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This program was recorded in one, 60-minute segment.
Introduction: Most of the program details the assassination of OUN/B leader Stephan Bandera. Blamed on the KGB, the killing was–in all likelihood–performed by BND (German foreign intelligence and the successor to the Reinhard Gehlen “org”) or other Underground Reich-connected elements, possibly elements of CIA.
The broadcast centers on disinformation (disseminated by W.A.C.C.FL.-related elements) pointing to Lee Harvey Oswald as a KGB-trained assassin.
Attempting to pin the assassination on the Soviets and/or Cubans, these elements spurred many liberals to endorse the “Oswald as lone-nut” hypothesis. They were afraid that the assassination could lead to nuclear war, if the perception gained traction that Oswald was a communist. A central element in this disinformation ploy was an attempt to connect the JFK assassination to the death of Stephan Bandera, allegedly performed by an KGB assassin named Bogdan Stashynsky.
Murdered on the same day that Lee Harvey Oswald “defected” to the Soviet Union, Bandera’s killing was linked to Oswald’s alleged killing of JFK by elements associated with the W.A.C.C.F.L. (the World Anti-Communist Congress for Freedom and Liberation–the forerunner of the World Anti-Communist League.)
W.A.C.C.F.L. elements disseminated the lie that Oswald was trained at the same facility as Stashynsky, and that the JFK hit was part of a Soviet program of assassination of Western political leaders. It should be noted that W.A.C.C.F.L.-related elements also figured prominently in the “handling” of Oswald in New Orleans, Dallas and (possibly) the Soviet Union.
Those W.A.C.C.F.L. elements were closely associated with the OUN/B and the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, a consortium of Eastern European fascist groups inextricably linked with the Gehlen organization, the BND, the CIA and the Underground Reich.
The disinformation that Oswald was a KGB assassin was inserted into a Senate Subcommittee report by Sen. Thomas Dodd, with assistance from elements of CIA.
A member of the U.S. prosecutorial staff at Nuremberg., this former FBI agent (Dodd) was close to the American Security Council (ASC), a domestic fascist group. With its roots in the Hitler-Goebbels Anti-Comintern, the American Security Council was a key American link to the former World Anti-Communist League or WACL. Created by former FBI agents disgruntled at the demise of Senator Joseph McCarthy’s “investigations,” the American Security Council coalesced around the files of Harry Jung’s American Vigilance Intelligence Federation. Virulently anti-Semitic, Jung’s organization was part of the Anti-Comintern prior to World War II.
Counting among its ranks some of the most prominent names on the far right, the organization kept track of people it considered “subversive,” sharing political intelligence with prospective employers (particularly defense contractors). The ASC hated Kennedy and it is not, therefore, altogether surprising that Dodd helped to disseminate the disinformation that Lee Harvey Oswald had been trained in assassination by the KGB. With CIA assistance, Dodd inserted this Bandera-linked disinformation into a Senate Subcommittee report. This disinformation, with roots in the same WACL milieu as the ASC, led liberals to cover-up the assassination out of fear that public perception that a communist killed the President would lead to a Third World War.
It is also interesting and very possibly relevant that the disinformation about Oswald/Stashynsky and the KGB was first called to the attention of Julien Sourwine by OUN/B operative Lev Dobriansky, who later served as Reagan’s ambassador to the Bahamas, while his daughter Paula served on Reagan’s National Security Council. Paula Dobriansky later served as an Assistant Secretary of State under George W. Bush and headed the Tibet desk for a time.
Dodd’s role in this affair is all the more interesting when one considers the possibility that Oswald may have ordered his weapons while working for Dodd’s Subcommittee. Investigating the mail-order firearms business, the Dodd committee focused on the two firms from which Oswald allegedly purchased his weapons. Both Seaport Traders and Klein’s sporting goods, from which Oswald allegedly ordered his weapons, were under investigation by the Dodd Subcommittee. Oswald was apparently extraordinarily interested in mail-order guns, a strange way for a prospective assassin to acquire weaponry. In 1963 in Texas, he could have purchased his guns over the counter with no trace of the transaction.
Program Highlights Include:
- Evidence that the Stashynsky cover story was fabricated.
- Review of the Crusade For Freedom–a covert operation that spawned the Nazi wing of the GOP.
