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FTR#‘s 1327 & 1328 Conversations with Monte: Conversations #1 and #2

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FTR#1327 This pro­gram was record­ed in one, 60-minute seg­ment.

FTR#1328 This pro­gram was record­ed in one, 60-minute seg­ment. 

Prince Max Egon von Hohen­lo­he
Pho­to Cred­it: Wikipedia

Syn­op­sis of FTR#’s 1327 & 1328: Trea­so­nous meet­ing between Hohen­lo­he and Dulles in ear­ly ’43; Hohen­lo­he rep­re­sent­ing Schel­len­berg (SD, ITT); Hohen­lo­he net­work­ing with Win­field Scott via “pre-CIA” in imme­di­ate WWII peri­od; Ray Roc­ca iden­ti­fies Hohen­lo­he as a key CIA agent in Mex­i­co City, pos­si­bly being focused upon by Gar­ri­son; Win­ston Scott as CIA sta­tion chief in Mex­i­co City is net­work­ing with both Hohen­lo­he and Los Tecos; Los Tecos evolved from Mex­i­can Gold Shirts; Los Tecos deeply-involved with for­ma­tion of Latin Amer­i­can death squads accord­ing to Jack Ander­son; Los Tecos oper­at­ing as key CIA assets in Mex­i­co City; Ann Good­paster help­ing with the fram­ing of Oswald in Mex­i­co City via Bill Simpich; True nature of ZR Rifle as revealed by recent doc­u­ments.

For back­ground on Los Tecos, see AFA#15

Descrip­tion for AFA#15: Con­tin­u­ing the dis­cus­sion from AFA-14, this broad­cast sets forth the oper­a­tions of the Nazi and fas­cist ele­ments described in that pro­gram at greater length. The first part of the pro­gram high­lights the rela­tion­ship between fas­cist ele­ments of U.S. intel­li­gence, the Autonomous Uni­ver­si­ty of Guadala­jara (Mex­i­co), the Latin Amer­i­can Branch of the for­mer World Anti-Com­mu­nist League, and the for­ma­tion and oper­a­tion of Latin Amer­i­can Death Squads.

Oper­at­ing under the ban­ner of the “White Hand,” Latin Amer­i­can Death Squads were coor­di­nat­ed by the CAL (WACL’s Latin Amer­i­can affil­i­ate) and had the Uni­ver­si­ty as its epi­cen­ter. The pro­gram ana­lyzes the gen­e­sis of this rela­tion­ship in Guatemala, aris­ing out of the 1954 CIA-backed coup that over­threw Jacobo Arbenz. Uti­liz­ing CAL, ele­ments of the CIA mid­wived the for­ma­tion of the ter­ror appa­ra­tus that sewed death and destruc­tion in Guatemala and oth­er Latin Amer­i­can coun­tries in suc­ceed­ing decades. (In March of 1999, Pres­i­dent Clin­ton apol­o­gized on behalf of the Unit­ed States for the blood­shed that the Unit­ed States had been respon­si­ble for in Guatemala.)

The pro­gram sets forth the pre-World War II back­ground of “Los Tecos,” the Mex­i­can branch of CAL (based in Guadala­jara.) Allied with Adolf Hitler, tutored by a mem­ber who had stud­ied in Nazi Ger­many and espous­ing an anti-semit­ic and anti-Catholic occultism, Los Tecos dom­i­nate the Autonomous Uni­ver­si­ty. Found­ed, in part, by the U.S. State Depart­ment and Agency for Inter­na­tion­al Devel­op­ment (the lat­ter a fre­quent cov­er for U.S. intel­li­gence oper­a­tions abroad), the Uni­ver­si­ty serves as an ide­o­log­i­cal train­ing ground and oper­a­tional coor­di­nat­ing cen­ter for the ter­ror units of the White Hand. (This infor­ma­tion was sup­plied by a mem­ber of the Hon­duran branch of the death squad appa­ra­tus.)

