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FTR #555 Conversation with Daniel Hopsicker: My Way is the Skyway

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Intro­duc­tion: This pro­gram is very dif­fer­ent from oth­er broad­casts. As will be seen below, the pro­gram devi­at­ed from the orig­i­nal agen­da. The pro­gram was orig­i­nal­ly intend­ed as a sup­ple­ment to FTR#554 in order to flesh out the sto­ry of Sky­way, one of the many cor­po­rate fronts for the own­er­ship of a DC9 aircraft—dubbed “Cocaine One” by Hop­sick­er. The broad­cast drift­ed from the orig­i­nal top­ic into dis­cus­sion of the 9/11 dis­in­for­ma­tion move­ment. Emory and Hop­sick­er touched on a num­ber of oth­er top­ics, includ­ing the bat­tle of Tora Bora in Afghanistan, attempts to pin the respon­si­bil­i­ty for the Pearl Har­bor attack on FDR and the macro­eco­nom­ics of the petro­le­um indus­try. This broad­cast and accom­pa­ny­ing descrip­tion are viewed by Mr. Emory as not of the same sub­stance and mer­it as the oth­er pro­grams. This rant was viewed as amus­ing and infor­ma­tive by trust­ed asso­ciates of Mr. Emory and is includ­ed in the archives for that rea­son.

1. This broad­cast went “off track” so to speak. Orig­i­nal­ly intend­ed as an update to Daniel Hopsicker’s ongo­ing inves­ti­ga­tion into the bust of a CIA-con­nect­ed plane in Mex­i­co, the sub­ject was eclipsed when the dia­logue turned to the sub­ject of Adnan Khashog­gi, a long-time play­er in the intel­li­gence scene, a financier of Al Qae­da, and the busi­ness part­ner of John Gray. Gray is an icon of the so-called “New Age” and is also a financier of the so-called “9/11 Truth Move­ment.” This rais­es the dis­tinct pos­si­bil­i­ty that Adnan Khashog­gi may be the real finan­cial backer of the dis­in­for­ma­tion effort that contends—among oth­er things—that the destruc­tion of the twin tow­ers was a con­trolled demo­li­tion and that the Pen­ta­gon was struck by a cruise mis­sile. At some point, Mr. Emory will address this non­sense in detail. Daniel Hop­sick­er has writ­ten three arti­cles about the 9/11 dis­in­for­ma­tion move­ment, and they can be exam­ined at the listener’s dis­cre­tion.
(“Coin­tel­pro 9/11: Peak Oil and the Lev­el Above Sau­di” By Daniel Hop­sick­er; Mad Cow Morn­ing News; 9/28/2004.);
(“Coin­tel­pro 9/11: John Gray and Sau­di Gen­e­sis” By Daniel Hop­sick­er; Mad Cow Morn­ing News; 10/6/2004);
(“Khashog­gi, Cults, Cov­er-Ups & Mars & Venus Doing Lunch” by Daniel Hop­sick­er; Mad Cow Morn­ing News; 10/13/2004.)

2. Much of the pro­gram, frankly, con­sist­ed of both Mr. Emory and Daniel Hop­sick­er rant­i­ng a bit about the 9/11 dis­in­for­ma­tion move­ment and oth­er things. A num­ber of lis­ten­ers whose crit­i­cal fac­ul­ties Mr. Emory regards with esteem expressed the opin­ion that the pro­gram was worth air­ing and dis­trib­ut­ing, despite the digres­sion from the orig­i­nal sub­ject mate­r­i­al and the inci­den­tal rant­i­ng.

3. Part of the pro­gram was devot­ed to crit­i­cism of Mike Ruppert’s 9/11 book, Cross­ing the Rubi­con. Mr. Emory reviewed his rela­tion­ship with Rup­pert, a for­mer guest on the pro­gram. Rup­pert did some excel­lent work on the rela­tion­ship between the intel­li­gence com­mu­ni­ty and the drug trade. Even­tu­al­ly, he [Rup­pert] devi­at­ed from his forte, and began treat­ing sub­jects (includ­ing 9/11) that he clear­ly didn’t under­stand. Mr. Emory dis­so­ci­at­ed him­self from Rup­pert at that point. Emory stat­ed that Cross­ing the Rubi­con was, arguably, the worst book he had ever read. Specif­i­cal­ly, this 600-plus-page vol­ume doesn’t have a word in it about the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, Bank Al Taqwa, Youssef Nada or Oper­a­tion Green Quest. Mr. Emory also stat­ed that writ­ing a 600 page book about 9/11 with­out men­tion­ing the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood is like writ­ing a 600 page book about the Sec­ond World War and not men­tion­ing the Nazis.

4. Hop­sick­er and Emory debat­ed a num­ber of subjects—including whether or not George Bush delib­er­ate­ly allowed Osama bin Laden to escape from Tora Bora (Hop­sick­er thinks so, Emory doesn’t feel Bush is any­thing more than a fig­ure­head).

5. Mr. Emory tack­led the issue of Pearl Har­bor and the alle­ga­tion that Franklin Delano Roo­sevelt delib­er­ate­ly allowed the attack to take place, in order to maneu­ver the U.S. into World War II. In fact, the entire Pacif­ic mil­i­tary com­mand was on a war foot­ing from late Novem­ber on. Admi­ral Kim­mel (in charge of all U.S. Navy forces in Hawaii) was told that an attack could come at any time and that he should be ready. In fact, Kim­mel failed to act on the mes­sage from the U.S.S. Ward that it had launched an attack on an ene­my sub­ma­rine attempt­ing to infil­trate Pearl Har­bor. Had Kim­mel respond­ed in the man­ner he should have, the Japan­ese attack would not have been as dev­as­tat­ing.

6. Mr. Emory voiced the opin­ion that the very vio­lence, mil­i­tary saber-rat­tling and polit­i­cal insta­bil­i­ty in the Mid­dle East is the main sto­ry, so to speak. Where­as peo­ple see the vio­lence as a prod­uct of “U.S. impe­ri­al­ism”, Iran­ian adven­tur­ism or what­ev­er, Mr. Emory feels that the very vio­lence itself is the story—leading to an enor­mous, glob­al trans­fer of wealth into the cof­fers of the petro­le­um indus­try and relat­ed ele­ments.


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