charge of the covert oper­a­tions that sup­port­ed the MAK,’ says John Lof­tus, a Jus­tice Depart­ment offi­cial in the eight­ies. ‘They were essen­tial­ly hir­ing a ter­ror­ist to fight ter­ror­ism.’”
(House of Bush, House of Saud by Craig Unger; Scrib­n­er [HC]; Copy­right 2004 by Craig Unger; ISBN 0–7432-5337‑X; p. 102.)

15. “Cofound­ed by Osama bin Laden and Abdul­lah Azzam, the MAK was the pre­cur­sor to bin Laden’s glob­al ter­ror­ist net­work, Al Qae­da. It sent mon­ey and fight­ers to the Afghan resis­tance in Peshawar, Pak­istan, and set up recruit­ment cen­ters in over fifty coun­tries includ­ing Egypt, Sau­di Ara­bia, Pak­istan, and even the Unit­ed States to bring thou­sands of war­riors to fight the Sovi­et Union. The MAK was lat­er linked to the 1993 bomb­ing of the World Trade Cen­ter in New York through an office in Brook­lyn known as the Al-Kifah Refugee Cen­ter. It is not clear how much con­tact he had with bin Laden, but Sheikh Omar Abdel Rah­man, the ‘Blind Sheikh,’ was mas­ter­mind­ed the 1993 bomb­ing of the World Trade Cen­ter, also appeared in Peshawar on occa­sion.” (Idem.)

16. Return­ing to Lof­tus’ address, we exam­ine how the defeat of the Sovi­ets in Afghanistan led to the for­ma­tion of al Qae­da: “Azzam and his assis­tant, Osama bin Laden, rose to some promi­nence from 1979 to ’89, and they won the war. They drove the Rus­sians out of Afghanistan. Our CIA said, ‘We won, let’s go home!’ and we left this army of Arab fas­cists in the fields of Afghanistan.” (Idem.)

17. In order to pre­vent the MAK/Brotherhood from return­ing to Sau­di Ara­bia, that country’s pow­er elite began pay­ing bribes—in essence “pro­tec­tion money”–to al Qae­da. This devel­op­ment and a schism in the MAK spawned al Qae­da in its present form. “The Saud­is didn’t want them to come back. Saud­is start­ed pay­ing bribes to Osama bin Laden and his fol­low­ers to stay out of Sau­di Ara­bia. Now the MAK split in half. Azzam was mys­te­ri­ous­ly assas­si­nat­ed, appar­ent­ly by Osama bin Laden him­self. The rad­i­cal group—the most rad­i­cal of the merge of the Arab fas­cists and reli­gious extremists—Osama called that al Qae­da. But to this day there are branch­es of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood all through al Qae­da. Osama bin Laden’s sec­ond in com­mand, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came from the Egypt­ian branch of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, the Egypt­ian Islam­ic Jihad, the residue of a Pales­tin­ian Islam­ic Jihad. There are many fla­vors and branch­es, but they are all Mus­lim Broth­er­hoods. There is one in Israel. The orga­ni­za­tion you know as ‘Hamas’ is actu­al­ly a secret chap­ter of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood. When Israel assas­si­nat­ed Sheik Yassin a month ago, the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood pub­lished his obit­u­ary in a Cairo news­pa­per in Ara­bic and revealed that he was actu­al­ly the secret leader of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood in Gaza. So the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood became this poi­son that spread through­out the Mid­dle East and on 911, it began to spread around the world.” (Ibid.; pp. 19–21.)

18. “I know this sounds like some sort of a sick fan­ta­sy, but go to your com­put­er and type in the words ‘Ban­na,’ B‑A-N-N‑A and the word ‘Nazi’ N‑A-Z‑I, and you will see all of the arti­cles come up. Those are all the pieces of infor­ma­tion that the CIA was try­ing to hide from its employ­ees. It did not want them to know the awful past.” (Ibid.; p. 21.)