The broad­cast high­lights the milieu’s oper­a­tions in El Sal­vador and Nicaragua, both oper­a­tions coor­di­nat­ed with Ronald Rea­gan’s CIA and both assist­ed (par­tic­u­lar­ly in the begin­ning) by Argen­tine fas­cists. In addi­tion, the pro­gram delin­eates the on-going rela­tion­ship between the Autonomous Uni­ver­si­ty and thir­teen dif­fer­ent Amer­i­can uni­ver­si­ties. Vis­it­ing Amer­i­can stu­dents are oblig­ed to com­ply with ide­o­log­i­cal train­ing man­dat­ed by Los Tecos.

The sec­ond half of the pro­gram presents infor­ma­tion about the role of WACL ele­ments in the assas­si­na­tion of Pres­i­dent Kennedy. (The broad­cast sets forth the the­sis that the assas­si­na­tion was crit­i­cal to the even­tu­al for­ma­tion of WACL. In 1963, the ele­ments that were to for­mal­ly coa­lesce as WACL were part of the W.A.C.C.F.L. — the World Anti-Com­mu­nist Con­gress for Free­dom and Lib­er­a­tion.) Much of the broad­cast cen­ters on dis­in­for­ma­tion (dis­sem­i­nat­ed by WAC­CFL-relat­ed ele­ments) point­ing to Lee Har­vey Oswald as a KGB-trained assas­sin.

Attempt­ing to pin the assas­si­na­tion on the Sovi­ets and/or Cubans, these ele­ments spurred many lib­er­als to endorse the “Oswald as lone-nut” hypoth­e­sis. They were afraid that the assas­si­na­tion could lead to nuclear war, if the per­cep­tion gained hold that Oswald was a com­mu­nist. A cen­tral ele­ment in this dis­in­for­ma­tion ploy was an attempt to con­nect the JFK assas­si­na­tion to the death of Ukrain­ian fas­cist Stephan Ban­dera. Alleged­ly per­formed by an alleged KGB assas­sin named Bog­dan Stashyn­sky, Ban­der­a’s mur­der took place on the same day that Oswald “defect­ed” to the Sovi­et Union. (As described in AFA-14, Ban­dera and his OUN/B were key ele­ments of the Anti-Bol­she­vik Bloc of Nations.)

WACCFL ele­ments dis­sem­i­nat­ed the lie that Oswald was trained at the same facil­i­ty as Stashyn­sky, and that the JFK hit was part of a Sovi­et pro­gram of assas­si­na­tion of West­ern polit­i­cal lead­ers. It should be not­ed that WACL-relat­ed ele­ments also fig­ured promi­nent­ly in the “han­dling” of Oswald in New Orleans, Dal­las and (pos­si­bly) the Sovi­et Union.

Pro­gram high­lights include: Kennedy’s efforts to improve rela­tions with the Sovi­et Union, includ­ing his June, 1963 speech at Amer­i­can Uni­ver­si­ty that acknowl­edged the Sovi­et Union’s pri­ma­ry role in the defeat of Hitler and which called for a re-exam­i­na­tion Amer­i­ca’s atti­tude toward the Cold War; Spas T. Raik­in’s greet­ing of the alleged trai­tor Oswald upon his return from the Sovi­et Union (Raikin was a for­mer head of the Amer­i­can Friends of the Anti-Bol­she­vik Bloc of Nations); Guy Ban­nis­ter’s detec­tive agency as the head­quar­ters of the Anti-Com­mu­nist League of the Caribbean (lat­er incor­po­rat­ed into WACL); Ban­nis­ter aide Mau­rice Brooks Gatlin’s role in the for­ma­tion of WACL; New Orleans Mafioso Car­los Mar­cel­lo’s asso­ci­a­tion with Anto­nio Val­ladares, his Guatemalan attor­ney and a key fig­ure in the for­ma­tion of CAL (Mar­cel­lo was con­nect­ed to the JFK assas­si­na­tion); the role of WACCFL spokesper­son Sal­vador Diaz Ver­son in dis­sem­i­nat­ing the Oswald/Stashynsky/KGB canard; Ilya Maman­tov and Igor Voshin­in’s han­dling of Mari­na Oswald after the assas­si­na­tion (both men were fas­cists asso­ci­at­ed with the WACCFL milieu); Charles Willough­by’s Inter­na­tion­al Com­mit­tee for the Defense of Chris­t­ian Cul­ture, an inter­na­tion­al fas­cist intel­li­gence net­work unit­ing Third Reich vet­er­ans with mem­bers of Texas’ Hunt fam­i­ly; dis­cus­sion of pos­si­ble WACL con­nec­tions to the assas­si­na­tion of Swedish Prime Min­is­ter Olaf Palme.

