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FTR #564 Interview with John Loftus

He Who Tells the Truth Gets Chased Out of Nine Vil­lages

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Intro­duc­tion: There is an old Turk­ish proverb that goes: “He who tells the truth gets chased out of nine vil­lages.” In this pro­gram, Mr. Emory and John Lof­tus tack­le the unen­vi­able task of dis­pelling some of the delib­er­ate dis­in­for­ma­tion con­cern­ing the recent Lebanon war, as well as ana­lyz­ing the phe­nom­e­non of Islam­ic fas­cism. In addi­tion to dis­cussing the his­to­ry and eco­nom­ic ide­ol­o­gy of the Islam­o­fas­cist Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, John and Mr. Emory high­light the Nazi char­ac­ter­is­tics of Hezbol­lah, the Lebanese Shi­ite gueril­la orga­ni­za­tion backed by Iran. Hezbol­lah uses the Nazi salute, a ges­ture oth­er­wise unknown in the Islam­ic or Arab world. This descrip­tion also high­lights Iran’s his­to­ry of asso­ci­a­tion with the Third Reich, as well as the rela­tion­ship of the Islam­ic gov­ern­ment of that coun­try with ele­ments of the Under­ground Reich. After review­ing the pro­found rela­tion­ship between multi­na­tion­al cor­po­ra­tions and the devel­op­ment of inter­na­tion­al fas­cism, John and Mr. Emory note that the free-mar­ket, glob­al­ized eco­nom­ic phi­los­o­phy of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood make it a vehi­cle of choice for the multi­na­tion­al cor­po­ra­tions. In this respect, the cur­rent con­flict between West­ern troops and Islam­ic mil­i­tants around the world is strong­ly anal­o­gous to the Sec­ond World War, in which Allied sol­diers were locked in mor­tal com­bat with the troops of the fas­cist pow­ers, while transna­tion­al cor­po­ra­tions (includ­ing Amer­i­can ones) were sup­port­ive of fas­cism. Much of the pro­gram cov­ers the delib­er­ate per­ver­sion of news about the Lebanon war. In addi­tion to the delib­er­ate alter­ation of pho­tographs to max­i­mize the appear­ance of dam­age to Lebanese civil­ian infra­struc­ture, there is evi­dence that some of the alleged Israeli atroc­i­ties were either sig­nif­i­cant­ly exag­ger­at­ed or fab­ri­cat­ed alto­geth­er.

Pro­gram High­lights Include: John’s announce­ment of a fledg­ling pro­gram to pro­vide Amer­i­cans with access to oil that does not come from nations that sup­port ter­ror­ism; John’s announce­ment of an up Intel­li­gence Sum­mit gath­er­ing that will fea­ture the “silent major­i­ty” of peace­ful Mus­lims, opposed to the rav­ages of mil­i­tants like Hezbol­lah.

1. Before delv­ing into the main body of the dis­cus­sion, it may prove use­ful to present these URL’s fea­tur­ing pho­tos of Hezbol­lah ral­lies. The orga­ni­za­tion uses the Nazi salute—this ges­ture has no antecedents in the Arab and Mus­lim worlds. In order to under­stand the view­points of both John Lof­tus and Dave Emory on the Lebanon war, one should under­stand the impli­ca­tions of these pic­tures.






Hezbol­lah is an Islam­ic fas­cist orga­ni­za­tion. In that regard, it is worth not­ing that the Aya­tol­lah Khomeini’s exile in France (before he became the head of the Islam­ic rev­o­lu­tion that replaced the Shah in 1979) was sub­si­dized by Fran­cois Genoud. The gov­ern­ment of Iran is also very close to Achmed Huber of the Bank Al Taqwa. Genoud was the heir to the polit­i­cal last will and tes­ta­ment and col­lect­ed lit­er­ary works of: Adolph Hitler, Mar­tin Bor­mann and Joseph Goebbels.

