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FTR #668 Sedition!

MP3: 30-Minute Seg­ment [1]
REALAUDIO [2] NB: This RealAu­dio stream con­tains FTRs 668 and 669 in sequence. Each is a 30 minute seg­ment.

The pro­gram begins with a state­ment [3] by TV per­son­al­i­ty and mar­tial artist Chuck Nor­ris [4] that comes very close to a call for rebel­lion and/or seces­sion by the state of Texas. Min­neso­ta Con­gress­woman Michelle Bach­man (R‑MN) [5] also has been talk­ing “rev­o­lu­tion” [6] in an inter­view with Sean Han­ni­ty. Her ratio­nale for such action is her con­tention that Oba­ma is tak­ing us down the road to “eco­nom­ic Marx­ism.” And this while Oba­ma is being sav­aged as a “tool of Wall Street” by the left. Bach­mann is also among those spon­sor­ing [7] an amend­ment to block some­thing the Democ­rats haven’t pro­posed-the use of for­eign cur­ren­cy as legal ten­der in the Unit­ed States! Nor­ris and Bach­mann have com­pa­ny.

Texas Gov­er­nor Rick Per­ry has gar­nered atten­tion for his sug­ges­tion [8] that Tex­ans might want to secede from the U.S.

Nor­ris’ mus­ings about seces­sion have been fea­tured on the web­site of the Coun­cil of Con­ser­v­a­tive Cit­i­zens [9], an orga­ni­za­tion [10] that bridges the gap between “accept­able” con­ser­v­a­tives and overt fascist/white suprema­cist types.”

Fur­ther­ing explor­ing the Lone Star State’s “far­ther shores of pol­i­tics,” 9/11 “truth” activist Alex Jones also has fea­tured Nor­ris’ seces­sion chat­ter on his web­site. [11]Jones has also inveighed against a warn­ing [12] by a law-enforce­ment think tank that the cur­rent social con­di­tions are lend­ing impe­tus to dan­ger­ous right-wing para­mil­i­tary ele­ments.

Con­clud­ing with Richard Poplaws­ki (the alleged kill of three Pitts­burgh police offi­cers), the pro­gram notes his affil­i­a­tion with white suprema­cist ele­ments [13] and his belief that Amer­i­ca was con­trolled by “Jews.” He, too, was a devo­tee of Alex Jones.

Pro­gram High­lights Include: The dan­ger of lump­ing all “con­spir­a­cy the­o­ries” together–an ide­o­log­i­cal stance that plays into the hands of fas­cist ele­ments; dis­cus­sion of the Sov­er­eign Cit­i­zens Move­ment, a populist/fascist ide­ol­o­gy that has helped spawn the so-called tax protest milieu and that advo­cates Iden­ti­ty Chris­tian­i­ty.

1. The pro­gram begins with a state­ment by TV per­son­al­i­ty and mar­tial artist Chuck Nor­ris that comes very close to a call for rebel­lion and/or seces­sion by the state of Texas. Note that the Aryan-Nations affil­i­at­ed Alaskan Inde­pen­dence Par­ty holds sim­i­lar views. Alas­ka Gov­er­nor Sarah Palin [14] fronts for this orga­ni­za­tion. Mr. Emory has voiced his fears about the breakup of the Unit­ed States in pre­vi­ous pro­grams cov­er­ing var­i­ous seces­sion­ist move­ments cham­pi­oned by the UNPO. [15]

” . . . Any­one who has been around Texas for any length of time knows exact­ly what we’d do if the going got rough in Amer­i­ca. Let there be no doubt about that. As Sam Hous­ton once said, ‘Texas has yet to learn sub­mis­sion to any oppres­sion, come from what source it may.’