- The role of the OUN/B in the CFF and in the Reagan administration.
- The role of key CFF participants in the JFK assassination.
(It is impossible within the scope of this post to cover our voluminous coverage of the Ukraine crisis. Previous programs on the subject are: FTR #‘s 777, 778, 779, 780, 781, 782, 783, 784, 794, 800, 803, 804, 808, 811, 817,
818, 824, 826, 829, 832, 833, 837, 849, 850, 853, 857, 860, 872, 875, 876, 877. Listeners/readers are encouraged to examine these programs and/or their descriptions in detail, in order to flesh out their understanding.)
Much of the broadcast centers on disinformation (disseminated by W.A.C.C.FL.-related elements) pointing to Lee Harvey Oswald as a KGB-trained assassin.
Attempting to pin the assassination on the Soviets and/or Cubans, these elements spurred many liberals to endorse the “Oswald as lone-nut” hypothesis. They were afraid that the assassination could lead to nuclear war, if the perception gained traction that Oswald was a communist. A central element in this disinformation ploy was an attempt to connect the JFK assassination to the death of Stephan Bandera, allegedly performed by an KGB assassin named Bogdan Stashynsky.
Murdered on the same day that Lee Harvey Oswald “defected” to the Soviet Union, Bandera’s killing was linked to Oswald’s alleged killing of JFK by elements associated with the W.A.C.C.F.L. (the World Anti-Communist Congress for Freedom and Liberation–the forerunner of the World Anti-Communist League.)
W.A.C.C.F.L. elements disseminated the lie that Oswald was trained at the same facility as Stashynsky, and that the JFK hit was part of a Soviet program of assassination of Western political leaders. It should be noted that WACL-related elements also figured prominently in the “handling” of Oswald in New Orleans, Dallas and (possibly) the Soviet Union.
Those W.A.C.C.F.L. elements were closely associated with the OUN/B and the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, a consortium of Eastern European fascist groups inextricably linked with the Gehlen organization, the BND, the CIA and the Underground Reich.
The information in this side is from The Dallas Conspiracy, an unpublished manuscript by Peter Dale Scott. The audio is excerpted from AFA #15, recorded in March of 1986.
2. The second audio excerpt is from FTR #158, recorded on 6/6/1999. The documentation is from Deep Politics and the Death of JFK by Peter Dale Scott. The disinformation that Oswald was a KGB assassin was inserted into a Senate Subcommittee report by Sen. Thomas Dodd.
A member of the U.S. prosecutorial staff at Nuremberg., this former FBI agent (Dodd) was close to the American Security Council (ASC), a domestic fascist group. With its roots in the Hitler-Goebbels Anti-Comintern, the American Security Council was a key American link to the former World Anti-Communist League or WACL. Created by former FBI agents disgruntled at the demise of Senator Joseph McCarthy’s “investigations,” the American Security Council coalesced around the files of Harry Jung’s American Vigilance Intelligence Federation. Virulently anti-Semitic, Jung’s organization was part of the Anti-Comintern prior to World War II.
Counting among its ranks some of the most prominent names on the far right, the organization kept track of people it considered “subversive,” sharing political intelligence with prospective employers (particularly defense contractors). The ASC hated Kennedy and it is not, therefore, altogether surprising that Dodd helped to disseminate the disinformation that Lee Harvey Oswald had been trained in assassination by the KGB. With CIA assistance, Dodd inserted this Bandera-linked disinformation into a Senate Subcommittee report. This disinformation, with roots in the same WACL milieu as the ASC, led liberals to cover-up the assassination out of fear that public perception that a communist killed the President would lead to a Third World War.
It is also interesting and very possibly relevant that the disinformation about Oswald/Stashynsky and the KGB was first called to the attention of Julien Sourwine by OUN/B operative Lev Dobriansky, who later served as Reagan’s ambassador to the Bahamas, while his daughter Paula served on Reagan’s National Security Council. Paula Dobriansky later served as an Assistant Secretary of State under George W. Bush and headed the Tibet desk for a time.
. . . . [General Charles] Wiloughby, in particular, was also part of the leading defense-industrial lobby the American Security Council, along with politically active army reserve officers like Lev Dobriansky, who first brought the issue of Bogdan Stashynsky and the alleged murder training school to the attention of Sourwine and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee. . . .
