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Ron Paul and the Nazis

COMMENT: It is not news that Ron Paul has expressed harsh, big­ot­ed com­ments about gays, African-Amer­i­cans and Jews in his newslet­ter although his sup­port­ers claim it “was not Ron Paul” who actu­al­ly authored the arti­cles.

It is also not news that white suprema­cist and Nazi ele­ments have expressed sup­port for Ron Paul.

Nor is it news that the GOP is in bed with Nazis.

After hack­ing into fas­cist web­sites, the Anony­mous hack­ing group alleges that Paul has engaged the lead­ers of some of these groups in con­fer­ence calls. If true, that con­firms his active sup­port for such ele­ments at the same time that he is pub­licly dis­avow­ing them.

A cou­ple of points in pass­ing: although Paul is clear­ly racist/fascist in his ori­en­ta­tion, his anti-Fed­er­al Reserve stance and oppo­si­tion to for­eign aid to Israel has endeared him to ele­ments of the “Truther” movement–those peo­ple in the 9/11 inves­tiga­tive move­ment who espouse the con­trolled demo­li­tion of the World Trade Center/cruise mis­sile hit the Pen­ta­gon non­sense.

His oppo­si­tion to some of the surveillance/national secu­ri­ty leg­is­la­tion passed in the wake of 9/11 has also endeared him to some of the Amer­i­can Mus­lim com­mu­ni­ty.

Would­n’t be inter­est­ing to get some of the Truthers and Mus­lims togeth­er with the folks from Storm­front and see how they get along?

“Anony­mous Claims Neo-Nazi Links with Ron Paul” by Gian­lu­ca Mez­zofiore; Inter­na­tion­al Busi­ness Times; 1/31/2011.

EXCERPT: . . . Anony­mous also claims that the organ­i­sa­tion has links with Repub­li­can can­di­date Ron Paul. “We found a dis­turbing­ly high num­ber of mem­bers who are also involved in cam­paign­ing for Ron Paul,” the state­ment said, adding that Paul had reg­u­lar­ly met with many par­ty mem­bers and even engaged in con­fer­ence calls with its board of direc­tors. [Ital­ics are mine–D.E.] . . .


17 comments for “Ron Paul and the Nazis”

  1. The tim­ing is per­fect for this. My friends and I are talk­ing about his “case” a lot. I have two arti­cles to sug­gest that sum things up. He real­ly is a fas­cist, there is no debate, not for me any­way:



    Posted by Claude | February 12, 2012, 12:31 am
  2. Dave, where you say “would­n’t it be inter­est­ing to get truthers and extrem­ist Mus­lims togeth­er”;

    Too late. This is what we have been shout­ing about for ages. The ‘truth’ move­ment is essen­tial­ly run by Ger­man intel and neo-nazis. The deep­er you go into the beliefs of truthers, the clos­er you get to the old “Jew­ish con­spir­a­cy”.

    I have been to truth move­ment meet­ings where islam­ic extrem­ists were attend­ing in the past. The truth move­ment is the 5th col­umn of use­ful idiots. It turns peo­ple angry at the finan­cial sit­u­a­tion, into an anti-jew­ish, anti-cap­i­tal­ist, proxy neo-nazi.

    Why? When a west­ern gov­ern­ment falls or is under attack, via a sup­port­ed upris­ing, or even a war, the pro­pa­gan­da chan­nels will ensure these peo­ple are fight­ing for the ene­my. The whole time, they actu­al­ly believe they are fight­ing for our free­dom.



    Posted by G | February 12, 2012, 6:49 am
  3. @G: I’m afraid that is true to a point. Although, TBH, many of the truthers and even some of the spokes­men are indeed decent peo­ple, it is also quite true that we can­not ignore the seri­ous amounts of infil­tra­tion and sub­ver­sion that has occurred over the past decade. Peo­ple like Eric Huf­schmid, Michael ‘Pro­Think’ Delaney, Michael Collins Piper, etc. need to be exposed for the liars and pawns that they tru­ly are.....some have wok­en up, but sad­ly, it may take a long time to make seri­ous head­way, but hope­ful­ly it won’t be too late.....

    Posted by Steven L. | February 12, 2012, 1:51 pm
  4. Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 12, 2012, 6:05 pm
  5. Dave, we need more expo­sure of this. Please come back and do more broad­casts!!

    Posted by mike | February 12, 2012, 6:54 pm
  6. Ron Paul’s many links to the John Birch Soci­ety, his rela­tion­ship to Alex Jones who is close­ly linked to G.Edward Grif­fin[ a JBS offi­cer] and Antho­ny Hilder...linked to the Robert Kennedy assas­i­na­tion.

    Posted by mike | February 12, 2012, 7:04 pm
  7. @Mike–

    I’m still “here.”