19. “So in 1984, when I was expos­ing Euro­pean Nazis on the CIA pay­roll, at the same time they were try­ing to hide from Con­gress the fact that they had Arab Nazis back on the pay­roll to fight the Russians—a stu­pid and cor­rupt pro­gram. So, when Bob Baer stud­ied his files, he was just stunned. A whole gen­er­a­tion: the cur­rent CIA peo­ple know noth­ing about this. And believe me, the cur­rent gen­er­a­tion CIA are good and decent Amer­i­cans and I like them a lot. They’re try­ing to do a good job, but part of their prob­lem is their files have been shred­ded. All of these secrets have to come out.” (Idem.)

20. Next, Lof­tus relates how his intel­li­gence contacts/clients turned him on to the pri­ma­ry Islamist fund­ing appa­ra­tus in the coun­try. In turn, his law­suit against Sami al-Ari­an led to the Oper­a­tion Green Quest raids of 3/20/2002. (For more about Oper­a­tion Green Quest, see—among oth­er pro­grams—FTR#’s 356, 357, 382, 387, 406, 423, 425, 432, 433, 435, 462, 464, 467.) “So, of course, my clients in the intel­li­gence com­mu­ni­ty said, ‘Well, what are you doing?’ They gave me an exam­ple. They said, ‘Here’s how the Saud­is finance these groups. The Saud­is have estab­lished a group of char­i­ties on a street in Vir­ginia. It’s 555 Grove St., Hern­don, Vir­ginia.’ So I said, ‘OK the Saud­is are ter­ror­ists, so what?’ These char­i­ties fund Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, Hamas, Hezbol­lah, al Qae­da. The Saud­is are get­ting tax deduc­tions for ter­ror­ism. They have set up front groups so all the ter­ror­ists groups in the U.S. and the front groups get the Sau­di mon­ey as a char­i­ta­ble dona­tion.” (Idem.)

21. “I said, ‘You’re kid­ding me.’ Nope. And they told me that right near where I lived in Tam­pa, Flori­da was one of the lead­ing ter­ror­ists in the world. There were these two pro­fes­sors at the Uni­ver­si­ty of South Flori­da. One had just left—and he was now in Syria—and he was the world head of Islam­ic Jihad. His num­ber two, the head of Islam­ic Jihad in the West­ern Hemi­sphere, was Dr. Sami al-Ari­an, who is still employed as a pro­fes­sor at the Uni­ver­si­ty of South Flori­da. You’ve got to be kid­ding. This can’t be true. Yes, these guys are rais­ing mon­ey all across Amer­i­ca and ship­ping it to Syr­ia to go down to Pales­tine, the Pales­tin­ian areas, and hire sui­cide bombers to kill Jews.” (Idem.)

22. “They sent me the video tapes. There was Pro­fes­sor al-Ari­an on stage and one of his friends gets up and says, ‘Now, who will give me $500 to kill a Jew? There are peo­ple stand­ing by in Jerusalem who will go out in the street and stab a Jew with a knife, but we need $500.’ And he said, ‘All of this mon­ey will go to the Islam­ic com­mit­tee for Pales­tine.’ And that is the front group in the Unit­ed States for the Pales­tin­ian Islam­ic Jihad.” (Idem.)

23. “So I had all my friends in the FBI and CIA send in these files. I said, ‘Why haven’t you pros­e­cut­ed this guy? You’ve known about him since 1989.’ ‘We’d love to. We’ve tried to pros­e­cute him but we were told we couldn’t touch him because he gets all of his mon­ey from the Saud­is, and we are all under orders not to do any­thing to embar­rass the Sau­di gov­ern­ment.’ I said, ‘I don’t mind embar­rass­ing them.’” (Idem.)

