COMMENT: Well, when Mubarak, Ali (Tunisia) were ousted amid emphatic utterances that a New Dawn was breaking in the Middle East and that democracy, enlightenment, etcetera, would be forthcoming like water from a fountain, the view here was that we would see the ascension of the Islamofascist Muslim Brotherhood.
That is evidently turning out to be true with a remarkable wrinkle–as the Obama administration, the State Department and members of Congress cozy up to the Muslim Brotherhood, continuing a relationship begun during the Bush administration, the Brotherhood are cast as “moderates” in contrast with the resurgent Salafist Nour Party.
The “moderation” of the Brotherhood centers on their stated desire to honor the peace treaty with Israel and their commitment to free markets.
A number of thoughts come to mind in this context:
- As seen below, the Brotherhood has already broken its promise not to field a candidate in the presidential election.
- Within the last decade, the Egyptian Brotherhood was agitating against a law banning female genital mutilation–the surgical removal of women’s clitorises in order to keep them from “impure thoughts.” A large percentage of married Egyptian women have been subjected to that procedure.
- Also within the last ten years, the Brotherhood was lobbying to have sanitary napkin dispensers removed from women’s bathrooms in public high schools, thus forcing young women to remain at home when they were menstruating. (In traditional Islam, women are considered unclean when menstruating and men are not supposed to have contact with them.)
- We are to believe that the Brotherhood has undergone a Damascus-road conversion (no pun intended.) In these quarters, skepticism reigns. Rather, the suspicion here is that the Brotherhood is practicing taqqiya–lying to infidels in order to deceive them and gain strategic advantage.
- Within the last ten years, the Brotherhood has been pushing for Egypt to acquire nuclear weapons, in order to counteract Israel’s arsenal. This was in order to place Egypt in a position to reach military parity with Israel. That does not sound like a political stance that bodes well for the future of the peace treaty with Israel.
- The Egyptian Brotherhood has been openly supportive of, and has established liaison with, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch. Hamas’ charter and the salute used by its cadre are adopted from the Third Reich. Hamas has said they will never recognize Israel. The Egyptian Brotherhood’s liaison with Hamas also suggests that their supposed moderation is taqqiya in action.
- On successive days in February of 2011, The New York Times featured columns in which Brotherhood members and advocates openly lied about the organization’s past, deliberately obscuring the group’s military alliance with the Third Reich during World War II. Again, this suggests that the “moderation” we are seeing is taqqiya.
- One fascinating possibility suggests itself. Might those being polled and lending momentum to the Salafist presidential candidate actually be working clandestinely for the Brotherhood, maneuvering to position the Brotherhood as the “moderate” alternative to the Salafists? Some of the secularists who helped craft the Egyptian revolution have openly charged that the Brotherhood and Salafists are collaborating to Islamize Egypt. How many of the Salafists are actually Brotherhood operatives or sympathizers?
- In this regard, we should note that the Salafists have said that the Brotherhood’s presidential candidate assured them that he will see to it that any laws passed by his regime will be in accordance with Sharia. Having broken their promise not to field a presidential candidate, the Brotherhood does indeed appear to be exercising taqqiya. Brotherhood presidential candidate Khairat el-Shater has promised a group of hard-line, reactionary imams that they will be deeply involved in the crafting of Egyptian law. This is almost identical to a highly controversial Muslim Brotherhood proposal put forth in 2007 and withdrawn amidst a storm of controversy.
- With examples of Muslim Brotherhood duplicity with respect to moderation fresh in memory, the possibility that the Egyptian Brotherhood’s “moderate” stance may be just so much dissembling should be carefully considered. Recall that Grover Norquist and Karl Rove positioned Brotherhood operatives from the Nazi-linked al-Taqwa milieu as moderates in the GOP’s Islamic Institute milieu. CAIR–a Muslim Brotherhood front organization with open links to terrorists has emerged in the United States as the “moderate” advocate for the rights of American Muslims.
- It is possible that, faced with an Israel that has nuclear weapons, Brotherhood leaders have adopted an element of moderation derived from staring down the barrel of a “nuclear gun,” but time and the elements will have to bear that out before it will be believed in these quarters.
- When Italian fascists in the Alleanza Nazionale rose to power, they were sanitized by contrasting them with the violent forces grouped around Pino Rauti. Yet Pino Rauti and his cadre were actually part of former P‑2 member Silvio Berlusconi’s coalition. Berlusconi, the Alleanza Nationale and Ordine Nuovo (Rauti’s group) have strong links to the Muslim Brotherhood/Bank al-Taqwa milieu. Are we seeing a similar arrangement with the contrast between the Salafists and the Muslim Brotherhood?