. . . . Senator Dodd was on the ASC payroll when he generated the Senate subcommittee report on Stashynsky’s supposed murder training school. . . .
3a. As indicated above, Dobriansky served as Reagan’s ambassador to the Bahamas, while his daughter Paula served on Reagan’s National Security Council, ultimately becoming an Assistant Secretary of State during the George W. Bush admistrations.
We note, in passing, that the Bahamas were an epicenter of operations for the Bank al-Taqwa, a major vehicle for funding the Afghan mujahadeen and, later, their offshoot Al-Qaeda. (Offshore entities used to fund the Afghan mujahadin and Al-Qaeda were set up by Baudoin Dunand, a friend of, protege of, and attorney for Francois Genoud.)
Paul Dobriansky headed the Tibet desk at the State Department, working with the CIA and SS-connected Dalai Lama. Paula Dobriansky has been very critical of Obama’s policy toward Ukraine.
“Undersecretary for Democracy and Global Affairs”; U.S. Department of State: Archive.
The Office of the Under Secretary for Democracy and Global Affairs, headed by Dr. Paula J. Dobriansky, coordinates U.S. foreign relations on a variety of global issues, including democracy, human rights, and labor; environment, oceans, health and science; population, refugees, and migration; women’s issues; and trafficking in persons and avian and pandemic influenza.
Since her appointment in 2001, Under Secretary Dobriansky has also served concurrently as the Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues. In this capacity, she is the U.S. government’s point person on Tibet policy matters, including: support for dialogue between the Chinese and the Dalai Lama or his representatives; promotion of human rights in Tibet; and efforts to preserve Tibet’s unique cultural, religious and linguistic identity.
. . . . Many surviving OUN‑B members fled to Western Europe and the United States – occasionally with CIA help – where they quietly forged political alliances with right-wing elements. “You have to understand, we are an underground organization. We have spent years quietly penetrating positions of influence,” one member told journalist Russ Bellant, who documented the group’s resurgence in the United States in his 1988 book, “Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party.” In Washington, the OUN‑B reconstituted under the banner of the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America (UCCA), an umbrella organization comprised of “complete OUN‑B fronts,” according to Bellant. By the mid-1980’s, the Reagan administration was honeycombed with UCCA members, with the group’s chairman Lev Dobriansky, serving as ambassador to the Bahamas, and his daughter, Paula, sitting on the National Security Council. Reagan personally welcomed Stetsko, the Banderist leader who oversaw the massacre of 7000 Jews in Lviv, into the White House in 1983.
“Your struggle is our struggle,” Reagan told the former Nazi collaborator. “Your dream is our dream.” . . . .
4a. We review analysis of the Crusade For Freedom–the covert operation that brought the OUN/B operatives into the country and also supported their guerilla warfare in Ukraine, conducted up until the early 1950’s. (We covered this in AFA #1 and FTR #777, as well as FTR #875.) Conceived by Allen Dulles, overseen by Richard Nixon, publicly represented by Ronald Reagan and realized in considerable measure by William Casey, the CFF ultimately evolved into a Nazi wing of the GOP.
. . . . Frustration over Truman’s 1948 election victory over Dewey (which they blamed on the “Jewish vote”) impelled Dulles and his protégé Richard Nixon to work toward the realization of the fascist freedom fighter presence in the Republican Party’s ethnic outreach organization. As a young congressman, Nixon had been Allen Dulles’s confidant. They both blamed Governor Dewey’s razor-thin loss to Truman in the 1948 presidential election on the Jewish vote. When he became Eisenhower’s vice president in 1952, Nixon was determined to build his own ethnic base. . . .
. . . . Vice President Nixon’s secret political war of Nazis against Jews in American politics was never investigated at the time. The foreign language-speaking Croatians and other Fascist émigré groups had a ready-made network for contacting and mobilizing the Eastern European ethnic bloc. There is a very high correlation between CIA domestic subsidies to Fascist ‘freedom fighters’ during the 1950’s and the leadership of the Republican Party’s ethnic campaign groups. The motive for the under-the-table financing was clear: Nixon used Nazis to offset the Jewish vote for the Democrats. . . .