24. “You know what I did? I donat­ed mon­ey to the char­i­ty that was the ter­ror­ist fund, because under Flori­da law, that gave me the right to sue the char­i­ty to find out where my mon­ey was going. It was hilar­i­ous. In ear­ly March, 2002, I draft­ed a long law­suit expos­ing Pro­fes­sor Sami al-Ari­an, nam­ing all the crimes he’d com­mit­ted, all the bomb­ings in Israel, the fundrais­ing in Amer­i­ca with ter­ror­ism. I men­tioned how his mon­ey got to him from the Saud­is and how the Saud­is had con­vinced our gov­ern­ment not to pros­e­cute him for polit­i­cal rea­sons. Because of my high-lev­el secu­ri­ty clear­ances, every­thing I write is sort of clas­si­fied mate­r­i­al and has to be sent back to the gov­ern­ment before pub­li­ca­tion, for cen­sor­ship. So I sent my long law­suit com­plaint to the CIA, and they loved it. They said, ‘Oh, great. We don’t like the Saud­is either. Go sue them.’” (Idem.)

25. “Three days lat­er two FBI agents showed up at my door, say­ing, ‘You know, there are only 21 peo­ple in the U.S. gov­ern­ment that knew some of this infor­ma­tion, and now you’re 22. How did you find out?’ I said, ‘I’m sor­ry, I can’t tell you, attor­ney-client priv­i­lege.’ That’s why my clients pay me $1.00 each.” (Idem.)

26. “The day before I went to file the law­suit, I got a fran­tic phone call from the Unit­ed States Depart­ment of jus­tice. They said, ‘John, please don’t file the law­suit tomor­row. We real­ly are going to raid these Sau­di char­i­ties. We’re going to close them down. Just give us more time.’ ‘Oh yeah, you’re going to raid them. That’s what you told me in January—and again in Feb­ru­ary, and now it’s March. You want more time? I’ll give you until 4:00 o’clock tomor­row. I’m fil­ing my com­plaint at 10:00 a.m., so that at 4p.m., I’m going to release the address of the Sau­di char­i­ties.” (Idem.)

27. “Back tomor­row. I filed my law­suit at 10:00 o’clock, and told the press I was going to hold some­thing back for a lit­tle bit. At 10:15, the U.S. Gov­ern­ment launched Oper­a­tion Green Quest, a mas­sive raid on all the Sau­di char­i­ties in homes and busi­ness­es, and in one hour we shut down the entire Sau­di mon­ey-laun­der­ing net­work in Amer­i­ca.” (Ibid.; p. 23.)

28. “From March 20, 2002 to the present, the gov­ern­ment has found more and more evi­dence seized in those archives on that sin­gle raid that day. The evi­dence was so com­pelling that Pro­fes­sor al-Ari­an is no longer giv­ing his speech­es. He is now in fed­er­al prison await­ing tri­al. His accom­plice, Ham­moudeh, has also been indict­ed. Some 32 dif­fer­ent peo­ple have been indict­ed in the Unit­ed States as a direct result of these efforts.” (Idem.)

29. In addi­tion to his piv­otal role in pre­cip­i­tat­ing the 3/20/2002 Oper­a­tion Green Quest raids, Lof­tus played a deci­sive part in devel­op­ing the tril­lion-dol­lar law­suit against the Saud­is and oth­ers impli­cat­ed in the fund­ing of al Qae­da. “But not the Saudis—not the Saud­is. A month after I filed my law­suit against al-Ari­an, I did it: I caused some trou­ble. I invit­ed some 40 of the top tri­al lawyers in Amer­i­ca to come down to St. Peters­burg, Flori­da. Boy, did I have a deal for them. I want­ed them to put up mil­lions of dol­lars of their own money—I’m poor, I had no mon­ey to give them—but I want­ed to do some­thing for Amer­i­ca. These are lawyers like Ron Mot­ley that had won bil­lions of dol­lars in their law­suits against the tobac­co indus­try and the asbestos indus­try. I said, ‘What I want you to do is look at the evi­dence I’ve col­lect­ed. It’s the same Sau­di banks and char­i­ties that fund­ed Sami al-Ari­an that also fund­ed al-Qae­da.’ I said, ‘I want you to bring a class action in Fed­er­al Court in Wash­ing­ton on behalf of every­one who died on Sept. 11th. I’m going to work for free and col­lect all the evi­dence, intro­duce you to the experts, pro­vide all the exhibits and doc­u­ments . . . and we have to do this for Amer­i­ca.’ The lawyers stud­ied all the doc­u­ments I col­lect­ed, and on August 15, 2002, they filed the largest class-action law­suit in Amer­i­can his­to­ry in the Fed­er­al Dis­trict Court in Wash­ing­ton D.C., ask­ing for one tril­lion dol­lars dam­ages against the Saud­is.” (Idem.)