1. In FTR #‘s 1058, 1059, 1060, we revis­it­ed the con­cept of “The Chris­t­ian West”: ” . . . . When it became clear that the armies of the Third Reich were going to be defeat­ed, it opened secret nego­ti­a­tions with rep­re­sen­ta­tives from the West­ern Allies. Rep­re­sen­ta­tives on both sides belonged to the transat­lantic finan­cial and indus­tri­al fra­ter­ni­ty that had active­ly sup­port­ed fas­cism. The thrust of these nego­ti­a­tions was the estab­lish­ment of The Chris­t­ian West. Viewed by the Nazis as a vehi­cle for sur­viv­ing mil­i­tary defeat, ‘The Chris­t­ian West’ involved a Hitler-less Reich join­ing with the U.S., Britain, France and oth­er Euro­pean nations in a transat­lantic, pan-Euro­pean anti-Sovi­et alliance. In fact, The Chris­t­ian West became a real­i­ty only after the ces­sa­tion of hos­til­i­ties. The de-Naz­i­fi­ca­tion of Ger­many was abort­ed. Although a few of the more obvi­ous and obnox­ious ele­ments of Nazism were removed, Nazis were returned to pow­er at vir­tu­al­ly every lev­el and in almost every capac­i­ty in the Fed­er­al Repub­lic of Ger­many. . . .”

In FTR #1009, we detailed “Chris­t­ian West” nego­ti­a­tions to have a Hitler-less Third Reich join with the West­ern Allies, under­tak­en by OSS rep­re­sen­ta­tives Allen Dulles and William Dono­van, net­work­ing with Prince Max Egon von Hohen­lo­he, a proxy for SD offi­cer Wal­ter Schel­len­berg.

In in his 1985 vol­ume Amer­i­can Swasti­ka, the late author Charles High­am pro­vides us with insight into the Chris­t­ian West con­cept, reveal­ing the extent to which these SS/OSS nego­ti­a­tions set the tem­plate for the post-World War II world, as well as the degree of res­o­nance that key Amer­i­cans, such as Allen Dulles, had with Nazi ide­ol­o­gy, anti-Semi­tism in par­tic­u­lar.

The post­war polit­i­cal and eco­nom­ic real­i­ties of the Dulles, Hohen­lo­he, Schel­len­berg meet­ings were fur­ther solid­i­fied when William (Wild Bill) Dono­van entered into his “M” Project.

Impor­tant to note in this con­text, is the dom­i­nant role in world affairs played by car­tels, the fun­da­men­tal ele­ment in the indus­tri­al and finan­cial axis that was essen­tial to the cre­ation and per­pet­u­a­tion of fas­cism. Much of the Third Reich’s mil­i­tary indus­tri­al com­plex, the pri­ma­cy of Ger­many in the post­war EU, as well as the cor­re­la­tion between post­war Europe as con­struct­ed in the Chris­t­ian West nego­ti­a­tions and long-stand­ing Ger­man plans for Euro­pean dom­i­na­tion are deriv­a­tive of the pow­er of car­tels.

The Chris­t­ian West and “M” Projects:

Revealed that Allen Dulles’ views res­onat­ed with Third Reich anti-Semi­tism, and that his opin­ions were shared by oth­er, like-mind­ed Amer­i­can pow­er bro­kers: ” . . . . He said that it would be unbear­able for any decent Euro­pean to think that the Jews might return some­day, and that there must be no tol­er­a­tion of a return of the Jew­ish pow­er posi­tions. . . . He made the curi­ous asser­tion that the Amer­i­cans were only con­tin­u­ing the war to get rid of the Jews and that there were peo­ple in Amer­i­ca who were intend­ing to send the Jews to Africa. . . .”

