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FTR #644 Interview with Ed Haslam About “Dr. Mary’s Monkey”

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Intro­duc­tion: Con­tin­u­ing our explo­ration of the ground­break­ing research of Ed Haslam, the pro­gram sets forth some of the major points of inves­ti­ga­tion from Ed’s lat­est book, Dr. Mary’s Mon­key. A New Orleans Native, Ed Haslam’s life­long inves­tiga­tive path­way into events over­lap­ping the milieu of the assas­si­na­tion of Pres­i­dent Kennedy and appar­ent­ly iatro­genic (man-made) epi­demics con­sti­tutes a nar­ra­tive that is both thrilling and ter­ri­fy­ing. Sup­ple­ment­ing and expand­ing an inves­ti­ga­tion first pub­lished in Ed’s 1996 title Mary, Fer­rie and the Mon­key Virus, this vol­ume intro­duces the remark­able sto­ry of Judyth Vary Bak­er, a bril­liant can­cer researcher recruit­ed to work on a clan­des­tine project in which virus­es were irra­di­at­ed. Appar­ent­ly inau­gu­rat­ed in order to cre­ate an anti-can­cer vac­cine, the project mor­phed into an effort to cre­ate bio­log­i­cal weapon­ry, ini­tial­ly to assas­si­nate Fidel Cas­tro and, per­haps, to cre­ate geno­ci­dal weapons. Among Ms. Bak­er’s co-work­ers in the project were (alleged­ly) Lee Har­vey Oswald. After a rup­ture with Dr. Arnold Ochsner, the med­ical lumi­nary who presided over the project, Lee alleged­ly trav­eled to Dal­las to attempt to pre­vent the assas­si­na­tion of Pres­i­dent Kennedy by ele­ments of U.S. intel­li­gence. Unsuc­cess­ful, he was framed for the crime and mur­dered before he had a chance to defend him­self. After the 1964 mur­der of Dr. Mary Sher­man, the Ochsner asso­ciate who was a piv­otal mem­ber of the pro­jec­t’s staff, the dead­ly mutat­ed virus­es appear to have fall­en into the hands of mur­der­ous right-wing extrem­ists con­nect­ed to the intel­li­gence com­mu­ni­ty.

Pro­gram High­lights Include: Syn­op­sis of the impor­tance of the city of New Orleans to Amer­i­can polit­i­cal and eco­nom­ic infra­struc­ture; dis­cus­sion of the sig­nif­i­cance of New Orleans as a cen­ter for research into trop­i­cal dis­eases; overview of the impor­tance of Tulane Uni­ver­si­ty for research into trop­i­cal dis­eases; the med­ical and polit­i­cal career of Dr. Alton Ochsner; dis­cus­sion of the careers of three remark­able female med­ical researchers (Mary Sher­man, Sarah Stew­art, Ber­nice Eddy); review of the fun­da­men­tals of the New Orleans com­po­nent of the assas­si­na­tion of JFK; dis­cus­sion of a soft-tis­sue can­cer epi­dem­ic cur­rent­ly man­i­fest­ing itself in the Unit­ed States as a result of the con­t­a­m­i­na­tion of the polio vac­cine with a can­cer caus­ing mon­key virus–SV-40; dis­cus­sion of the pos­si­bil­i­ty that the AIDS epi­dem­ic may be man made (FTR#16 may prove par­tic­u­lar­ly use­ful in research­ing this sub­ject.) The Virus and the Vac­cine by Deb­bie Bookchin and Jim Schu­mach­er flesh­es out the sto­ry of the SV-40 con­t­a­m­i­na­tion of the polio vac­cine.

1. The pro­gram begins with analy­sis of the Cres­cent City as a vital eco­nom­ic and polit­i­cal engine. The North­ern­most port of the Caribbean and the gate­way to the Mis­sis­sip­pi River–the largest com­mer­cial water­way in the Unit­ed States–New Orleans has long occu­pied a piv­otal­ly impor­tant posi­tion in Amer­i­can eco­nom­ic infra­struc­ture. With agri­cul­tur­al prod­ucts such as cof­fee, sug­ar and bananas com­ing up from Latin Amer­i­ca and U.S. farm prod­ucts such as corn and wheat, as well as fin­ished indus­tri­al tools and goods going down to Latin Amer­i­ca, New Orleans has been a com­mer­cial epi­cen­ter.