30. “The law­suit said essen­tial­ly that all these Sau­di banks had one thing in com­mon. They were brib­ing Osama bin Laden 300 mil­lion dol­lars a year to stay out of Sau­di Ara­bia and go blow up some­one else. Well, on 911, we found out we were some­one else, and the Saud­is had to pay for their neg­li­gence. So that law­suit is com­ing along very well.” (Idem.)

31. Lof­tus’ hero­ic efforts have led to his hav­ing some media access on major media out­lets. “And more and more peo­ple in the CIA and FBI are sort of using me as a back chan­nel to get out infor­ma­tion. So, believe it or not, they’ve actu­al­ly giv­en me my own TV show now on Sun­day morn­ings on FOX TV nation­wide. I’m on at 11:20 east­ern stan­dard time. And ABC Radio has giv­en me a nation­al radio pro­gram, but I’m on at 10:30 at night and it’s past your bed­time.” (Idem.)

32. Lof­tus sums up the evo­lu­tion­ary path of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood from Nazi allies to the MAK to al Qae­da: “What I’ve become in my old age is a teacher. Twen­ty-five years ago I was a lot younger, a lot thin­ner, but now every day I get 500 to 1,000 e‑mails from hon­est men and women around the world from the intel­li­gence com­mu­ni­ty. And we have to end the evil in this world. We have to rec­og­nize that al-Qae­da sim­ply didn’t spring up on its own. The evil root was Nazism. The al-Qae­da Doc­trine is the same as the Arab Nazis held. They hat­ed Jews, they hate democ­ra­cy, and they hate West­ern­ers for West­ern cul­ture. Al Qae­da is noth­ing more than the reli­gious expres­sion of Arab Fas­cism. We allowed this branch of the Nazi trunk to sur­vive, to flour­ish, and it has come back to haunt us.”


7 comments for “FTR #473 John Loftus on the Arab-Nazi Network”

  1. Kim Phil­by did­n’t put the Arab Nazis into West­ern intel­li­gence to
    embarass them, he put them there for the same rea­sons as the oth­er nazis. To infil­trate and sub­vert.
    Phil­by was work­ing for the Axis, not the Rus­sians. The good guys knew he was a trai­tor, but the Ger­mans could­n’t allow the idea that there was a Ger­man spy in British intel post-war com­ing to light, so it was made sure Phil­by went to Rus­sia (he had been report­ing to the Ger­mans via a Russ­ian cut-out any­way). Phil­by was a fas­cist sym­pa­thiz­er, always had been.

    To under­stand Phil­by, one must under­stand his father;


    Posted by GW | November 22, 2012, 2:07 pm
  2. GW: This is the first I’ve heard any­one sug­gest that Kim Phil­by was a triple agent. It has made sense to me for some time that he prob­a­bly was but I’ve looked for hints in the works of Lof­tus and oth­ers and just nev­er real­ly seen any kind of con­fir­ma­tion in that direc­tion. Is there some­thing that you could rec­om­mend I read?

    Posted by brad | November 22, 2012, 5:58 pm
  3. @Brad

    Sor­ry, noth­ing I can pub­licly point to that will tell you defin­i­tive­ly.

    How­ev­er, all the details are there in the pub­lic domain if you look at his back­ground, his father, Ger­man pen­e­tra­tion and recruit­ment in Britain in the 1930s, and the fact that most of the ‘com­mies’ he lat­er dealt with were actu­al­ly Ger­man.

    In fact the idea he was Ger­man intel­li­gence (irrel­e­vant of left or right) should have always been the first the­o­ry.