Set the tem­plate for the post­war Fed­er­al Repub­lic of Ger­many and the EU: ” . . . . He [Dulles] reit­er­at­ed his desire for a greater Euro­pean polit­i­cal federation–and fore­saw the fed­er­al Ger­many that in fact took place. . . . Ger­many would be set up as the dom­i­nat­ing force in indus­try and agri­cul­ture in con­ti­nen­tal Europe, at the heart of a con­ti­nen­tal state run by Ger­many, the U.S.A., and Great Britain as a focus of trade. . . .”

Were the vehi­cle for Allen Dulles to betray much of the Allied mil­i­tary plans for South­ern Europe to the Third Reich: “. . . . Dulles now pro­ceed­ed to sup­ply Hohen­lo­he with dol­lops of secret intel­li­gence, announc­ing that the U.S. Army would not land in Spain but, after con­quer­ing Tunisia, would advance from Africa toward the Ploesti oil fields to cut off the Ger­man oil sup­plies. He said it was like­ly the Allies would land in Sici­ly to cut off Rom­mel and con­trol Italy from there, and thus secure the advance in the Balka­ns. Hav­ing giv­en vir­tu­al­ly the entire bat­tle plan for Europe, top secret at the time, to one of Ger­many’s agents, Allen Dulles pro­ceed­ed to the almost unnec­es­sary rid­er that he had very good rela­tions with the Vat­i­can. . . .”

Direct­ly fore­shad­owed the con­fronta­tion between the U.S. and the Sovi­et Union which became the Cold War.  “. . . . In oth­er meet­ings, Dulles . . . . pre­dict­ed that ‘the next world war would be between the U.S.A. and the Sovi­et Union.’ . . . .”

Were the occa­sion for Dulles to laud the “genius” of Nazi pro­pa­gan­da min­is­ter Joseph Goebbels: “He . . . . described a recent speech by Dr. Goebbels as ‘a work of genius; I have rarely read a speech with such ratio­nal plea­sure.’ . . . .”

 Amer­i­can Swasti­ka by Charles High­am; Dou­ble­day & Co. [HC]; Copy­right 1985 by Charles High­am; ISBN 0–385-17874–3; pp. 191–194.

. . . . Dulles pressed ahead. He said that it would be unbear­able for any decent Euro­pean to think that the Jews might return some­day, and that there must be no tol­er­a­tion of a return of the Jew­ish pow­er posi­tions. He reit­er­at­ed his desire for a greater Euro­pean polit­i­cal federation–and fore­saw the fed­er­al Ger­many that in fact took place. . . . He made the curi­ous asser­tion that the Amer­i­cans were only con­tin­u­ing the war to get rid of the Jews and that there were peo­ple in Amer­i­ca who were intend­ing to send the Jews to Africa. This was Hitler’s dream of course: that the Jews would go to Mada­gas­car and stay there. . . .

. . . . Dulles now pro­ceed­ed to sup­ply Hohen­lo­he with dol­lops of secret intel­li­gence, announc­ing that the U.S. Army would not land in Spain but, after con­quer­ing Tunisia, would advance from Africa toward the Ploesti oil fields to cut off the Ger­man oil sup­plies. He said it was like­ly the Allies would land in Sici­ly to cut off Rom­mel and con­trol Italy from there, and thus secure the advance in the Balka­ns.

Hav­ing giv­en vir­tu­al­ly the entire bat­tle plan for Europe, top secret at the time, to one of Ger­many’s agents, Allen Dulles pro­ceed­ed to the almost unnec­es­sary rid­er that he had very good rela­tions with the Vat­i­can. . . .

. . . . In oth­er meet­ings, Dulles . . . . pre­dict­ed that “the next world war would be between the U.S.A. and the Sovi­et Union.” . . . . Dulles obtained a great deal of infor­ma­tion relat­ing to Ger­many and plans for its recon­struc­tion after the war. He . . . . described a recent speech by Dr. Goebbels as “a work of genius; I have rarely read a speech with such ratio­nal plea­sure.” . . . .

. . . . In July, [OSS chief William] Dono­van and the OSS began to take mat­ters into their own hands. No doubt inspired by the invig­o­rat­ing meet­ing in Switzer­land, Dono­van embarked on the so-called “M” project. . . .