2. In order to help the lis­ten­er to bet­ter under­stand the his­tor­i­cal rela­tion­ship between Iran and Nazi Ger­many, Mr. Emory presents the text of an arti­cle that he read into the record in FTR#565. “Mah­moud Ahmadine­jad has shot to the fore­front of Holo­caust denial with his rab­ble-rous­ing remarks last month. But it’s more like self-denial. The pres­i­dent of Iran need only look to his coun­try’s Hitler-era past to dis­cov­er that Iran and Ira­ni­ans were strong­ly con­nect­ed to the Holo­caust and the Hitler regime, as was the entire Islam­ic world under the lead­er­ship of the mufti of Jerusalem. Iran’s axis with the Third Reich began dur­ing the pre­war years, when it wel­comed Nazi Gestapo agents and oth­er oper­a­tives to Tehran, allow­ing them to use the city as a base for Mid­dle East agi­ta­tion against the British and the region’s Jews. Key among these Ger­man agents was Fritz Grob­ba, Berlin’s envoy to the Mid­dle East, who was often called ‘the Ger­man Lawrence,’ because he promised a Pan-Islam­ic state stretch­ing from Casablan­ca to Tehran. Rela­tions between Berlin and Tehran were strong from the moment Hitler came to pow­er in 1933. At that time, Reza Shah Pahlav­i’s nation was known as Per­sia. The shah became a stal­wart admir­er of Hitler, Nazism and the con­cept of the Aryan mas­ter race. He also sought the Reich’s help in reduc­ing British petro-polit­i­cal dom­i­na­tion.”
(“Denial of Holo­caust Noth­ing New in Iran Ties to Hitler Led to Plots Against British and Jews” by Edwin Black; San Fran­cis­co Chron­i­cle; 1/8/2006.)

3. “So intense was the shah’s iden­ti­fi­ca­tion with the Third Reich that in 1935 he renamed his ancient coun­try ‘Iran,’ which in Far­si means Aryan and refers to the Pro­to-Indo-Euro­pean lin­eage that Nazi racial the­o­rists and Per­sian eth­nol­o­gists cher­ished. The idea for the name change was sug­gest­ed by the Iran­ian ambas­sador to Ger­many, who came under the influ­ence of Hitler’s trust­ed banker, Hjal­mar Schacht. From that point, all Ira­ni­ans were con­stant­ly remind­ed that their coun­try shared a com­mon bond with the Nazi regime.” (Idem.)

4. Note the pres­ence in this sequence of events of Haj Amin al-Hus­sei­ni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The Grand Mufti was the first leader of the Pales­tin­ian move­ment and an indi­vid­ual whose pres­ence fig­ures promi­nent­ly in the his­to­ry of World War II, the Mid­dle East, inter­na­tion­al fas­cism and the events in and around 9/11. “Short­ly after World War II broke out in 1939, the Mufti of Jerusalem craft­ed a strate­gic alliance with Hitler to exchange Iraqi oil for active Arab and Islam­ic par­tic­i­pa­tion in the mur­der of Jews in the Mideast and East­ern Europe. This was pred­i­cat­ed on sup­port for a pan-Arab state and Arab con­trol over Pales­tine. Dur­ing the war years, Iran became a haven for Gestapo agents. It was from Iran that the seeds of the abortive 1941 pro-Nazi coup in Bagh­dad were plant­ed. After Churchill’s forces boot­ed the Nazis out of Iraq in June 1941, Ger­man air­crews sup­port­ing Nazi bombers escaped across Iraq’s north­ern bor­der back into Iran. Like­wise, the mufti of Jerusalem was spir­it­ed across the bor­der to Tehran, where he con­tin­ued to call for the destruc­tion of the Jews and the defeat of the British.” (Idem.)

5. “His ven­omous rhetoric filled the news­pa­pers and radio broad­casts in Tehran. The mufti was a vocal oppo­nent of allow­ing Jew­ish refugees to be trans­port­ed or ran­somed into Jew­ish Pales­tine. Instead, he want­ed them shipped to the gas cham­bers of Poland. In the sum­mer of 1941, the mufti, with the sup­port of key Iran­ian mil­i­tary and gov­ern­ment lead­ers, advo­cat­ed imple­ment­ing in Iran what had failed months ear­li­er in Iraq. The plan once again was for a total diver­sion of oil from the Allies to the Nazis, in exchange for the accel­er­at­ed destruc­tion of the Jews in East­ern Europe and the Nazis’ sup­port for an Arab state. Through the Anglo-Iran­ian Oil Co., Iran had already been sup­ply­ing Hitler’s forces in occu­pied Czecho­slo­va­kia and Aus­tria. Now, the mufti agi­tat­ed to cut off the British and the Allies com­plete­ly and sup­ply Ger­many in its push against Rus­sia.” (Idem.)