    What I can say, is that Phil­by and Burgess were part­ly respon­si­ble for the low attri­tion rate of SOE agents in occu­pied France/Netherlands/Norway. And MI6 was so bad­ly infil­trat­ed it was a defac­to Ger­man intel­li­gence oper­a­tion. One of the many rea­sons Churchill formed his own (SOE), was because ALL, repeat, ALL MI6 agents in europe were revealed or turned in 1940!
    MI6 was fin­ished. Total­ly paral­ysed.
    It only sur­vived, thanks to Lt Col Sir Claude Dansey, who had spot­ted the prob­lem with MI6 before­hand and formed his own shad­ow intel­li­gence net­work of patri­ot­ic busi­ness­men. He sin­gle hand­ed­ly saved MI6, yet he was shunned and died of ‘heart prob­lems’ in 1947. The fact that oth­er coun­try’s intel­li­gence agen­cies knew about the total fail­ure of MI6 in 1940, is the rea­son Ian Flem­ing wrote the Bond books, to help pro­pa­gan­dise a decent image for the ser­vice post-war.

    Burgess was one of the main play­ers that helped keep Churchill off the BBC air­waves until 1938.

    One of the oth­er Ger­man agents not out­ed until the 1960s, was called Dick Ellis. Ellis helped form the OSS and Aus­tralian MI6, help­ing fill them with Ger­man agents from their very incep­tion.

    The truth of Phil­by is in there ;)

    Posted by GW | November 24, 2012, 7:20 pm
  4. @GW–

    We’ve cov­ered Bridger St. John (“Jack”) Phil­by in a num­ber of broad­casts. FTR #361 being but one.

    BTW–I saw an arti­cle in “Der Spiegel” or one of the oth­er Ger­man mag­a­zines with the for­mer KGB offi­cer who recruit­ed Kim Phil­by.

    He said that he was specif­i­cal­ly recruit­ed to spy on his father!

    Keep Up the Great Work!


    Posted by Dave Emory | November 25, 2012, 6:49 pm
  5. Yeah, the claim he was work­ing for the Sovi­ets of course came from the Ger­mans, hence you see­ing that in the Ger­man media.

    They are not as clever as they like to think, and give away an awful lot in their pro­pa­gan­da. You can pret­ty much read Ger­man media and guess the oppo­site is actu­al­ly true with intel­li­gence relat­ed mat­ters.

    Its almost like Ger­many has been get­ting their way for so long that they have become lazy. Some of their colum­nists seem to write like they are des­per­ate to come out of the clos­et and rant about Jews, or Anglo Cap­i­tal­ism, but they know they still can’t quite get away with being open. Like Dr Strangelove near­ly shoot­ing his hand in the air to salute a Heil, and then real­is­ing he can’t do that in present com­pa­ny.

    As Ger­many con­sol­i­dates pow­er over Europe in the next cou­ple of years, they will become much more con­fi­dent vocal­ly, like any group that gets cocky when it repeat­ed­ly gets away with crim­i­nal acts.

    Posted by GW | November 25, 2012, 8:12 pm
  6. Thanks so much to both of you for the amaz­ing infor­ma­tion. I great­ly appre­ci­ate the feed­back!

    Posted by brad | November 26, 2012, 3:44 am
  7. http://nypost.com/2017/05/22/suspect-to-cops-i-killed-two-roommates-for-disrespecting-my-muslim-faith/

    Dave, one of the room­mates, who is a Nation­al Guard Reservist, arrived after the event; inves­ti­ga­tors found HMTD — hexmeth­yl­ene tiper­ox­ide diamine and over a pound of ammo­ni­um nitrate and a framed pic­ture of Tim­o­thy McVeigh in his bed­room!

    He is a mem­ber of Atom­waf­fen.


    New York Post

    A Flori­da man who once had com­mon neo-Nazi beliefs with his two room­mates killed them after he con­vert­ed to Islam, claim­ing they had dis­re­spect­ed his faith, police say.

    Devon Arthurs, 18, of Tam­pa, told police he shot Jere­my Him­mel­man, 22, and Andrew Oneschuk, 18, on Fri­day at the Hamp­tons at Tam­pa Palms com­plex after becom­ing upset about wide­spread anti-Mus­lim sen­ti­ment, say­ing he “want­ed to bring atten­tion to the cause,” accord­ing to a police report obtained by the Tam­pa Bay Times.