. . . . By now, the Ger­man [Franz Von Papen] had read the details of the peace pro­pos­al on micro­film and learned that it was more or less on the same lines as the Dulles pro­pos­als. Ger­many would be set up as the dom­i­nat­ing force in indus­try and agri­cul­ture in con­ti­nen­tal Europe, at the heart of a con­ti­nen­tal state run by Ger­many, the U.S.A., and Great Britain as a focus of trade. . .

2. We present Monte’s devel­op­ment of the decades-long rela­tion­ship between von Hohen­lo­he, U.S. intel­li­gence, Win­ston Scott, Los Tecos, the Mex­i­co City con­cate­na­tions alleged­ly involv­ing “Lee Har­vey Oswald.” For anno­ta­tion for Mon­te’s work, see the com­ment below.

Check the com­ments sec­tion for a more com­plete doc­u­ment­ing of the sources for dis­cus­sion.

Discussion

5 comments for “FTR#‘s 1327 & 1328 Conversations with Monte: Conversations #1 and #2”

  1. Hel­lo, lis­ten­ers, Mön­té here!

    While look­ing at some doc­u­ments (it’s what I do, I’m a doc­u­ments hound), I came across a dis­turb­ing entry at Mary Fer­rell:

    Appar­ent­ly, Dis­trict Attor­ney of Orleans Parish James Carothers “Big Jim” Gar­ri­son was lit­er­al­ly look­ing for Nazi intel­li­gence agents:

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=97720#relPageId=3&search=hohenlohe

    In case you’re won­der­ing, the Nazi that US Army Lt. Col. Ray­mond George Roc­ca, CIA Deputy Chief of Coun­ter­in­tel­li­gence, Research & Analy­sis (DC/CI/RA), com­man­der of the CIA’s “Gar­ri­son Group,” iden­ti­fies in this doc­u­ment, Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he, a Nazi intel­li­gence agent and mem­ber of the Reichssicher­heit­shaup­tamt, was close, per­son­al friends with Allen Welsh Dulles, going all the way back to WWII:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Devil_s_Chessboard/MeE_BgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Hohenlohe

    A few thoughts on why Lt. Col. Ray­mond George Roc­ca, CIA Deputy Chief of Coun­ter­in­tel­li­gence, Research & Analy­sis (DC/CI/RA) felt that this is the man DA Gar­ri­son was look­ing for:

    A fol­low-up doc­u­ment calls Nazi intel­li­gence agent Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he a quote, *”...prin­ci­pal agent...” of the Cen­tral Intel­li­gence Agency:
    *(An intel­li­gence offi­cer may assign one agent to per­form the role of sur­ro­gate han­dler, work­ing direct­ly with oth­er agents and report­ing to the intel­li­gence officer—the sur­ro­gate han­dler is known as a prin­ci­pal agent).

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=101443#relPageId=40&search=hohenlohe

    Could it be that there were, I don’t know, Nazis work­ing for the CIA in Mex­i­co City, involved in mur­der­ing Pres­i­dent Kennedy?

    I would like to note, that since Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he is quote, *”...prin­ci­pal agent...” of the Cen­tral Intel­li­gence Agency in Mex­i­co, I’d like to add that Win­ston Mackin­ley Scott AKA Willard C. Cur­tis, was the Cen­tral Intel­li­gence Agency Mex­i­co City Sta­tion Chief in 1963 (ear­li­er, in 1951, “Win” Scott was CIA Chief of Covert Oper­a­tions, Office of Spe­cial Oper­a­tions, West­ern Europe).
    *(An intel­li­gence offi­cer may assign one agent to per­form the role of sur­ro­gate han­dler, work­ing direct­ly with oth­er agents and report­ing to the intel­li­gence officer—the sur­ro­gate han­dler is known as a prin­ci­pal agent).