Just last Fri­day, the Alamo cel­e­brat­ed its 173rd com­mem­o­ra­tion [16], when on March 6, 1836, Tex­ans under Col. William B. Travis were over­come by the Mex­i­can army after a two-week siege at the Alamo in San Anto­nio. But they did­n’t go down with­out a hell-of-a-fight, as those rough­ly 145 Tex­ans fought to their dying breaths against more than 2,000 Mex­i­can forces under Gen. San­ta Anna. (Casu­al­ties in the bat­tle were 189 Tex­ans vs. about 1,600 Mex­i­cans.) They lost that bat­tle, but would pro­vide the inspi­ra­tion to win the war. Their fight­ing spir­it ral­lied the new-found repub­lic, and still does to this day. So when you think all is lost in Amer­i­ca, remem­ber the Alamo!

For those los­ing hope, and oth­ers want­i­ng to rekin­dle the patri­ot­ic fires of ear­ly Amer­i­ca, I encour­age you to join Fox News’ Glenn Beck [17], me and mil­lions of peo­ple across the coun­try in the live tele­cast, ‘We Sur­round Them [18],’ on Fri­day after­noon (March 13 at 5 p.m. ET, 4 p.m. CT and 2 p.m. PST). Thou­sands of cell groups will be unit­ed around the coun­try in sol­i­dar­i­ty over the con­cerns for our nation. You can host or attend a view­ing par­ty by going to Glen­n’s web­site. [18] My wife Gena and I will be host­ing [19] one from our Texas ranch, in which we’ve invit­ed many fam­i­ly mem­bers, friends and law enforce­ment to join us. It’s our way of say­ing ‘We’re unit­ed, we’re tired of the cor­rup­tion, and we’re not going to take it any­more!’

Again, Sam Hous­ton put it well when he gave the march­ing orders, ‘We view our­selves on the eve of bat­tle. We are nerved for the con­test, and must con­quer or per­ish. It is vain to look for present aid: None is at hand. We must now act or aban­don all hope! Ral­ly to the stan­dard, and be no longer the scoff of mer­ce­nary tongues! Be men, be free men, that your chil­dren may bless their father’s name.’ ”

“I May Run for Pres­i­dent of Texas” by Chuck Nor­ris; worldnetdaily.com; 3/9/2009. [3]

2. Min­neso­ta Con­gress­woman Michelle Bach­man (R‑MN) also has been talk­ing “rev­o­lu­tion” in an inter­view with Sean Han­ni­ty. Her ratio­nale for such a call is her con­tention that Oba­ma is tak­ing us down the road to “eco­nom­ic Marx­ism.” And this while Oba­ma is being sav­aged as a “tool of Wall Street” by the left.

” Wow. Just plain wow. This past Wednes­day, Rep. Michele Bach­mann (R‑MN) appeared on Sean Han­ni­ty’s radio show, and sharply reit­er­at­ed [20] her calls for rev­o­lu­tion in Amer­i­ca [21], warn­ing against the immi­nent dan­gers of tyran­ny under Barack Oba­ma:

‘We are head­ed down the lane of eco­nom­ic Marx­ism,’ said Bach­mann. ‘More quick­ly, Sean, than any­one could have pos­si­bly imag­ined. It’s dif­fi­cult for us to even keep up with it day to day.’ . . .”

“Bach­mann Blasts Oba­ma’s ‘Eco­nom­ic Marx­ism,’ Calls for ‘Order­ly Rev­o­lu­tion’ to Save Free­dom” by Eric Kleefeld; talkingpointsmemo.com; 3/27/2009. [6]

3. Bach­mann is also among those spon­sor­ing an amend­ment to block some­thing the Democ­rats haven’t proposed–the use of for­eign cur­ren­cy as legal ten­der in the Unit­ed States! (Note that this arti­cle was not in the orig­i­nal pro­gram.)

“Here’s your dai­ly dose of every­one’s favorite Repub­li­can House mem­ber, Michele Bach­mann from Min­neso­ta.

Bach­mann has now picked up some new cospon­sors in her efforts to amend the Con­sti­tu­tion to for­bid the use of a foreign/global mon­ey as the legal ten­der of the Unit­ed States: Trent Franks (R‑AZ), Peter Hoek­stra (R‑MI), and Ken­ny Marchant (R‑TX). She now has a total of 34 cospon­sors, in addi­tion to her­self as the pri­ma­ry spon­sor.