    Arthurs then briefly held an employ­ee and cus­tomers hostage at the near­by Green Plan­et Smoke Shop, where he boast­ed that he had just killed his room­mates, “blast­ing their head” with a semi-auto­mat­ic pis­tol.

    “Do me a favor and get the f— on the ground!” Arthurs yelled as he stormed into the store. “Why shouldn’t I kill you?”

    He said he was upset that Amer­i­ca was bomb­ing Mus­lim coun­tries, Tam­pa Bay police Detec­tive Ken­neth Nightlinger wrote in a police report.

    Arthurs even­tu­al­ly freed his hostages and sur­ren­dered, mak­ing ref­er­ences to “Allah Mohammed” as cops took him to a patrol cruis­er.

    “I had to do it,” Arthurs said, accord­ing to the report. “This wouldn’t have had to hap­pen if your coun­try didn’t bomb my coun­try.”

    When asked if any­one else was hurt, Arthurs replied: “The peo­ple in the apart­ment, but they’re not hurt, they’re dead.”

    Inside the Amber­ly Dri­ve apart­ment, Him­mel­man and Oneschuk were found shot in the head and upper body, accord­ing to the police report.

    Stand­ing just out­side the unit was anoth­er of Arthurs’ room­mates, Bran­don Rus­sell, who was wear­ing US Army cam­ou­flage after return­ing to the apart­ment from the Nation­al Guard. Inves­ti­ga­tors searched the apartment’s garage and found an explo­sive known as HMTD — hexmeth­yl­ene tiper­ox­ide diamine, accord­ing to a crim­i­nal com­plaint filed in US Dis­trict Court.

    More than a pound of ammo­ni­um nitrate was also found in a pack­age addressed to Rus­sell, an admit­ted neo-Nazi whose bed­room was adorned with a framed pho­to­graph of Okla­homa City bomber Tim­o­thy McVeigh, who was con­vict­ed and exe­cut­ed for bomb­ing the Alfred P. Mur­rah Fed­er­al Build­ing in Okla­homa City in 1995. Rus­sell admit­ted to being a mem­ber of a white suprema­cy group called the Atom­waf­fen.

    Inves­ti­ga­tors also found emp­ty bul­let cas­ings with fus­es that could be used to det­o­nate the explo­sive mate­r­i­al. Rus­sell was stopped by deputies on Sun­day while dri­ving south on US 1, but author­i­ties did not indi­cate why he was pulled over, the Mia­mi Her­ald reports.

    Arthurs told inves­ti­ga­tors that all four men shared neo-Nazi beliefs pri­or to his con­ver­sion to Islam.

    “Arthurs stat­ed that for some time before the mur­ders, he had been privy to Rus­sell par­tic­i­pat­ing in online neo-Nazi inter­net chat rooms where he threat­ened to kill peo­ple and bomb infra­struc­ture,” accord­ing to the com­plaint.

    Arthurs, who remains jailed with­out bail, is fac­ing two counts of first-degree mur­der, two counts of aggra­vat­ed assault and three counts of armed kid­nap­ping.

    Him­mel­man and Oneschuk had recent­ly moved to Flori­da from Mass­a­chu­setts for a change of pace before being invit­ed to live with Arthurs, Himmelman’s sis­ter said Sun­day.

    Lyssa Him­mel­man told the Tam­pa Bay Times her broth­er and Oneschuk had been friends for about a year, with both men aspir­ing to enlist in the mil­i­tary. She said she didn’t know Arthurs that well, aside from his hav­ing extreme views that caused issues in the apart­ment.

    They knew some­thing was off with Arthurs about a week after mov­ing in with him, Lyssa Him­mel­man told the news­pa­per. Both men were slat­ed to move out Mon­day, just three days after they were found dead.

    Mes­sages seek­ing com­ment by The Post were not imme­di­ate­ly returned Mon­day.

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