The eco­nom­ic pow­er cen­tered in the Cres­cent City pro­duced deriv­a­tive polit­i­cal and nation­al secu­ri­ty influ­ence. The pro­found strate­gic sig­nif­i­cance of the port of New Orleans ele­vat­ed that city and–to an extent, the state of Louisiana–to dis­pro­por­tion­ate influ­ence in both Con­gress and the nation­al secu­ri­ty estab­lish­ment. Among the leg­isla­tive lumi­nar­ies from Louisiana:

” . . . F. Edward Hebert, Chair­man of Armed Ser­vices Com­mit­tee of the U.S. House of Rep­re­sen­ta­tives. Tax­es start in the House, and bud­gets start in Com­mit­tee. As Chair­man of the House Armed Ser­vices Com­mit­tee, the entire U.S. mil­i­tary bud­get and the vast major­i­ty of the CIA bud­get start­ed on Hebert’s desk. One of his jobs was to hide most of the CIA bud­get in the U.S. mil­i­tary bud­get. He was known as ‘the mil­i­tary’s best friend.’

Allen Elen­der, had been in the U.S. Sen­ate for over 40 years. He was the senior sen­a­tor when [for­mer Louisiana Gov­er­nor] Huey Long was the junior sen­a­tor in the 1930’s. Ellen­der sat on the Armed Ser­vices Com­mit­tee of the U.S. Sen­ate and got Hebert’s bud­get through the Sen­ate. Between the two, they made sure that Louisiana received its fair share of mil­i­tary and space con­tracts.

Rus­sell Long, the son of Huey Long, was Major­i­ty Whip of the U.S. Sen­ate, Chair­man of the Sen­ate’s pow­er­ful Ways and Means Com­mit­tee, and mem­ber of the Sen­ate Bank­ing Com­mit­tee.

Hale Bog­gs, Major­i­ty Whip of the U.S. House of Rep­re­sen­ta­tives, was the 3rd most pow­er­ful man in that body, and was con­sid­ered by many to be LBJ’s ‘man-in-the house.’ . . .”

Dr. Mary’s Mon­key by Ed Haslam; Trine Day [SC]; Copy­right 2007 by Ed Haslam; ISBN 978–0‑9777953–0‑6; p. 30.

2. The loca­tion of New Orleans and the resul­tant trop­i­cal dis­ease prob­lem it has encoun­tered has made the city a focal point of med­ical research into afflic­tions such as malar­ia and yel­low fever. Although not as well known as some US insti­tu­tions of high­er learn­ing, Tulane Uni­ver­si­ty has assumed great sig­nif­i­cance in trop­i­cal dis­ease research. Much of that research has involved using pri­mates as exper­i­men­tal sub­jects.

“ . . . In Louisiana, the Delta Region­al Pri­mate Cen­ter opened its doors in Novem­ber 1964 with Tulane Uni­ver­si­ty serv­ing as the host insti­tu­tion. This took the mon­key virus research out of down­town New Orleans and put it in 500 wood­ed acres near Cov­ing­ton, Louisiana across Lake Pontchar­train. Today, that lab­o­ra­to­ry has over 4,000 pri­mates, thir­ty sci­en­tists, and 130 sup­port work­ers, plus a pub­lic rela­tions direc­tor whose job it is to boast of the center’s virus research espe­cial­ly on AIDS, and to point to the improve­ments in lab secu­ri­ty, such as the high-secu­ri­ty zone, where researchers and staff show­er and change clothes before approach­ing or leav­ing the 500 mon­keys infect­ed with simi­an AIDS. . . .”

Ibid.; p. 23.

3. Next, Ed syn­op­sizes the career and activ­i­ties of Dr. Alton Ochsner and his lofty stand­ing in the med­ical com­mu­ni­ty. A famous sur­geon who helped to pio­neer blood trans­fu­sion pro­ce­dures, Ochsner became a dom­i­nant influ­ence at Tulane Uni­ver­si­ty and in New Orleans. Of par­tic­u­lar note was his rela­tion­ship with Latin Amer­i­can elite infra­struc­ture.