    I will pro­duce more pro­grams some months down the line, when the day job per­mits.

    Posted by Dave Emory | February 12, 2012, 7:44 pm
  8. ya Ron Paul sure is a Fas­cist
    we get mail­ing from him from time to time and his son Rand Paul

    the last mail­ing we go was anti-Roe v. Wade

    Well any­ways I have been research­ing the Ron Paul phe­nom­e­na for a bit now
    Paul meet with French ‘The Nation­al Front’ par­ty mem­ber Madame Le Pen

    there cer­tain­ly a John Birch air to him also didn’t Mus­soli­ni put Italy back on the gold stan­dard, i can smell the Koch.
    Lib­er­tar­i­an­ism basic ide­ol­o­gy of lim­it­ed gov­ern­ment is fas­cist ide­al­ism, for in a democ­ra­cy the peo­ple are the gov­ern­ment.
    Are not cor­po­ra­tions ‘peo­ple’ in our cur­rent sys­tem?
    With less gov­ern­ment we are left with Cor­po­ra­tions .
    Besides, Ron Paul loves Ayn Rand and we all know where that goes, cap­i­tal­ist super­men

    moth­er jones is report­ing that the Paul out­fit is doing the duck and cov­er about the news let­ters

    this link is self explana­to­ry with pho­tos

    Posted by leif | February 13, 2012, 7:59 am
  9. Yeah, there have been, with­out doubt, some nasty char­ac­ters in the 911 truth move­ment, and you can see where they’re try­ing to lead peo­ple.
    I per­son­al­ly think the oper­a­tion was very long planned, with a truth move­ment wait­ing off­stage for their cue. It sure­ly has been a huge dis­trac­tion with small results.

    Posted by Dwight | February 13, 2012, 10:55 am
  10. @Pterrafractyl: Why am I not sur­prised? Thanks for the link, very infor­ma­tive. :)

    Posted by Steven L. | February 13, 2012, 4:23 pm
  11. Note, Ron Paul now has an offi­cial Sug­ar-Dad­dy: Peter Thiel wrote Ron a cou­ple of big checks last month.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 20, 2012, 10:55 am
  12. @Pterrafractyl: Just more proof that Thiel is a tool and use­ful idiot of the world crime net­work. What does he think he can gain from an RP pres­i­den­cy?

    Posted by Steven L. | February 20, 2012, 4:06 pm
  13. That last arti­cle, Pter­rafractyl, con­firms Dav­e’s doubts about Peter Thiel, which he expressed in FTR #718 and sub­se­quent. At this point, if Thiel finances Ron Paul, there is no doubt any­more about his polit­i­cal and ide­o­log­i­cal alle­giances.

    Posted by Claude | February 20, 2012, 4:54 pm
  14. @Steven L.: I’m not sure what agen­da Thiel has for the US pol­i­cy besides his gener­ic uber-Lib­er­tar­i­an agen­da (which he would prob­a­bly get with any ran­dom GOP­er in office any­ways). But there’s still the issue of get­ting his Seast­eading ini­tia­tive off the ground and you have to won­der how being a pres­i­den­tial Sug­ar Dad­dy helps with such an endeav­or.

    @Claude: Yeah, I was a lit­tle sur­prised to see Paul get a Sug­ar Dad­dy because he huge small donor base. But accord­ing to this arti­cle, Theil’s $1.7 mil­lion in dona­tions account for 70% of Paul’s dona­tions in Jan­u­ary. It’s a sign of just how whacked out the US elec­tions have become in the post-Cit­i­zen’s Unit­ed ere if even Ron Paul’s for­mi­da­ble grass roots base can’t keep up with mon­ey need­ed to run a mod­ern cam­paign.

    Here’s anoth­er inter­est­ing point regard­ing what Thiel might want in the long run from a Paul pres­i­den­cy (or any pres­i­den­cy): David Brin, the Sci-Fi author, is cur­rent­ly writ­ing a nov­el based on a Seast­eading colony. He did an inter­view last year where he spec­u­lat­ed on Thiel’s real agen­da with the Seast­eading project and his the­o­ry was quite inter­est­ing. He claims that Thiel & Friends want to set up these off­shore colonies pret­ty much so they can obtain insti­tu­tion vot­ing right sta­tus in an expect­ed refor­mu­la­tion of how the globe is gov­erned. The idea is that when this new glob­al gov­ern­ing arrange­ment gets installed (sort of a UN with more teeth I guess), indi­vid­u­als will have no real vot­ing rights, only insti­tu­tions will count at that lev­el. And exist­ing nations will get grand­fa­thered into the new arrange­ment with the pre­cious vot­ing rights, includ­ing micro-island nations and even the Seast­ead colonies. And each one of those votes will be worth so much that set­ting up an entire off­shore mini-nation is worth the price of admis­sion. Who knows how accu­rate Brin’s pre­dic­tions are (he’s friends with Thiel), but the whole inter­view is worth a read.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | February 20, 2012, 8:13 pm
  15. @Pterrafractyl: Inter­est­ing stuff....and a lit­tle eerie at the same time.