    This is dis­turb­ing for two rea­sons:

    1. Win­ston Mackin­ley Scott was the com­man­der of a Mex­i­can fas­cist orga­ni­za­tion called, “Los TECOS” which act­ed as a para­mil­i­tary death-squad for one of Win­ston M. Scot­t’s anti-com­mu­nist pro­pa­gan­da out­lets, “Movimien­to Uni­ver­si­tario de Ren­o­vado­ra Ori­entación” (MURO), which was award­ed the cryptonym “LIEVICT.”
    LIEVIC­T’s pay­mas­ter was Lt. Col. Alphonse Rudolph “Al Pan­cho” Wichtrich, cryptonym “LIHUFF‑1,” for­mer­ly the CIA Chief of Oper­a­tions, Pana­ma, in 1951, and in 1963, was exec­u­tive vice pres­i­dent, Amer­i­can Cham­ber of Com­merce, Mex­i­co City, vice chair­man of DuPont de Nemours, Inc., Mex­i­co City, gen­er­al man­ag­er of Roy­al Crown Cola, Mex­i­co City, and an asset of Chase Man­hat­tan Bank pres­i­dent, David Rock­e­feller’s “ZRAWARD” oper­a­tion in New York.
    Los TECOS act­ed as a front for Nazi intel­li­gence dur­ing WWII, vía the Acción Rev­olu­cionar­ia Mex­i­can­ista, or “Camisas Doradas,” a direct copy of the Nazi Sturmabteilung units.
    LIEVICT was a pro­pa­gan­da arm of Los TECOS.
    And the Prince Hohen­lo­he report is from a man who made the Dal­las pat­sy look like a com­mu­nist in New Orleans, Car­los Jose Bringuier, Direc­to­rio Rev­olu­cionario Estu­dan­til’s Chief of Pub­lic Affairs and Pro­pa­gan­da.
    And the Lt. Col. Ray­mond George Roc­ca, CIA Deputy Chief of Coun­ter­in­tel­li­gence, Research & Analy­sis (DC/CI/RA) doc­u­ment states that Nazi intel­li­gence agent Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he was quote, “...big in pro­pa­gan­da...”

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=101443#relPageId=40&search=hohenlohe

    2. Win­ston “Win” Mackin­ley Scott, has an overt con­nec­tion to Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he, as his name shows up on a doc­u­ment con­cern­ing Prince von Hohen­lo­he, from his days as a US Navy Lt. Cmdr., under the com­mand of the Strate­gic Ser­vices Unit, a pre­cur­sor to CIA prop­er.

    Kin­da makes you won­der if the Chief of Covert Action in West­ern Europe Win­ston Mackin­ley Scott, lat­er CIA Sta­tion Chief in Mex­i­co City, uti­lized herr von Hohen­lo­he for some oth­er pur­pose?

    Like say, the mur­der of Pres­i­dent Kennedy?

    After all, accord­ing to the mind-bend­ing­ly bril­liant work of Bill Simpich, Win­ston Scot­t’s assets are all over the set­ting up of the pat­sy in Dal­las:

    https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Oswald_Legend_10.html

    And who is Win­ston Mackin­ley Scot­t’s “...prin­ci­pal agent...” to the Cen­tral Intel­li­gence Agency in Mex­i­co?

    Why, none oth­er than Reichssicher­heit­shaup­tamt agent Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he!

    As for Reichssicher­heit­shaup­tamt agent Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he, let’s exam­ine the fol­low­ing entry about him, on pages 102 to 104, from a book called, “The Old Boys: The Amer­i­can Elite and the Ori­gins of The CIA” by Bur­ton Hersh:

    QUOTE —

    “...As ear­ly as win­ter of 1942, Schel­len­berg hint­ed to the uneasy Himm­ler that he now intend­ed to launch dis­creet sound­ings. These ranged from Abram Stevens Hewitt in Stock­holm to Theodore Morde, a Reader’s Digest cor­re­spon­dent in Ankara. Inevitably, Schel­len­berg dis­cov­ered a go-between with lines to Allen Dulles, and ear­ly in 1943 a series of dis­cus­sions ensued.
    Thus opened the con­test­ed exchanges between “Mr. Bull” (Dulles) and “Mr. Pauls” (Prince Egon zu Hohen­lo­he-Lan­gen­burg). Max Hohen­lo­he had long been an inter­na­tion­al-set acquain­tance of Dulles, a bustling, pol­ished socialite from the Sude­ten­land whose sta­tus as a minor roy­al drew cus­tomers for muni­tions from the Ško­da Works, a con­ces­sion Schel­len­berg helped him snag. Hohen­lo­he already bestowed over vast land­ed prop­er­ties in Spain after mar­ry­ing into the Haps­burg fam­i­ly; he was cur­rent­ly hedg­ing his polit­i­cal future by trav­el­ing on a Liecht­en­stein pass­port.
    A Canaris famil­iar, Prince Hohen­lo­he caught Schellenberg’s atten­tion ear­ly in 1942 by send­ing the ris­ing SD offi­cial his own jaun­diced appraisal of prospects in Europe. With the all-see­ing SD Com­man­der Rein­hard Hey­drich assas­si­nat­ed at the end of May, pos­si­bil­i­ties had obvi­ous­ly widened for the oppor­tunis­tic Schel­len­berg. Bare­ly thir­ty, scarce­ly beyond his baby fat, the Amt VI chief­tain resem­bled an SS doll decked out in death’s‑head cam­paign hat and tai­lored parade uni­form.
    With Schellenberg’s cau­tious spon­sor­ship, Max Hohen­lo­he trot­ted out a line of pro­vi­sion­al peace pro­pos­als, first with the British Ambas­sador Sir Samuel Hoare—always a soft touch—and the sym­pa­thet­ic Amer­i­can Coun­selor of Embassy William Wal­ton But­ter­worth (an inti­mate of George Kennan’s since Prince­ton), with Vat­i­can sym­pa­thiz­ers, with Fritz Klein, (a friend of both the Dulles broth­ers), and—evidently at the rec­om­men­da­tion of Amer­i­can nego­tia­tors in Lis­bon, where Ken­nan and Colonel Sol­borg were stationed—with Allen Dulles him­self toward the mid­dle of Feb­ru­ary 1943.
    Exact­ly what was agreed upon has become a mat­ter of dis­pute, large­ly because the SS sum­ma­tions of the exchanges appear to have passed through Russ­ian hands on their way to the archives, after which the USSR News Ser­vices wait­ed until 1948 and the upheavals of the Cold War to put them out as dis­patch­es. Nev­er­the­less, much of their thrust is borne out by relat­ed RSHA paper­work, pri­vate jour­nals, and intel­li­gence files from a vari­ety of sources.
    What seemed most scan­dalous at the time was Dulles’ report­ed pique with “out­dat­ed politi­cians, emi­gres, and prej­u­diced Jews.” The hope in Amer­i­ca was that these mal­con­tents could be reset­tled, per­haps in “Africa.” As one in close touch with Vat­i­can cir­cles, Dulles main­tained, he strong­ly urged the “Ger­man bish­ops” to “plead Germany’s cause” in Amer­i­ca, keep­ing in mind that “it had been the Amer­i­can Catholics who forced the Jew­ish-Amer­i­ca papers to stop their bait­ing of Fran­co Spain.”
    This has the look of crumbs spread upon the water. Pro­nounce­ments alter­nat­ed with rich meals in a Liecht­en­stein chateau; Hohen­lo­he bit by bit exposed his qua­si-offi­cial sta­tus as a spokesman for SS ele­ments with­in the Ger­man gov­ern­ment who now looked beyond the “wild men” in con­trol.
    What casts a longer shad­ow is the out­line of Allen’s geopo­lit­i­cal ideas. The peace he has in mind, Dulles indi­cates, must avoid the excess­es of Ver­sailles and per­mit the expand­ed Ger­man poli­ty to sur­vive, Aus­tria includ­ed and pos­si­bly at least a sec­tion of Czecho­slo­va­kia, while exclud­ing all thought of “vic­tors and vanquished...as a fac­tor of order and progress.” With­in this decen­tral­ized nation, the impor­tance of Prus­sia must be reduced, to ward off for the future—Dulles is quot­ed direct­ly here—the “inward­ly unbal­anced, infe­ri­or­i­ty-com­plex-rid­den Pruss­ian mil­i­tarism.”
    The resul­tant “Greater Ger­many” would back­stop the “for­ma­tion of a cor­don san­i­taire against Bol­she­vism and pan-Slav­ism through the east­ward enlarge­ment of Poland and the preser­va­tion of a strong Hun­gary.” This “Fed­er­al Greater Ger­many (sim­i­lar to the Unit­ed States), with an asso­ci­at­ed Danube Con­fed­er­a­tion, would be the best guar­an­tee of order and progress in Cen­tral and East­ern Europe.”
    An Abwehr offi­cer, F. Jus­tus von Einem, lat­er claimed to have sat in on a care­ful­ly pre­pared meet­ing at San­tander in Spain in the sum­mer of 1943 dur­ing which both Men­zies and Dono­van agreed to “Chris­t­ian West­er” terms as reca­pit­u­lat­ed by Canaris per­son­al­ly. If this exchange occurred, Dono­van kept it qui­et.
    Such explorato­ry talks point­ed well beyond the uproar of the moment. “I have known Max Hohen­lo­he since the days of the war,” Dulles assured a lawyer at Sul­li­van and Cromwell in 1965, apro­pos a legal favor request­ed by the aging prince, “when he worked with me on some rather dif­fi­cult and del­i­cate prob­lems.” The exchanges in Liecht­en­stein amount­ed to a recon­noi­ter­ing...”