6. “In Octo­ber 1941, British, USSR oth­er allied forces invad­ed Iran to break up the Iran-Nazi alliance. Pro-Nazi gen­er­als and min­is­ters were arrest­ed, and the shah’s son was installed in pow­er. The mufti scam­pered into the Ital­ian embassy, where he shaved his beard and dyed his hair. In this dis­guise, he was allowed to leave the coun­try along with the rest of the Ital­ian del­e­ga­tion. Once the mufti relo­cat­ed per­ma­nent­ly to Berlin, where he estab­lished his own Reich-sup­port­ed ‘bureau,’ he was giv­en air­time on Radio Berlin. From Berlin and oth­er fas­cist cap­i­tals in Europe, the mufti con­tin­ued to agi­tate for inter­na­tion­al Jew­ish destruc­tion, as well as a pan-Islam­ic alliance with the Nazi regime.” (Idem.)

7. “He called upon all Mus­lims to ‘kill the Jews wher­ev­er you see them.’ In Tehran’s mar­ket­place, it was com­mon to see plac­ards that declared, ‘In heav­en, Allah is your mas­ter. On Earth, it is Adolf Hitler.’ When the mufti raised three divi­sions of Islam­ic Waf­fen SS to under­take cru­el oper­a­tions in Bosnia, among the 30,000 killers were some vol­un­teer con­tin­gents from Iran. Iran­ian Nazis, along with the oth­er Mus­lim Waf­fen SS, oper­at­ed under the direct super­vi­sion of Hein­rich Himm­ler and were respon­si­ble for bar­barous actions against Jews and oth­ers in Bosnia. Recruit­ment for the mur­der­ous ‘Hand­schar Divi­sions’ was done open­ly in Iran. Iran and its lead­ers were not only aware of the Holo­caust, they played both sides. The coun­try offered over­land escape routes for refugee Jews flee­ing Nazi per­se­cu­tion to Israel — and lat­er flee­ing post­war Iraqi fas­cist per­se­cu­tion — but only in exchange for extor­tion­ate pas­sage fees.” (Idem.)

8. Since the rise of the Islamist gov­ern­ment in Iran, that coun­try has become an epi­cen­ter of the Holo­caust denial move­ment. “Thou­sands of Jews jour­neyed to Israel via Iran both dur­ing the Holo­caust and dur­ing the years after the fall of Hitler, when Arab lead­ers, espe­cial­ly in Iraq, tried to con­tin­ue Ger­many’s anti-Jew­ish pro­gram. Iran prof­it­ed hand­some­ly. Since the shah’s down­fall, Iran has become a cen­ter for orga­nized inter­na­tion­al Holo­caust denial and has helped ele­vate the endeav­or from fringe hate speech to a state-approved pseu­do-intel­lec­tu­al debate. In inter­na­tion­al forums and on state-con­trolled radio, Iran­ian uni­ver­si­ty experts and jour­nal­ists help val­i­date the revi­sion­ist views that Jews were nev­er gassed or mur­dered in great num­bers dur­ing the Holo­caust. Indeed, Iran has become a refuge for the biggest names in Euro­pean Holo­caust denial. When in 2000, revi­sion­ist author Jür­gen Graf was sen­tenced in Switzer­land to 15 months in prison for Holo­caust fal­si­fi­ca­tion, Graf fled to Tehran ‘at the invi­ta­tion of a group of Iran­ian schol­ars and uni­ver­si­ty pro­fes­sors who are sym­pa­thet­ic to Holo­caust revi­sion­ism,’ accord­ing to the Insti­tute for His­tor­i­cal Review, a denial clear­ing­house.” (Idem.)

9. “What’s more, in May 2000, Iran’s embassy in Vien­na grant­ed asy­lum to Aus­tri­an Holo­caust denier Wolf­gang Fröh­lich, who tes­ti­fied as a so-called expert wit­ness dur­ing Graf’s 1998 tri­al. This saved Fröh­lich from Aus­tri­a’s severe anti-Holo­caust denial statutes. Fröh­lich argued that evi­dence proved no Jews were killed by Zyk­lon B gassing. Ear­li­er, about 600 jour­nal­ists and 160 mem­bers of the Iran­ian par­lia­ment signed peti­tions sup­port­ing French revi­sion­ist Roger Garaudy, who was fined $40,000 by French author­i­ties for his book claim­ing the Holo­caust was a myth. When Garaudy land­ed in Iran, the coun­try’s supreme spir­i­tu­al leader, Aya­tol­lah Sayyad Khamenei, grant­ed him an audi­ence and laud­ed his work. Iran has played a lead­ing role in the Holo­caust dra­ma and now tries to deny it. That should be very hard in a nation that was named for Hitler’s mas­ter race.” (Idem.)