Of course, there is no such threat to replace the dol­lar as Amer­i­ca’s cur­ren­cy. Even if a glob­al cur­ren­cy of some kind were adopt­ed — and even that isn’t in any way a sure thing — it would be for inter­na­tion­al exchanges and reserves, not for domes­tic use.

Check out the full list of cospon­sors, after the jump.

Todd Akin (R‑MO)

Spencer Bachus (R‑AL)

Roscoe Bartlett (R‑MD)

Judy Big­gert (R‑IL)

Mar­sha Black­burn (R‑TN)

Paul Broun (R‑GA)

Hen­ry Brown (R‑SC)

Dan Bur­ton (R‑IN)

Michael Conaway (R‑TX)

John Cul­ber­son (R‑TX)

Mary Fallin (R‑OK)

John Flem­ing (R‑LA)

Vir­ginia Foxx (R‑NC)

Trent Franks (R‑AZ)

Phil Gin­grey (R‑GA)

Louie Gohmert (R‑TX)

Jeb Hen­sar­ling (R‑TX)

Peter Hoek­stra (R‑MI)

Dar­rell Issa (R‑CA)

Wal­ter Jones (R‑NC)

Steve King (R‑IA)

Mark Kirk (R‑IL)

Doug Lam­born (R‑CO)

Ken­ny Marchant (R‑TX)

Tom McClin­tock (R‑CA)

Thad­deus McCot­ter (R‑MI)

Ron Paul (R‑TX)

Joseph Pitts (R‑PA)

Bill Posey (R‑FL)

Tom Price (R‑GA)

David Roe (R‑TN)

John Shadegg (R‑AZ)

Glenn Thomp­son (R‑PA)

Zach Wamp (R‑TN)”

“Bach­mann Amend­ment Against non-Exis­tent Plot to Replace Dol­lar Gain­ing Sup­port” by Eric Kleefeld; talkingpointsmemo.com; 4/3/2009. [7]

4. Anoth­er arti­cle not fea­tured in the orig­i­nal broad­cast high­lights Texas Gov­er­nor Rick Per­ry’s sug­ges­tion that Tex­ans might want to secede from the U.S.

“In a state that once was its own nation, a Repub­li­can gov­er­nor who talked about seces­sion with­out com­plete­ly dis­miss­ing the idea has Demo­c­ra­t­ic law­mak­ers in an uproar.

Gov. Rick Per­ry, in com­ments fol­low­ing an anti-tax ‘tea par­ty’ Wednes­day, nev­er did advo­cate Texas break­ing away from the Unit­ed States but sug­gest­ed that Tex­ans might at some point get so fed up they would want to leave the union. That was enough to feed opin­ions for and against seces­sion on Web sites, cable TV and talk radio across the nation.

At the Texas Capi­tol on Thurs­day, Rep. Jim Dun­nam of Waco, joined by sev­er­al fel­low Texas House Democ­rats, said some peo­ple asso­ciate talk of seces­sion with racial divi­sion and the Civ­il War and that Per­ry should dis­avow any notion of seced­ing.

‘Talk of seces­sion is an attack on our coun­try. It can be noth­ing else. It is the ulti­mate anti-Amer­i­can state­ment,’ Dun­nam said at a news con­fer­ence.

State Sen. Rod­ney Ellis, a Hous­ton Demo­c­rat, said that by not reject­ing the pos­si­bil­i­ty of seces­sion out of hand, Per­ry ‘is tak­ing a step down a very dan­ger­ous and divi­sive path encour­aged by the fringe of Texas pol­i­tics.’

The Democ­rats are propos­ing a House res­o­lu­tion express­ing ‘com­plete and total dis­agree­ment with any fringe ele­ment advo­cat­ing the ‘seces­sion’ of Texas or any oth­er state from our one and indi­vis­i­ble Union.’