“ . . . The Latin Amer­i­can angle was a nat­ur­al for a med­ical clin­ic in New Orleans. And as we not­ed ear­li­er, New Orleans was America’s com­mer­cial pipeline to Latin Amer­i­ca, and Tulane’s rep­u­ta­tion was gold­en in the region. For a group of Tulane doc­tors to form a med­ical clin­ic to serve the needs of the Latin elite was great news for those who could step on a plane in their cap­i­tal city and be in New Orleans quick­er than most Amer­i­cans. To pro­mote his clin­ic, Ochsner made over a hun­dred trips to Latin Amer­i­ca dur­ing his career, and became friends with its rulers. . . . Among his friends, Ochsner count­ed Anas­ta­sio Somoza, Nicaragua’s for­mer Pres­i­dent (and dic­ta­tor), who was run out his coun­try by rev­o­lu­tion­ar­ies in 1979. Thos rela­tion­ship is what one might call a per­son­al one, based on the let­ters in Ochsner’s per­son­al papers. . . Ochsner and Somoza shared mutu­al anti-Com­mu­nist objec­tives. Somoza’s per­son­al physi­cian, Dr. Hen­ri DeBayle, sat on the Board of Direc­tors of Guy Banister’s infa­mous Anti-Com­mu­nist League of the Caribbean. Anoth­er patient was Juan Per­on the pres­i­dent (and dic­ta­tor) of Argenti­na. Fol­low­ing the lead of these dic­ta­tors came the oli­garchies of Latin Amer­i­can coun­tries, which had not devel­oped their own health care sys­tems. . . .”

Ibid.; pp. 178–179.

4. Ed out­lined Ochsner’s reac­tionary polit­i­cal ori­en­ta­tion, includ­ing his oppo­si­tion to the civ­il rights move­ment and, above all, his mil­i­tant anti-Com­mu­nism, which led him to found INCA—the Infor­ma­tion Coun­cil of the Amer­i­c­as. An appar­ent intel­li­gence front, INCA record­ed an inter­view on New Orleans radio sta­tion WDSU fea­tur­ing Lee Har­vey Oswald pro­claim­ing his sup­posed Marx­ist sym­pa­thies. (To hear this inter­view and back­ground infor­ma­tion about INCA, see FTR#621.) Ochsner devel­oped numer­ous links to the intel­li­gence com­mu­ni­ty as the Cold War pro­gressed.

“ . . . In Octo­ber 1959, after two years of work­ing in a ‘Sen­si­tive Posi­tion,’ pre­sum­ably with the FBI, the FBI con­duct­ed yet anoth­er ‘Sen­si­tive Posi­tion’ inves­ti­ga­tion on Ochsner and for­ward­ed their find­ings to an unnamed U.S. gov­ern­ment agency. Sev­er­al days lat­er, on Octo­ber 21, 1959, the FBI, free­ing him up to accept an assign­ment from the oth­er undis­closed agency. So what was hap­pen­ing in 1957 and 1959? Why would they have need­ed the ser­vices of a doc­tor? And what did they need from this doc­tor that they could not get from the legions of oth­er doc­tors already work­ing for the U.S. gov­ern­ment in one capac­i­ty or anoth­er? These are impor­tant ques­tions. . . .”

Ibid.; p. 182.

5. The “impor­tant ques­tions” not­ed above receive a two-track answer in Ed’s book. In New Orleans, we view the con­flu­ence of the covert oper­a­tions being con­duct­ed against the regime of Fidel Cas­tro in Cuba with attempts at deriv­ing a vac­cine to neu­tral­ize a dead­ly, can­cer-caus­ing viral con­t­a­m­i­nant in the polio vac­cine admin­is­tered to mil­lions of Amer­i­cans. One of the major focal points of Dr. Mary’s Mon­key con­cerns the SV-40, a simi­an ver­sion of the dead­ly poly­oma virus which caus­es mul­ti­ple can­cers in mul­ti­ple species. Because the polio vaccine’s virus was grown on mon­key kid­neys, SV-40 found its way into the vac­cine when the polio virus­es were har­vest­ed for vac­cine pro­duc­tion. Out­lin­ing the sto­ry of the con­t­a­m­i­na­tion of the polio vac­cine with SV-40, Ed presents that account in con­junc­tion with the sto­ry of three remark­able female physicians–Dr.‘s Sarah Stew­art, Ber­nice Eddy and Mary Sher­man. After dis­cussing the fail­ure of the ini­tial polio vac­cine, Ed writes:

. . . In the after­math of the deba­cle, Ber­nice Eddy was tak­en off polio research and trans­ferred to the influen­za sec­tion by the thank­less NIH man­age­ment. She shared her frus­tra­tions with a small group of women sci­en­tists who ate brown-bag lunch­es on the steps of one of the lab­o­ra­to­ries. There Eddy met a tena­cious sci­en­tist named Stew­art, M.D., PhD., who was wag­ing her own bat­tle against the offi­cial par­a­digms of bureau­crat­ic med­i­cine. Ber­nice Eddy and Sarah Stew­art became close friends.