10. In the main body of the broad­cast, John began by high­light­ing an upcom­ing Intel­li­gence Sum­mit in St. Peters­burg, Flori­da, at which the “silent major­i­ty” of peace­ful, tol­er­ant, non-vio­lent Mus­lims will be the pri­ma­ry focus of the event.

11. A fas­ci­nat­ing top­ic of dis­cus­sion was intro­duced in pub­lic for the first time—“Terror-Free Oil.” The oper­ant con­cept is the mar­ket­ing of gaso­line to the Amer­i­can pub­lic that is NOT pro­duced by coun­tries that spon­sor ter­ror­ism. Some com­pa­nies, such as Sin­clair, do not buy oil from coun­tries that sup­port ter­ror­ism.

12. Next, the dis­cus­sion turned to the sub­ject of the Hid­den or Twelfth Imam. This is a mys­ti­cal belief held by some Shi­ite Mus­lims that main­tains that a child who died a long time ago will come to life after cer­tain signs man­i­fest them­selves, includ­ing apoc­a­lyp­tic and cat­a­stroph­ic events. The com­ing of the Hid­den Imam will her­ald judg­ment day in the Mus­lim faith. Mr. Emory not­ed Iran­ian pres­i­dent Amadine­jad is a sub­scriber to this belief. That mys­ti­cal, apoc­a­lyp­tic belief sys­tem along with his denial of the Holo­caust and vow to destroy Israel should prove very fright­en­ing to peo­ple, in light of the fact that he is seek­ing nuclear weapons. With many fun­da­men­tal­ist Chris­tians see­ing the events in the Mid­dle East as the ful­fill­ment of prophe­cy, Mr. Emory expressed great anx­i­ety for the future of the world. John Lof­tus added that the Chris­tians were not active­ly seek­ing the anni­hi­la­tion of the Jews, unlike the Mus­lims.

13. Next, John revealed that some of the major oil com­pa­nies, espe­cial­ly Exxon/Mobil—were sup­port­ive of the insur­gency in Iraq, because the tur­moil min­i­mizes the amount of Iraqi oil enter­ing the world mar­kets, keep­ing the price high. John notes that the multi­na­tion­al cor­po­ra­tions are not sup­port­ive of the Unit­ed States!

14. Next, John reviews the Webb-Pomerene Act, the onset and growth of fas­cism and glob­al­iza­tion.

15. John reviews the gen­e­sis of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, the pro­to­type of Islam­o­fas­cist groups such as Hezbol­lah.

16. Mr. Emory then reviews an arti­cle about the lais­sez-faire com­mer­cial phi­los­o­phy of the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood. The broad­cast notes that that organization’s eco­nom­ic ide­ol­o­gy is alto­geth­er con­sis­tent with the fun­da­men­tal goals of multi­na­tion­al cor­po­ra­tions and the prac­tice of glob­al­iza­tion. It is said that a pic­ture is worth a thou­sand words. This pic­ture of an Islam­ic Jihad cam­paign ral­ly from April of 2005 speaks vol­umes about the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood. (Pales­tin­ian Islam­ic Jihad is a sub­group of the Broth­er­hood.) The Brotherhood’s pop­ulist pre­ten­sions and actu­al char­i­ta­ble accom­plish­ments should not blind one to the true nature of the orga­ni­za­tion. As dis­cussed else­where, the head of the Egypt­ian branch of the Broth­er­hood has denied the Holo­caust. Keep this in mind when read­ing dis­cus­sion of the Egypt­ian Broth­er­hood in the arti­cle below. “Judeo-Chris­t­ian scrip­ture offers lit­tle eco­nom­ic instruc­tion. The Book of Deuteron­o­my, for exam­ple, is loaded with edicts on how the faith­ful should pray, eat, bequeath, keep the holy fes­ti­vals and treat slaves and spous­es, but it is silent on trade and com­merce. In Matthew, when Christ admon­ish­es his fol­low­ers to ‘give to the emper­or the things that are the emper­or’s,’ he is effec­tive­ly con­ced­ing fis­cal and mon­e­tary author­i­ty to pagan Rome. Islam is dif­fer­ent. The prophet Muhammad—himself a trader—preached mer­chant hon­or, the only reg­u­la­tion that the bor­der­less Lev­an­tine mar­ket knew. In Mus­lim litur­gy, the deals cut in the souk become a metaphor for the con­tract between God and the faith­ful. And the busi­ness mod­el Muham­mad pre­scribed, accord­ing to Mus­lim schol­ars and econ­o­mists, is very much in the lais­sez-faire tra­di­tion lat­er embraced by the West. Prices were to be set by God alone—anticipating by more than a mil­len­ni­um Adam Smith’s ref­er­ence to the ‘invis­i­ble hand’ of mar­ket-based pric­ing. Mer­chants were not to cut deals out­side the souk, an ear­ly attempt to thwart insid­er trad­ing.”
(“Islam in Office” by Stephen Glain; Newsweek; 7/3–10/2006.)