Per­ry empha­sized Thurs­day that he is not advo­cat­ing seces­sion but under­stands why Amer­i­cans may have those feel­ings because of frus­tra­tion with Wash­ing­ton, D.C. He said it’s fine to express the thought. He offered no apol­o­gy and did not back away from his ear­li­er com­ments. . . .”

“Democ­rats: Texas Gov­er­nor Should Dis­avow Seces­sion Talk” by Kel­ly Shan­non [AP]; Yahoo News; 4/16/2009. [8]

5. Nor­ris’ mus­ings about seces­sion have been fea­tured on the web­site of the Coun­cil of Con­ser­v­a­tive Cit­i­zens, an orga­ni­za­tion that bridges the gap between “accept­able” con­ser­v­a­tives and overt fascist/white suprema­cist types.

Web­site for the Coun­cil of Con­ser­v­a­tive Cit­i­zens. [9]

6.  Chuck Nor­ris showed up on 9/11 “Truther” Alex Jones’s show to talk about his “I may run for Pres­i­dent of Texas” state­ment.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-alex-jones-show-l-i-v-e-march-13-with-chuck-norris.html [11]

7. On a relat­ed note, the show high­lights anoth­er post of Alex Jones’s PrisonPlanet.com [22].  The res­i­dents of “Jon­estown” are fret­ting about a newslet­ter issued by the “Mis­souri Infor­ma­tion Analy­sis Cen­ter” (MIAC), which appears to be a law enforce­ment affil­i­at­ed think tank. That orga­ni­za­tion issued a recent report on the grow­ing threat of the mili­tia move­ment that high­light­ed some of the move­men­t’s dif­fer­ent strains, includ­ing the “Sov­er­eign Cit­i­zen” move­ment.  The last page fea­tures The Turn­er Diaries , along with two videos that are pop­u­lar in right-wing con­spir­a­cy the­o­ry move­ments.  The two videos are “Amer­i­ca: Free­dom to Facism” and “Zeit­geist: The Movie”.  They’re both pop­u­lar with the Alex Jones fol­low­ers and so-called 9/11 “Truthers.” Both are, in essence, fas­cist. Con­tain­ing ele­ments of truth, they are mixed in with dis­in­for­ma­tion and it all comes back, of course, to the Jews.

http://www.infowars.com/police-trained-nationwide-that-informed-americans-are-domestic-terrorists/ [12]

8. Next, the pro­gram high­lights four mem­bers of the “Sov­er­eign Move­ment” were arrest­ed for mon­ey laun­der­ing and unli­censed machine gun pos­ses­sion in Las Vegas.  The group is charged with laun­der­ing $1.3 mil­lion giv­en to them by under­cov­er FBI agents that they were told came from a bank fraud scheme. The Sov­er­eign Move­ment is one of the anti-tax  groups that claims the fed­er­al gov­ern­ment has no author­i­ty over them and wants to over­throw it.  It’s appar­ent­ly tied to the white suprema­cist Chris­t­ian Iden­ti­ty wing of the mili­tia move­ment.  One of the arti­cles about the arrest list­ed the ages for three of the mem­bers and they weren’t just a bunch of clue­less angry youths (ages 46, 54, and 67).  One of the guys, Shawn Rice, describes him­self as a rab­bi ded­i­cat­ed to anti-gov­ern­ment teach­ings.  Anoth­er one of the mem­bers, Jan Lind­sey, is a retired FBI agent.  Lind­say and anoth­er mem­ber, Harold Call, are both lead­ers of some­thing called the Neva­da Law­men Group for Pub­lic Aware­ness, which is affil­i­at­ed with the Sov­er­eign Move­ment. NOTE: the Sov­er­eign Cit­i­zens Move­ment and oth­er right/populist/fascist groups ulti­mate­ly are work­ing to under­mine the repub­lic itself.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j6WSls445MoD44UASluPAsINLyRAD96OV1PO0 [23]