Sarah Stew­art’s name remains vir­tu­al­ly unknown today, despite her huge con­tri­bu­tion to mod­ern med­i­cine. Not only did she prove that some can­cers were caused by virus­es, but sub­se­quent research on the virus she dis­cov­ered led to the dis­cov­ery of DNA recom­bi­na­tion, which is one of the most pow­er­ful tools in med­ical research today. . . .”

Ibid.; p. 204.

6. More about Dr.‘s Eddy, Stew­art and their dis­cov­ery of Poly­oma and the SV-40 con­t­a­m­i­na­tion of the polio vac­cine:

” . . . In 1957, Stew­art and Eddy dis­cov­ered the poly­oma virus, which pro­duced sev­er­al types of can­cer in a vari­ety of small mam­mals. Poly­oma proved that some can­cers were indeed caused by virus­es. Her dis­cov­ery offi­cial­ly threw open the doors of can­cer virol­o­gy. . . . But it raised some dark ques­tions about ear­li­er deeds. Before long, Yale’s lab­o­ra­to­ry dis­cov­ered that the poly­oma virus that had pro­duced the can­cer in Stew­art’s mice and ham­sters turned out to act like Simi­an Virus #40 (SV-40), a mon­key virus that caused can­cer.

In June 1959, Ber­nice Eddy, who was still offi­cial­ly to the flu vac­cine project, began think­ing about the polio vac­cine again. This time she was wor­ried about some­thing much deep­er than polio. The vac­cine’s man­u­fac­tur­ers had grown their polio virus­es on the kid­neys of mon­keys. And when they removed the polio virus from the mon­keys’ kid­neys, they also removed an unknown num­ber of oth­er mon­key virus­es. . . . Eddy grew sus­pi­cious of the polio vac­cine and asked an excru­ci­at­ing ques­tion: Had they inoc­u­lat­ed an entire gen­er­a­tion of Amer­i­cans with can­cer-caus­ing mon­key virus­es? She con­duct­ed her research qui­et­ly, with­out alert­ing her NIH super­vi­sors. . . .Her impli­ca­tion was clear: There were can­cer-caus­ing mon­key virus­es in the polio vac­cine! . . .”

Ibid.; pp. 206–7.

7. Like Dr.‘s Eddy and Stew­art, Dr. Mary Sher­man should be a focal point of seri­ous fem­i­nist research. These women achieved pro­found­ly sig­nif­i­cant gains in the field of med­ical research at a time when pro­fes­sion­al advance­ment for women was dif­fi­cult. Dr. Sher­man even­tu­al­ly land­ed in New Orleans as a pro­tege of Dr. Alton Ochsner. Ed the­o­rizes that her net­work­ing with NIH mem­bers, includ­ing Sarah Stew­art, may have result­ed in her par­tic­i­pa­tion in a project to irra­di­ate virus­es in hope of devel­op­ing a vac­cine to pre­vent the pro­ject­ed HIV-gen­er­at­ed can­cer epi­dem­ic:

” . . . [Intel­li­gence agent and Gar­ri­son inves­tiga­tive tar­get David] Fer­rie and the angry Cuban exiles may have been will­ing to devel­op a bio­log­i­cal weapon to kill Cas­tro, but I per­son­al­ly had not thought that Dr. Mary Sher­man (or the oth­er doc­tors) would have know­ing­ly been par­ty to the secret devel­op­ment of a bio­log­i­cal weapon. I did, how­ev­er, think that she might have been will­ing to be part of a covert effort to pre­vent an epi­dem­ic of can­cer! Espe­cial­ly, if com­pe­tent can­cer researchers whom she per­son­al­ly knew and trust­ed thought it was pos­si­ble, and if she believed that bureau­crat­ic pol­i­tics or pro­ce­dures were ham­per­ing the process at the nation­al lev­el. They Key Words are ‘knew and trust­ed.’ . . . Mary Sher­man and Sarah Stew­art were friends and class­mates in Chica­go for three years. . . . .”