17. Note that the Islamist gov­ern­ment of Iraq has pre­served the free-mar­ket, lais­sez-faire eco­nom­ic mod­el craft­ed by Grover Norquist. “Today, with a spir­i­tu­al revival sweep­ing much of the Mus­lim world and with the Bush admin­is­tra­tion still keen on democ­ra­tiz­ing the region, it is worth ask­ing how an Islamist move­ment would man­age the econ­o­my. Since 2001, Islamist par­ties have made strong show­ings or won elec­tions in 10 Arab coun­tries (Moroc­co, Jor­dan, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait and Pak­istan) and the Pales­tin­ian Author­i­ty. And none are clash­ing with the West on free-mar­ket eco­nom­ics. In Iraq, the sup­ply-side eco­nom­ic-reform plan sub­mit­ted in 2003 by for­mer U.S. admin­is­tra­tor Paul Bre­mer has sur­vived with only minor revi­sions under Bagh­dad’s new Shia-dom­i­nat­ed gov­ern­ment. [Empha­sis added.] An inter­est­ing test came in the Jan­u­ary elec­tion in Egypt, when the Mus­lim Brotherhood—the foun­tain­head of mod­ern Islamism—took a fifth of the seats in Par­lia­ment. Now the largest oppo­si­tion par­ty, much of the broth­er­hood’s appeal rests on its net­work of hos­pi­tals, schools and char­i­ties, which are often supe­ri­or to state ser­vices (and help explain why the sec­u­lar regime cracks down hard­er on the sec­u­lar oppo­si­tion than on the reli­gious one). For­tu­nate­ly for the reform-mind­ed prime min­is­ter, Ahmed Nazif, the broth­er­hood’s eco­nom­ic agen­da is large­ly con­sis­tent with his own, albeit with a more pop­ulist twist.” (Idem.)

18. “The broth­er­hood embraces free-trade deals in gen­er­al, but crit­i­cizes the gov­ern­ment for fail­ing to nego­ti­ate bet­ter terms for Egyp­tians. Though Islam tends to frown on tax col­lec­tion, the broth­er­hood sup­ports tax reform (not abo­li­tion) and oppos­es a pro­posed flat tax as regres­sive. It even endorsed the recent deci­sion to lift bud­get-bust­ing food and fuel sub­si­dies, but wants to use Egyp­t’s ample nat­ur­al-gas reserves to finance a less painful tran­si­tion to mar­ket prices. ‘It must be done gen­tly,’ says Moham­mad Habib, the broth­er­hood’s first deputy chair­man, ‘with the objec­tive of reduc­ing the gap between rich and poor.’ In the 1950s, as the broth­er­hood gained polit­i­cal momen­tum, it opposed Pres­i­dent Gamal Abdel Nass­er as much for his deci­sion to nation­al­ize the Egypt­ian econ­o­my as for his fierce sec­u­lar­ism. Muham­mad, says Yass­er Abdo, a Mus­lim Broth­er­hood mem­ber and a for­mer econ­o­mist at the Inter­na­tion­al Islam­ic Bank for Invest­ment and Devel­op­ment in Cairo, ‘believed in the pri­vate sec­tor as the basis of pro­duc­tive activ­i­ty,’ with a ‘lim­it­ed’ state role.” (Idem.)