9. The pro­gram con­cludes with a look at the slay­er of three Pitts­burgh police­men. Richard Poplaws­ki was a devo­tee of populist/fascist con­spir­a­cy the­o­ries and an affil­i­ate of the white suprema­cist Storm­front web­site. In this con­text, it is impor­tant to grasp that, although this type of ide­ol­o­gy can be extreme­ly destruc­tive, the South­ern Pover­ty Law Cen­ter crit­ic who lumped Poplawski’s Naz­i­fied views in with all “con­spir­a­cy the­o­ries” unwit­ting­ly plays into the hands of the fas­cists.

When all “con­spir­a­cy the­o­ries” are lumped togeth­er, it demeans seri­ous research and the fact that Pres­i­dent Kennedy was killed as the result of a high-lev­el con­spir­a­cy is lumped in with “Inter­na­tion­al Jew­ish Banker” con­spir­a­cies. The aver­age cit­i­zen can be left in a rel­a­tivis­tic polit­i­cal uni­verse, say­ing, in effect; “Well, if Lee Har­vey Oswald did­n’t kill Pres­i­dent Kennedy, maybe the Holo­caust did­n’t hap­pen either.” CORRECTION: Mr. Emory iden­ti­fied Storm­front direc­tor Don Black as the inven­tor of the “lead­er­less resis­tance” strat­e­gy. It was actu­al­ly Louis Beam. Both are white suprema­cists and for­mer lieu­tenants of for­mer Klan leader David Duke.

” . . . ‘He was real­ly into pol­i­tics and real­ly into the First and Sec­ond amend­ment. One thing he feared was he feared the gun ban because he thought that was going to take away peo­ples’ right to defend them­selves. He nev­er spoke of going out to mur­der or to kill,’ said Edward Perkovic, who described him­self as Mr. Poplawski’s life­long best friend.

Mr. Poplawski’s view of guns and per­son­al free­dom took a turn toward the fringes of Amer­i­can pol­i­tics. With Mr. Perkovic, he appeared to share a belief that the gov­ern­ment was con­trolled from unseen forces, that troops were being shipped home from the Mideast to police the cit­i­zen­ry here, and that Jews secret­ly ran the coun­try.

‘We recent­ly dis­cov­ered that 30 states had declared sov­er­eign­ty,’ said Mr. Perkovic, who lives in Lawrenceville. ‘One of his con­cerns was why were these major events in Amer­i­ca not being report­ed to the pub­lic.’

Believ­ing most media were cov­er­ing up impor­tant events, Mr. Poplaws­ki turned to a far-right con­spir­a­cy Web site run by Alex Jones, a self-described doc­u­men­tar­i­an with roots going back to the extrem­ist mili­tia move­ment of the ear­ly 1990s.

Around the same time, he joined Flori­da-based Storm­front, which has long been a clear­ing­house Web site for far-right groups. He post­ed pho­tographs of his tat­too, an eagle spread across his chest.

‘I was con­sid­er­ing get­tin’ life runes on the out­side of my calfs,’ he wrote. Life runes are a com­mon sym­bol among white suprema­cists, notably fol­low­ers of The Nation­al Alliance, a neo-Nazi group linked to an array of vio­lent orga­ni­za­tions.

‘For some time now there has been a pret­ty good con­nec­tion between being sucked into this con­spir­a­cy world and prop­a­gat­ing vio­lence,’ said Hei­di Beirich, direc­tor of research at the South­ern Pover­ty Law Cen­ter and an expert on polit­i­cal extrem­ists. She called Mr. Poplawski’s act, ‘a clas­sic exam­ple of what hap­pens when you start buy­ing all this con­spir­a­cy stuff.’ . . .”

“Sus­pect in Offi­cers’ Shoot­ing Was into Con­spir­a­cy The­o­ries” by Den­nis B. Rod­dy; Pitts­burgh Post-Gazette; 4/5/2009. [13]