Ibid.; pp. 218–9.

8. In New Orleans large­ly as a result of her pro­fes­sion­al rela­tion­ship with Dr. Ochsner, Sher­man crossed into the world of covert oper­a­tions because of that same rela­tion­ship. As seen above, Ochsner was very polit­i­cal­ly active and well con­nect­ed with the nation­al secu­ri­ty estab­lish­ment. Part of the anti-Cas­tro covert oper­a­tions milieu in New Orleans, Ochsner appears to have been involved with–among oth­er activities–an attempt at irra­di­at­ing virus­es in order to cre­ate a bio­log­i­cal weapon with which to kill Fidel Cas­tro. This alle­ga­tion comes from yet anoth­er bril­liant female can­cer researcher, Judyth Vary Bak­er. A sci­en­tif­ic prodi­gy, Judyth’s can­cer research drew the atten­tion of top med­ical author­i­ties while she was still in high school. Judyth Vary Bak­er con­tends that she, Dr. Sher­man, Lee Har­vey Oswald, Dr. Alton Oschn­er and David Fer­rie were work­ing on a project to use irra­di­at­ed virus­es to devel­op a bio­log­i­cal war­fare agent to kill Cas­tro. The oper­a­tion was pig­gy­backed on the project to pro­duce the can­cer vac­cine.

” . . . Was Judyth the tech­ni­cian in David Fer­rie’s under­ground med­ical lab­o­ra­to­ry? She admits that she was, despite the obvi­ous legal, eth­i­cal and secu­ri­ty con­se­quences of doing so. Were they irra­di­at­ing can­cer-caus­ing virus­es to devel­op a bio­log­i­cal weapon? Judyth par­tic­i­pat­ed in that oper­a­tion, and has said that their use of radi­a­tion was both delib­er­ate and cen­tral to the design of the project. Was the oper­a­tion in David Fer­rie’s apart­ment con­nect­ed to an oper­a­tion at the U.S. Pub­lic Health Hos­pi­tal? Judyth says it was. . . .”

Ibid.; p. 305.

9. With polit­i­cal extrem­ists of Fer­rie’s ilk in charge of the dead­ly virus­es being made under the aus­pices of the project, the organ­isms may have been used in a geno­ci­dal, eth­nic-cleans­ing appli­ca­tion.

” . . . The Fer­rie-Sher­man under­ground med­ical lab­o­ra­to­ry may have start­ed with the noble and patri­ot­ic mis­sion of pre­vent­ing an epi­dem­ic of can­cer in Amer­i­ca; but once the work start­ed, once the pow­er to move can­cer from ani­mal to ani­mal was estab­lished, once the abil­i­ty to change virus­es genet­i­cal­ly was demon­strat­ed, once the more vir­u­lent viral strains were iso­lat­ed, once the means of trans­mis­sion was estab­lished, once Mary Sher­man died, and once [intel­li­gence agent and anti-Cas­tro oper­a­tive] Guy Ban­is­ter died, then the lab­o­ra­to­ry, the ani­mals and the virus­es were left in the hands of David Fer­rie. He could eas­i­ly have per­vert­ed the lab’s resources into a bio­log­i­cal weapon if he wished to do so, pick­ing the most vir­u­lent strains and deliv­er­ing them to a tar­get. . . Giv­en his his­to­ry of vio­lent polit­i­cal acg­tivigties and his record of men­tal insta­bil­i­ty, the ques­tion is dis­turb­ing: What would David Fer­rie do if he real­ized he held the pow­er to change his­to­ry in his hands? . . .”

Ibid.; pp. 280–81.

10. Through­out the pro­gram, Ed fills in the pic­ture of David Fer­rie, his long­stand­ing work for ele­ments of U.S. intel­li­gence, his work for New Orleans crime boss Car­los Mar­cel­lo, as well as his rela­tion­ship to the milieu of the JFK assas­si­na­tion.