19. Note that although the Broth­er­hood offi­cial­ly dis­claims monop­o­list eco­nom­ics, it does not ques­tion the OPEC car­tel. “Today, broth­er­hood par­lia­men­tar­i­ans remain anti-sta­tist and staunch­ly antitrust, cit­ing a verse in the Qur’an: ‘He who brings com­modi­ties to the mar­ket is good, but he who prac­tices monop­o­lies is evil.’ Not that any mem­ber goes as far as ques­tion­ing the OPEC car­tel. As Cairo Uni­ver­si­ty econ­o­mist Abdel Hamid Abuzaid puts it, Islam pro­motes ‘com­pe­ti­tion of a coop­er­a­tive’ nature, not the ‘cut­throat’ West­ern kind. Polit­i­cal­ly, at least, the objec­tive of fun­da­men­tal­ist Islam is to restore the Islam­ic caliphate, the uni­fied Mus­lim king­dom of the 7th to the ear­ly 20th cen­turies that stretched from the Hin­du Kush to the Strait of Gibral­tar. This rhetoric turns more prac­ti­cal on the sub­ject of trade. ‘If the ancient caliphate can revive itself,’ says Habib, who has a U.S. doc­tor­ate in geol­o­gy, ‘it will hap­pen through region­al com­merce.’ A broth­er­hood in pow­er, says Habib, would respect Cairo’s free-trade agreements—though the group appears to be divid­ed over whether it would hon­or one with Israel.” (Idem.)

20. Note that no less an author­i­ty than the World Bank views Ibn Khaldun—revered by the Brotherhood—as “the first advo­cate of pri­va­ti­za­tion”! “In the days of the caliphate, Islam devel­oped the most sophis­ti­cat­ed mon­e­tary sys­tem the world had yet known. Today, some econ­o­mists cite Islam­ic bank­ing as fur­ther evi­dence of an intrin­sic Islam­ic prag­ma­tism. Though still guid­ed by a Qur’an­ic ban on riba, or inter­est, Islam­ic bank­ing has adapt­ed to the needs of a boom­ing oil region for liq­uid­i­ty. In recent years, some 500 Islam­ic banks and invest­ment firms hold­ing $2 tril­lion in assets have emerged in the Gulf States, with more in Islam­ic com­mu­ni­ties of the West. British Chan­cel­lor of the Exche­quer Gor­don Brown wants to make Lon­don a glob­al cen­ter for Islam­ic finance—and elic­its no howl of protest from fun­da­men­tal­ists. How Islamists might run a cen­tral bank is more prob­lem­at­ic: schol­ars say they would manip­u­late cur­ren­cy reserves, not inter­est rates. The Mus­lim Broth­er­hood hails 14th cen­tu­ry philoso­pher Ibn Khal­dun as its eco­nom­ic guide. Antic­i­pat­ing sup­ply-side eco­nom­ics, Khal­dun argued that cut­ting tax­es rais­es pro­duc­tion and tax rev­enues, and that state con­trol should be lim­it­ed to pro­vid­ing water, fire and free graz­ing land, the util­i­ties of the ancient world. The World Bank has called Ibn Khal­dun the first advo­cate of pri­va­ti­za­tion. [Empha­sis added.] His found­ing influ­ence is a sign of mod­er­a­tion. If Islamists in pow­er ever do clash with the West, it won’t be over com­merce.” (Idem.)

21. Not­ing that the trans-nation­al cor­po­ra­tions favored fas­cism (or “cor­po­ratism” as they pre­ferred to call it), Mr. Emory and Lof­tus con­curred that, in many ways, the multi­na­tion­al cor­po­rate community’s sup­port for the Islam­o­fas­cist Mus­lim Broth­er­hood is anal­o­gous to their sup­port for the fas­cism of the World War II era. While U.S. and oth­er West­ern nations’ troops are indeed fight­ing a real war against Islamists, at the same time, the oil com­pa­nies and oth­er transna­tion­als are sup­port­ing Islamism as a vehi­cle for pri­va­ti­za­tion and glob­al­iza­tion. Both John and Mr. Emory agreed that this was not unlike the sit­u­a­tion in the Sec­ond World War, in which Allied troops were fight­ing against the fas­cists, while many cor­po­ra­tions and their most impor­tant per­son­nel were col­lab­o­rat­ing with them.