. . . . In 1952, Nixon had formed an Ethnic Division within the Republican National Committee. Displaced fascists, hoping to be returned to power by an Eisenhower-Nixon ‘liberation’ policy signed on with the committee. In 1953, when Republicans were in office, the immigration laws were changed to admit Nazis, even members of the SS. They flooded into the country. Nixon himself oversaw the new immigration program. As Vice President, he even received Eastern European Fascists in the White House. . .
4b. More about the composition of the cast of the CFF:
. . . . As a young movie actor in the early 1950s, Reagan was employed as the public spokesperson for an OPC front named the ‘Crusade for Freedom.’ Reagan may not have known it, but 99 percent for the Crusade’s funds came from clandestine accounts, which were then laundered through the Crusade to various organizations such as Radio Liberty, which employed Dulles’s Fascists. Bill Casey, who later became CIA director under Ronald Reagan, also worked in Germany after World War II on Dulles’ Nazi ‘freedom fighters’ program. When he returned to New York, Casey headed up another OPC front, the International Rescue Committee, which sponsored the immigration of these Fascists to the United States. Casey’s committee replaced the International Red Cross as the sponsor for Dulles’s recruits. Confidential interviews, former members, OPC; former members, British foreign and Commonwealth Office. . . .
5. The broadcast concludes with analysis of the profound overlap of the key figures in the Crusade for Freedom and the assassination of President Kennedy. Allen Dulles was a key Warren Commission member, widely viewed as a key orchestrator of the cover-up. Richard Nixon was in Dallas Texas on 11/22/1963 and lied about it to two FBI agents in February of 1964. (The profound links between the Kennedy assassination and Watergate is discussed in, among other programs, The Guns of November, Part 3, FTR #253 and Miscelaneous Archive Show M59.)
Ronald Reagan helped frustrate Jim Garrison’s investigation by refusing to extradite Edgar Eugene Bradley to New Orleans as requested and subsequently served on the Rockefeller Commission investigating possible CIA participation in the assassination of JFK. (Predictably, the Rockefeller Commission found none, which is not credible.)
6. George H.W. Bush was circulating between Dallas and Houston, claiming that he can’t remember where he was and what he was doing on the day of the President’s assassination. (Discussion of Bush and the JFK assassination is detailed in FTR #712.)
While serving as chairman of the Republican National Committee, the elder George Bush shepherded the Nazi émigré community into position as a permanent branch of the Republican Party.
. . . . It was Bush who fulfilled Nixon’s promise to make the ‘ethnic emigres’ a permanent part of Republican politics. In 1972, Nixon’s State Department spokesman confirmed to his Australian counterpart that the ethnic groups were very useful to get out the vote in several key states. Bush’s tenure as head of the Republican National Committee exactly coincided with Laszlo Pasztor’s 1972 drive to transform the Heritage Groups Council into the party’s official ethnic arm. The groups Pasztor chose as Bush’s campaign allies were the émigré Fascists whom Dulles had brought to the United States. . . .
I recently finished reading “The Hitler Legacy” and, although I have a few unresolved questions, it was quite good. I just bought “The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government” by David Talbot. I just started reading it — and it’s a page-turner. Dave, or has any other listener read “The Devil’s Chessboard” yet, and what did you think? Thanks!
@Ralph–
This should answer your question:
https://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-894-physicians-heal-thyselves-hypocrisy-and-the-trump-campaign/
Best,
Dave
It’s never too late to learn important history. Well, ok, it’s too late when there’s nothing you can do to stop the consequences from having never learned it in the first place but let’s hope we aren’t there yet. Especially when it comes to the history of the West’s Cold war embrace of fascists in the name of anti-communism. A history that isn’t exactly a secret, but effectively operates as secret history. Well documented history that isn’t really taught in class and hardly anyone seems to know. But we can’t really understand the world heading into 2024 without recognizing this history. A history of largely covert actions spanning decades that profoundly impacted how the latter half of the 20th century and first couple of decades of the 21st century have unfolded. Actionable history that still matters.