11. Ed the­o­rizes that AIDS may have stemmed from the irra­di­a­tion of virus­es under the janus-faced can­cer research/biological war­fare project:

” . . . SIV is the Simi­an Immun­od­e­fi­cien­cy Virus, one of sev­er­al mon­key Virus­es known to have con­t­a­m­i­nat­ed the polio vac­cine. The more car­cino­genic SV-40 has received most of the press. SIV, a sin­gle-strand RNA retro­virus, is con­sid­er­ably small­er than SV-40 (a dou­ble-strand DNA virus). The tech­nol­o­gy of the 1950’s was not able to fil­ter SIV from the viral extracts. Fur­ther, researchers of the day did not con­sid­er retro­virus­es to be dan­ger­ous, so they basi­cal­ly ignored them. AIDS has taught us how dan­ger­ous retro­virus­es can be. If ‘the project’ in New Orleans was inten­tion­al­ly expos­ing SV-40 to radi­a­tion they have exposed SIV to radi­a­tion at the same time. Sim­ply stat­ed, HIV‑1 is a mutat­ed form of SIV. Did the muta­tion which changed SIV into HIV‑1 occur when SV-40 was exposed to radi­a­tion? Was this the moment of con­cep­tion of AIDS? Could this arti­fi­cial­ly-induced muta­tion explain why HIV‑1 is mutat­ing so rapid­ly? Why it is behav­ing so ‘unnat­u­ral­ly’? . . . .”

Ibid.; p. 305.

12. Using the Nation­al Can­cer Insti­tute’s own sta­tis­tics for the inci­dence of can­cer from 1973 to 1988, Ed came to some very dis­turb­ing con­clu­sions:

” . . . Was [Dr. Ber­nice] Eddy’s pre­dic­tion of a can­cer epi­dem­ic accu­rate? Did the epi­dem­ic ever hap­pen? If it did, would­n’t it show up in the can­cer sta­tis­tics? . . . A real epi­dem­ic should be easy to spot due to its size. So I dug out the can­cer sta­tis­tics pub­lished by the Nation­al Can­cer Insti­tute in 1989 and start­ed relat­ed lit­er­a­ture. Two things became clear: 1. We were los­ing the War on Can­cer, and 2. We were in the midst of an ongo­ing can­cer epi­dem­ic. . .”

Ibid.; pp. 210–211.

13. One of the most intrigu­ing aspects of the book is Ed’s search for the lin­ear par­ti­cle accel­er­a­tor used to mutate the virus­es. It was locat­ed at the U.S. Pub­lic Health Ser­vice Hos­pi­tal in New Orleans. It was a defect in this par­ti­cle accelerator–deliberate sab­o­tage in Ed’s opinion–that killed Dr. Mary Sher­man. The offi­cial sto­ry of Dr. Sher­man’s mur­der has it that she was mur­dered by a sex­u­al preda­tor and her body set afire. As Ed notes, that could not account for the severe burns on the body, that could only have been gen­er­at­ed by tremen­dous heat. For a more com­plete under­stand­ing of the foren­sic evi­dence in Dr. Sher­man’s mur­der and the sto­ry of Ed’s hunt for the loca­tion of the lin­ear par­ti­cle accel­er­a­tor, read the book!

” . . . If Mary Sher­man was killed by a lin­ear par­ti­cle accel­er­a­tor, then the cen­tral ques­tion was clear: Where was the lin­ear par­ti­cle accel­er­a­tor locat­ed? and then a series of relat­ed ques­tions: Upon whose prop­er­ty did Mary Sher­man die? Whose rep­u­ta­tion was her mas­quer­ade-mur­der intend­ed to pro­tect? Upon whose author­i­ty was the inves­ti­ga­tion into her mur­der shut down? I thought about these ques­tions each time I looked at the book, and I won­dered if I would ever find the answers. . . .”

Ibid.; p. 245.

14. It appears that some of the virus­es mutat­ed in the project were suc­cess­ful­ly test­ed on a prison inmate “vol­un­teer.” Judyth’s objec­tions to the test led to a break between Ochsner on the one hand and Bak­er and asso­ciate (and lover) Oswald on the oth­er.