    Posted by Steven L. | February 21, 2012, 6:30 pm
  16. Mark Ames lat­est blog­ging, apro­pos. What’s this mys­te­ri­ous alliance with Paul and Rom­ney? Bemus­ing.

    Posted by GrumpusRex | February 29, 2012, 11:17 pm
  17. Here’s a fol­low up arti­cle on the find­ings of Anony­mous hack­ers that dis­cuss­es var­i­ous meet­ings between Ron and Rand and their asso­ciates

    Inter­na­tion­al Busi­ness Times
    Anony­mous Expose Nazi Third Posi­tion ‘Bridg­ing Tac­tic’ with Ron Paul
    By Gian­lu­ca Mez­zofiore : Sub­scribe to Gian­lu­ca’s RSS feed | Feb­ru­ary 02, 2012 1:20 PM GMT

    The nation­al­ist Amer­i­can Third Posi­tion Par­ty (A3P) pur­sued a “bridg­ing tac­tic” with the Ron Paul Rev­o­lu­tion move­ment that sup­port the Repub­li­can can­di­date for the White House, accord­ing to emails hacked by Anony­mous.

    Call­ing for a “White upris­ing”, A3P web­mas­ter Jamie Kel­so, whose email account was hacked by the col­lec­tive, claims that his racist forum White­News­Now is “the only W[hite] N[ationalist] forum work­ing hard to form a bridge with the 100 times larg­er Ron Paul Rev­o­lu­tion”.

    Oth­er excerpts show Kel­so’s efforts in organ­is­ing meet­ings between Ron Paul and oth­er mem­bers of the A3P such as cor­po­rate lawyer William D. John­son, chair­man of the neo-Nazi A3P.

    John­son, who in 1985 pro­posed a con­sti­tu­tion­al amend­ment that would revoke the Amer­i­can cit­i­zen­ship of every non-white US cit­i­zen, found­ed the Amer­i­can Third Posi­tion along with anti-Semi­te Kevin Mac­Don­ald, pro­fes­sor at Cal­i­for­nia State Uni­ver­si­ty, Long Beach.

    “I’m going to go to the Con­ser­v­a­tive Polit­i­cal Action Con­fer­ence (CPAC) with Bill John­son,” reads an email to an A3P mem­ber dat­ed Jan­u­ary 2011. “Bill and I will be meet­ing with Ron and Ran Paul. I have a tele­con­fer­ence call with Bill (and Ron Paul) tonight. Much more lat­er. Things are start­ing to hap­pen (thanks to folks like you).”

    In anoth­er pas­sage, Kel­so, a for­mer Sci­en­tol­o­gist and account own­er of oth­er Ger­man Nazi forums, wrote: “I’ll be at CPAC from Feb. 9 to Feb. 12. I’ll send back reports to you from per­son­al meet­ings with Ron Paul, new­ly-elect­ed Sen­a­tor Rand Paul and many oth­ers. It’ll be here on White­News­Now, a place that is real­ly start­ing to get inter­est­ing because of the pres­ence of folks like you. Birds of a feath­er flock togeth­er, and we are real­ly gath­er­ing some qual­i­ty here.”

    Kel­so’s strat­e­gy appears to be to con­nect with the extrem­ist wings of Ron Paul’s sup­port­ers to lob­by for A3P racist poli­cies. He became an active fan of Paul in 2007. He was report­ed­ly attract­ed to Paul because he believed the Repub­li­can’s fol­low­ers would be recep­tive to his white suprema­cist views. He described Paul as “implic­it­ly white” and start­ed to active­ly organ­ise Paul’s events.

    “The tac­tic is one of aggres­sive­ly ‘bridg­ing ‘between our explic­it WN mem­bers (with our very small num­bers) and our very IMPLICITLY pro-White kins­men in move­ments like Ron Paul Rev­o­lu­tion (with their HUGE) num­bers.”

    Paul’s con­nec­tions with racist sup­port­ers have been high­light­ed by the media in Amer­i­ca. The Wash­ing­ton Post report­ed in Jan­u­ary that Paul has been a busi­ness­man who pur­sued a mar­ket­ing strat­e­gy that includ­ed pub­lish­ing racial­ly charged newslet­ters.


    If you were won­der­ing if Jamie Kel­so actu­al­ly made it to the 2011 CPAC meet­ing...he was there.

    Posted by Pterrafractyl | November 18, 2013, 9:15 am

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