And that brings us to the following piece in Jacobin about a facet of that history that’s became a lot more topical in 2023, thanks to the ongoing war in Ukraine in and self-inflicted public relations wound the Canadian parliament created with its standing ovation for Ukrainian Waffen SS member Yaroslav Hunka. That would be the history of the Canadian government’s intentional importation and coddling of Ukrainian war criminals for the purpose of creating a strong nationalist Ukrainian Canadian presence that would be a position to crush the left-wing labor organizing that, at one point, had a strong presence in Ukrainian Canadian communities. Quite literally crushing the Ukrainian Canadian left with violent raids on labor headquarters and even a bombing in 1950, all seemingly condoned by Canadian authorities. And as we’re going to see, it was strategy really was wildly successful. In 1945 the Association of United Ukrainian Canadians (AUUC) added 2,579 new members. That figure dropped to 84 by 1969. By the 1970s, Ukraine nationalist had achieved a kind of cultural dominance over the Ukrainian Canadian diaspora.
Interestingly, official figures show roughly 26,000 Ukrainian displace person had been accepted as of January 1952. Later research suggests that official number was significantly undercounted and closer to 50,000 displace persons were brought into the country by that point, with roughly half originating from Western Ukraine.
So when we find the Canadian parliament scrambling to explain its seemingly bizarre decision to celebrate a Ukrainian Waffen SS member, it’s important to recall that the Canadian state didn’t simply turn a blind eye to the thousands of Waffen SS members let into the country. The state was approvingly watching these Nazi collaborators clash with and eventually crush Canada’s labor movement. That was the plan and the plan worked.
And that was just what happened with Canada. It was obviously a lot worse in US, which took in far more war criminals from across the Eastern bloc. And as we’re going to be reminded of in a March 2014 interview with Russ Bellant, that history includes the US’s elevation of many of the leading figures in these Nazi collaborationist groups like the OUN to leadership positions inside the international community through the West’s official embrace of groups like the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations (ABN), which was led by OUN‑B leader Yaroslav Stetsko until his death in 1986. And then there was the Republican Party’s embrace of these groups through its Ethnic Outreach Committees. An embrace that, as in Canada, was focused on using these same groups to sway the politics of Eastern European Americans and win elections.
And then there’s all of the evidence pointing towards the involvement of these elements in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The point being that we can’t really fully understand the politics of Canada or United States today without a recognition of this history. A history of state backed policy of importing war criminals to defeat labor politics. A history that started before the ‘Red Scare’ of the 1950s and continued long after the fall of Joe McCarthy.
And as Bellant points out in that interview, while much of this history had long been obscured to an extent that it simply wasn’t accessible to average people, that’s no longer the case. These is all old news at this point. We don’t actually have a great excuse not to know this stuff. So with New Year’s resolutions just around the corner, it’s worth keeping in mind that absorbing crucial history we can easily learn but just never got around to learning is one of those resolutions that works for every year:
“However, media coverage has largely failed to engage with the question of why Canada let people like Hunka immigrate, resulting in the current political controversy lacking essential historical context. There have been some exceptions, such as pieces in these pages that have pointed out that there is a troubling history that Canada must reckon with, and correctly suggested that this immigration of war criminals was tied to anti-communism. It is important to delve further into this history, as it reveals a deliberate effort by the Canadian state to dismantle political radicalism and tame labor militancy in the postwar period.”