22. Next, the dis­cus­sion turned to the war in Lebanon, in par­tic­u­lar some of the fal­si­fi­ca­tion and exag­ger­a­tion of civil­ian casu­al­ties. Among the inci­dents out­lined are the alleged Israeli attacks on ambu­lances, a read­i­ly ver­i­fi­able fab­ri­ca­tion. The ambu­lances that were sup­pos­ed­ly attacked by the Israelis clear­ly were NOT struck by air­borne muni­tions, nei­ther mis­siles nor can­non fire. This should have been evi­dent to even the most casu­al and unso­phis­ti­cat­ed observ­er. A con­ser­v­a­tive web­site pre­sent­ed a detailed, thought­ful analy­sis of the ambu­lance fraud: http://www.zombietime.com/ambulance. Note in par­tic­u­lar the ambu­lance that sup­pos­ed­ly was hit by a mis­sile in the roof. First, no aer­i­al mis­sile could have entered at this angle. Beyond that, a round big enough to have caused such a hole would have dis­in­te­grat­ed the ambu­lance and left a sig­nif­i­cant crater in the ground. This isn’t just dis­in­for­ma­tion, it isn’t even very well done. Take a care­ful look at the ambu­lances in this footage. http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=6377. Once again, they clear­ly have not been struck by mis­siles or can­non fire. It is worth not­ing that the Aus­tralian For­eign Min­is­ter has echoed the fraud charges con­cern­ing the ambu­lances.

23. What John Lof­tus referred to as the “Non-mas­sacre at Qana” also was great­ly exag­ger­at­ed, per­haps even fab­ri­cat­ed. There was a peri­od of sev­er­al hours between the time Israeli muni­tions struck a build­ing in that city and the time it col­lapsed. The corpses of chil­dren alleged­ly killed in that build­ing exhib­it­ed advanced rig­or mor­tis and were remark­ably free of the blood, feces and urine that might be expect­ed on the corpses of chil­dren who had been killed in an air raid. Check out this web­site and the analy­sis on it. Again, it should be not­ed that vir­tu­al­ly all of the cov­er­age of this impor­tant phe­nom­e­non comes from the con­ser­v­a­tive sec­tor. The so-called alter­na­tive media haven’t touched the issue of the fraud­u­lent “atroc­i­ties.”

24. It is worth not­ing that these obvi­ous frauds had an enor­mous effect on world opin­ion. Indeed, the Qana non-mas­sacre appears to have been a major fac­tor in blunt­ing the Bush administration’s sup­port for Israel. Mr. Emory con­sid­ers Hezbollah’s manip­u­la­tion of events to be one of the most skilled and deci­sive uses of psy­cho­log­i­cal war­fare and pro­pa­gan­da in the his­to­ry of war­fare. The sub­ject of media manip­u­la­tion and the mas­sive dis­in­for­ma­tion in the Lebanon war will be the focal point of future broad­casts. After the pro­gram had been record­ed, anoth­er bogus inci­dent sur­faced, the sup­posed Israeli attack on a Reuters vehi­cle. View this web­site. Once again, this is NOT a vehi­cle that has been hit by an aer­i­al mis­sile. Once again, this isn’t even a good fake. In the pro­gram, John allud­ed to a Reuters pho­tog­ra­ph­er who delib­er­ate­ly faked pho­tographs of Israeli air raid dam­age to Beirut.

25. The dis­cus­sion con­clud­ed with John’s over­ly opti­mistic view that the Arab coun­tries had giv­en their tac­it bless­ing to the Israelis to destroy Hezbol­lah. This does not appear to have been borne out by cir­cum­stances. On the con­trary, the avail­able evi­dence sug­gests that the U.N., the Lebanese gov­ern­ment (of which Hezbol­lah is part), and the Euro­pean coun­tries that are con­tribut­ing to the peace-keep­ing force are qui­et­ly col­lud­ing with Hezbol­lah. Hezbol­lah has already said it won’t dis­arm and the Lebanese army has said they will not attempt to force them to do so. The Euro­peans appear to be qui­et­ly acqui­esc­ing, as well.


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