    — END QUOTE.

    Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he was no “...for­mer Nazi...”
    He was a well-paid, eco­nom­ic fix­er for Ško­da Works, a com­pa­ny that uti­lized slave labor from the Nazi con­cen­tra­tion camps and devel­oped tanks and can­nons that were used by the Nazis to slaugh­ter mil­lions of inno­cent men, women, and chil­dren in Poland, France and the for­mer Sovi­et Union!
    And Prince “Max” von Hohen­lo­he was per­son­al friends with the mass-mur­der­ing func­tionar­ies of the Holo­caust, ADM Wil­helm Franz Canaris, Chief of the Abwehr and SS-Brigade­führer Wal­ter Friedrich Schel­len­berg, com­man­der of all SS-Ein­satz­grup­pen units from 1941 to 1945, and from 1942 to the end of the war, the Chief of Amt VI, Aus­land-SD and the imme­di­ate super­vi­sor of SS-Ober­sturm­ban­n­führer Otto Sko­rzeny!
    Quite the cir­cle of friends, Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he had, ja?
    Plus, Allen Dulles was bro­ker­ing secret deals behind the Allied High Com­mand’s back with Prince “Max” von Hohen­lo­he, to the effect of cre­at­ing a “Chris­t­ian West” alliance with “for­mer” Nazi intel­li­gence, to the effect of start­ing a covert war against the Rus­sians?!

    You know, the COLD WAR!

    This same man, Prince Egon Max­i­m­il­ian von Hohen­lo­he, is iden­ti­fied by Lt. Col. Ray­mond George Roc­ca, CIA Deputy Chief of Coun­ter­in­tel­li­gence, Research & Analy­sis (DC/CI/RA) as “...prin­ci­pal agent...” of the Cen­tral Intel­li­gence Agency in Mex­i­co, in 1963?!

    ‘Til next time, this is Mön­té say­ing, God­speed & hap­py hunt­ing!

    Posted by Mönté | June 11, 2024, 1:07 am
  2. @Monte–

    This comment/update is excel­lent!!

    Dave Emory

    Posted by Dave Emory | June 11, 2024, 4:04 pm
  3. Great episodes. Haven’t got­ten to the next ones yet but just want­ed to con­firm that from the lis­ten­er’s end, there were no audio issues regard­ing vol­ume.

    Posted by Sampson | June 21, 2024, 8:32 am
  4. Feels like a re-birth. “More Dave than Dave is our mot­to.”

    Posted by Magnificat | June 21, 2024, 8:13 pm
  5. @Magnificat–

    The Vasconcellos/Theosophical Soci­ety link depends on the source.

    Not sure it is nec­es­sar­i­ly rel­e­vant.

    Port Chica­go shows are DEFINITELY rel­e­vant.

    Best,

    Dave

    Posted by Dave Emory | June 22, 2024, 2:08 pm

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