Ukrainian Nazis weren’t just imported and coddled by the Ukrainian state for the hell of it. They were serving a purpose: undermining and taming the Canadian labor movement. It’s a crucial part of the history behind the honoring of Yaroslav Hunka by the Canadian parliament. Hunka wasn’t mistakenly allowed into Canada despite his record as a Nazi collaborator. He was allowed in because of it, in the hopes that he and others would crush Canadian labor:
Canadian law enforcement even encouraged open violence against Canadian labor organizers in the Ukrainian community. It’s a scene eerily reminiscent to the way Nazi militias like C14 have allowed to openly terrorize Ukraine’s Roma community with the backing of Ukrainian law enforcement. State backed terror in both cases:
And as we can see, this coddling of Ukrainian fascist groups started as early as 1940, with the Ukrainian Canadian Committee/Congress (UCC) forming that year in response to pressures for the Canadian government:
The UCC, in turn, began lobbying the Canadian government to lift the ban on Nazi collaborators, which was indeed lifted in 1950. Interestingly, it appears nearly twice as many Ukrainian refugees were allowed in as the official number, with half originating from Western Ukraine, including up to 2000 members of the 14th Waffen SS Galician division. It’s the kind of bureaucratic ‘oversight’ that would be in keeping with a secret government agenda to import far more of these individuals than Canadian law allowed for, which raises the question as to how many of these uncounted refugees were brought in before the 1950 lifting of ban on Nazi collaborators:
By the 1970s, Canada’s large Ukrainian community was effectively dominated by Ukrainian nationalists. With all of the revisionism that comes with such dominance. State-financed revisionism in many cases:
It’s not hard to see why Canadian officials don’t want to talk about this kind of stuff today. It’s a lot harder to see why the rest of the public has remained so disinterested. And that brings us to the following interview of Russ Bellant from back in March of 2014, published less than a month after the fall of the Yanukovych government. An interview about the US’s own decades of embracing an array of prominent Nazi collaborators right from the outset of the Cold War and the deepening of that embrace, including the Republican Party’s political mainstreaming of these groups through its Ethnic Outreach Committees. And as Bellant points out at the end, not only does the public have a responsibility to understand this kind of important history but it’s not that hard to do so anymore. This stuff was a secret. It’s not still a secret. We’ve known about this for decades. It’s a story about decades of dirty secrets followed by decades of willful blindness:
“If you want an anecdote, I know that 60 Minutes was working on a piece that Bradley’s team was working on. Nancy Reagan herself called the executive producer and said that we would really like it if you wouldn’t do this story, and they killed it. Because, basically, it’s not just about Nazis and the Republican National Committee and the White House. It inevitably raises the question of, who are they, how did they get here, who sponsored them? And it goes back to the intelligence agencies at that point. And some people don’t like treading there; if it’s tied to an intelligence agency, they prefer to just stay away from the subject. So, some people at 60 Minutes were frustrated by it, but that’s what happened. I think that they were able to effectively kill the story when people tried to cover it. They were able to persuade news managers to not delve into it too much.”
Yes, as Russ Bellant describes, America’s dirty little Nazi secret isn’t just a political scandal for the Republican Party, although it is very much that. But it’s much bigger than a political scandal. It’s an intelligence scandal going back to the origins of the Cold War, the modern national security state, and the domestic politics of the Cold War. The Nazi collaborationist WWII entity, the Committee of Subjugated Nations, became the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations in 1946, with OUN-leader Yaroslav Stetsko at its helm until he died in 1986. And nearly the whole time, these same groups were acting as political operatives for the Republican Party. It’s the kind of scandal that A LOT of people would rather we not talk about. A big, messy scandal that went on for decades and with consequences playing out today, especially in war ravaged Ukraine where these same forces have achieved cultural dominance:
And when we hear about George H. W. Bush just sitting there during a 1988 presidential campaign event in Michigan, silently nodding his head while a Ukrainian nationalist leader denounces the OSI, keep in mind it was John Loftus’s work at the OSI that originally uncovered a lot those Nazi war criminals. Loftus’s book about all that was published in 1982. It wasn’t a secret why this Ukrainian nationalist leader had a problem with the OSI. Also keep in mind that it was Bush who signed the order to make these Ethnic Outreach Committees permanent entities, instead of just on presidential election years, when Bush was the head of the Republican National Committee in 1972. George H. W. Bush had a lot of reasons just quietly nod along:
Finally, notes Bellant’s observations about the persistent inability of the American public to learn this history that’s been public knowledge for decades now. Yes, it’s true that average people don’t have the time to personally investigate these topics like Bellant has done. But they don’t have to do all that. They just need to read about all this stuff that’s now old news:
Keep in mind this interview with Bellant was in March 2014, just weeks into the Maidan revolution. All of this old news was incredibly relevant for understanding the situation that was unfolding then because it was the history that informed us about the nature of these newly empowered forces in Ukraine. Almost a decade later, and it’s clear that not only have we not learned this history but there’s been an Orwellian whitewashing of this history, first in Ukraine and, once the war started, spread across the world. Which makes this all the more important history. It’s not hidden history. But it’s effectively lost history. The kind of lost history that could be easily found if we just remembered to look for it. The kind of pathetically lost history we should be resolved to recover because it matters. Better late than never...just hopefully not too late to matter.