” . . . The Sher­man-Fer­rie-Vary exper­i­ments suc­cess­ful­ly cre­at­ed aggres­sive can­cers in mice and (at Judyth’s sug­ges­tion) these new can­cers were test­ed on mon­keys. They worked, killing the mon­keys quick­ly. But there was a miss­ing link–they need­ed to know if their can­cer cock­tail would actu­al­ly kill a human. It was decid­ed to test their con­coc­tion on a pris­on­er from Louisiana’s Ango­la State Pen­i­ten­tiary who had ‘vol­un­teered’ for the exper­i­ment . They brought him to the Jack­son State Men­tal Hos­pi­tal (near Clin­ton, Lou­siana) where he was inject­ed with their new bio-weapon, and died. . . It was a seri­ous tac­ti­cal error on her part, but Judyth has always been very strong-willed and uncom­pro­mis­ing on cer­tain issues. Dr. Ochsner was equal­ly strong-willed and uncom­pro­mis­ing in his response, before slam­ming the tele­phone down: ‘You and Lee are expend­able!’ . . .”

Ibid.; p. 325.

15. Hav­ing orig­i­nal­ly assumed his “pro-Cas­tro/­com­mu­nist” cov­er in order to deliv­er the bio­log­i­cal weapon to Cuba in order to kill Cas­tro [accord­ing to Bak­er], Oswald then attempt­ed to inter­dict an attempt to kill Kennedy in Dal­las. Instead he was killed and framed for the crime. The pro-Cas­tro cov­er, arranged by Ochsner, INCA et al. pro­vid­ed a per­fect ruse for cov­er­ing up the crime by mak­ing it look as though a com­mu­nist had done it.

” . . . Judyth’s phone con­ver­sa­tions with Lee Oswald con­tin­ued until Wednes­day, Nov. 20, 1963. Dur­ing the final emo­tion­al phone call, Lee made it clear to Judyth that there would be a real attempt to kill Pres­i­dent Kennedy on Fri­day at one of three loca­tions in Dal­las. Lee told Judyth that he believed a man named David Atlee Phillips was orga­niz­ing it. He told Judyth to remem­ber the name. How­ev­er he got there, Lee was now inside the assas­si­na­tion plot try­ing to kill Pres­i­dent Kennedy, and con­sid­ered it his duty to stay in posi­tion and under­cov­er until it was over, telling Judyth, ‘If I stay, there will be one less bul­let fired at Kennedy.’ . . .”

Ibid.; p. 327.


2 comments for “FTR #644 Interview with Ed Haslam About “Dr. Mary’s Monkey””

  1. Ed Haslam did a ter­rif­ic job, it is obvi­ous, but there is one thing that does­n’t make sense: why look­ing to cre­ate such an elab­o­rate scheme just to kill a guy? In effect, if the intelligence/military com­mu­ni­ty want­ed to kill Cas­tro, all they had to do would have been to infil­trate his entourage and have one of his men put a bul­let in his head. Peri­od. The direct route, in this case, is the best. I think the doc­tors who made the orig­i­nal research in the labs in the ’50 were not told the REAL long-term rea­son for this bio­log­i­cal weapon: the exter­mi­na­tion or reduc­ing of Blacks and homo­sex­u­als. This DOES make sense because, con­trary to Cas­tro, you can’t polit­i­cal­ly put a bul­let in all these heads and get away with it.

    Keep on the good work!

    Posted by Claude | January 7, 2011, 8:48 am
  2. In response to the sole post in this top­ic, shoot­ing Cas­tro would leave a poten­tial “respon­si­ble par­ty” as was Oswald until elim­i­nat­ed by Ruby. The can­cer virus very well could have had a larg­er unknown role to those work­ing on it. But if I recall, Haslam’s book ALSO claims the work on the virus INCLUDED a poten­tial method of revers­ing the lethal effects of the mon­key kid­ney vac­ci­na­tions giv­en to all those chil­dren. In fact, the work to cre­ate a ‘Super Strain’ was not even the sole goal. The work to cre­ate the dead­liest of can­cers was for the expressed rea­son to reveal a pos­si­ble cure FOR can­cer. A woman such as Sher­man would not be in the lab night and day work­ing on a bioweapon sim­ply as a bioweapon. She and oth­ers, like Ms Vary, were lured into this work because it was pre­sent­ed to them as a method of find­ing a cure — with the killing of Cas­tro mere­ly a con­ve­nient side effect of that work.

    Posted by Brian | April 27, 2012, 10:38 pm

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