EXCERPT: Hazem Salah Abu Ismail is an old-school Islamist.
He wants to move toward abolishing Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel and cites Iran as a successful model of independence from Washington. He worries about the mixing of the genders in the workplace and women’s work outside the home. And he promises to bring extraordinary prosperity to Egypt, if it turns its back on trade with the West.
He has also surged to become a front-runner in the race to become Egypt’s next president, reconfiguring political battle lines here. His success may help explain why the United States offered signs of tacit approval over the weekend when the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest Islamic group, broke its pledge not to field its own candidate.
With a first round of voting set for late May and a runoff in mid-June, the first presidential race here since the ouster of Hosni Mubarak last year is shaping up as a battle among Islamists.
The Brotherhood, which leads Parliament, had pledged not to seek the presidency for fear of provoking a backlash from the Egyptian military and the West. But Mr. Abu Ismail’s surge raises the prospect that the winner might not be a more secular or liberal figure, but a strident Islamist who opposes the Brotherhood’s pragmatic focus on stable relations with the United States and Israel and free-market economics.
Mr. Abu Ismail poses a subtler threat, too, challenging the Brotherhood’s status as the main voice of Islamist politics in Egypt and threatening to undermine its campaign to set aside Western fears of political Islam. The Brotherhood is taking a considerable risk in running its own candidate against him, since its victory is by no means assured.
And so, in a remarkable inversion, American policy makers who once feared a Brotherhood takeover now appear to see the group as an indispensable ally against Egypt’s ultraconservatives, exemplified by Mr. Abu Ismail. . . .
I have always felt that a big impetus towards US support for what became the “Arab Spring” was Natan Sharansky’s book The Case for Democracy, which came out in 2004. The book naively puts fourth the proposition that regional peace in the Middle East would be advanced by democratic regimes. A nice idea, if only...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_for_Democracy
Bush came out in favor of his ideas. Sharansky was feted at the White House in February 2005.
http://news.bookweb.org/news/natan-sharansky-makes-case-democracy
And awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, by Bush in December 2006.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=44862
Al Ihss in MB Land, pretty punny Dave.
@Vanfield: I have to agree. From what little I know about the man, he seems to have been genuinely interested in promoting actual democracy in the Middle East, though it does seem that Bush took advantage of him; 7 years after that book came out the powers that be hijacked the democratic uprising in Egypt and installed their MB cronies. Unfortunately, it seems, many of the Egyptian people have not yet seen through the so-called ‘moderate’ facade that the Brothers have established.
(Not sure if I got the pun, btw. Could somebody explain it to me? Thanks. =))
@Vanfield and Steven L.:
In the spirit of punning, there’s an awful one lying in wait for you all at the end of this one:
So Reince Priebus, the head of the RNC, dismissed accusations that the GOP is waging a “War on Women” with an interesting analogy:
Two points come to mind with this interesting choice of analogy:
1. Perhaps Mr. Priebus was trying make an honest analogy but he just got a little confused. What he probably meant to say was
There we go, now that analogy doesn’t seem so off!
2. Mr. Priebus was indeed correct that there’s been a war against the Vatican declared, but it wasn’t declared by the Democrats. It was those treacherous non-radically obedient priests.
So, overall, I think I’d grade Mr. Priebus’s analogy attempt at solid “C”.
Nah, that’s too harsh...make that a Bee-minus ;)
(you were warned!)
And in the spirit of adding insult to injury, I just wanted to point out that I found this to be Hill-arious.
I also found this article to hold a bit of hilarity, but mostly because there’s something somewhat comical about the image of Muslim Brotherhood diplomats in DC quoting “Seven Habits of Highly Effective People” in an attempt to convince the audience of their moderate intent. This other article about the signals the MB is sending about its plans is less hilarious and more just depressing:
Show of hands everyone, who is sick of all the soft ball questions that media ask MB representatives?
@Pterrafractyl: LOL, that was a good pun right there. =)
On a more serious note, it looks like the MB’s true colors are already showing to the public.
@Vanfield: Count me in!
@Vanfield: Hands? I have two too few, for four fist to fight fascist thought ought to be my score against media whores. Or, an encore of two might do. So two hands from me and two more for thee and your decree for journalistic integrity!
Sorry everyone, after all the punning I felt a little poetry was needed to cleanse the palette. I hope it won’t happen again although I can’t make any promises. You can never rule out at least one haiku out there in any thread...lurking...waiting...
Word nine in the poem
Is mispelled and should be “fists”
No!!!! You’ve been haikued!
Once again, my apologies...
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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/04/09/Egyptian-candidate-reports-death-threats/UPI-95611333970197/
Egyptian candidate reports ‘death threats’
Published: April 9, 2012 at 7:16 AM
CAIRO, April 9 (UPI) — Gen. Omar Suleiman said he received death threats from the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups after becoming a candidate for president of Egypt.
Suleiman, who was intelligence chief under former President Hosni Mubarak, submitted his candidacy for the presidency Sunday shortly before the filing deadline after collecting 72,000 signatures.
“And indeed as soon as my nomination for the presidency was announced, I received on my personal mobile and through some people close to me death threats and messages saying we will take revenge — from members of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist groups,” Suleiman told the Egyptian daily al-Akhbar Monday.
Suleiman said he decided to submit his presidential candidacy independently. He said the country’s ruling military council was involved in his decision.
“The [ruling] Supreme Council has no relation, neither negatively or positively, with my decision to join the race for the presidency,” he told the newspaper.
The Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth said two other presidential candidates are Amr Moussa. former Arab League secretary-general who served for 10 years as foreign minister under Mubarak, and Khayret al-Shater of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party.
The Egyptian Web site Ahram Online said al-Shater’s candidacy was in doubt because served a jail sentence on charges of terrorism and money laundering. He was released from jail in March of 2011.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/04/09/Egyptian-candidate-reports-death-threats/UPI-95611333970197/#ixzz1rbdAmHCU
While there is no doubt an immense amount of corruption, wasteful goverment spending, and poor management of the Egyptian economy, it seems ill advised to make stimulating businesses and privatizing walfare the cure-alls for Egypt’s woes. On the plus side, I guess we’ll get to see what trickle-down Islamism looks like in the midst of global economic turmoil. And doesn’t el Shater sort sound like a weird MB/Norquist/Romney/Cylon-hybrid candidate? It’s kind of scary...
The agricultural programs that emerge in any upcoming Egyptian administration are going to be important to watch because if they are irrigation-intensive programs there could be some medium-term difficulties:
@Pterrafractyl–
No surprise here. Throughout the Taqqiya Sunrise/Turkish Taffy series, I stressed time and again that the “Muslim Brotherhood Spring” was an op–begun by the Bush/GOP faction of the intelligence community/CIA and continued by the Obama forces.
In that series, I noted time and again that the goal was the establishment/promotion of “corporatism”/free-market economics in the Muslim World.
As Gomer Pyle would have said “Surprise, Surprise.”
Note the next to most recent post, linking Nazi-fellow traveler Ron Paul with Mitt. Watch Americans Elect, which is touting Ron Paul among others.
Peter Ackerman–associate of Junk Bond King Michael Milken, U.S. Institute of Peace/Muslim World Initiative, Koch Brothers Cato Institute–was one of the lynch pins behind Arab Spring.
He’s the founder of Americans Elect and his son Eliot runs it.
Watch Ron Paul as a right-wing Ralph Nader, working to siphon enough votes away from Obama to give Romney the victory.
Best,
Dave
@Dave: With the pace of these MB flip-flops it’s gotten to the point where the name “Khairat ei Shater” ivokes an image in my mind of Lucy van Pelt pulling away the football and then beating a downed-Charlie Brown with an Etch-a-Sketch. You have to wonder just how far the MB is going to push “deficit reduction” and the privatization/elimination of social welfare programs in thier first round of power. Convincing an impoverished public to keep voting against their best interests won’t neccessarily be as easy for the MB as it’s been for the GOP (hopefully). I guess we’ll see!
@Pterrafractyl: I do hold some hope still: there are those in Egypt who have awoken to the fact that the M.B. is actually quite a bit nastier than Mubarak’s regime at ITS worst(At least Egypt had a little freedom then.....now I wonder if the MB’ll piss it all away.),just like those people here in America who learned that the Tea Party was nothing but astroturf and that R.P. is really a snake-oil salesman masquerading as ‘Libertarian’.
There is hope.....though times may be quite rough indeed, and Dave will hopefully be back on his radio show someday soon. =)
Uh oh...I think Egypt just got trolled:
Remember Egypt: don’t feed the trolls.
Pathetic Lunatics #1: Hey, check out our awesome new movie intended to inflame that group of people over there.
Pathetic Lunatics #2: What did they say? I find this very insulting to my group of people. Let’s go murder some tangentially people associated with Lunatics#1. What will show them all that we are very serious and pious people!
Rest of world: *facepalm*
This is why pathetic individuals with severe self-esteem issues and a craving for global attention shouldn’t have access to rocket propelled grenades. And probably video cameras. But definitely rocket propelled grenades.
And on a tangentially related note, this is for everyone thinks Mittens is lying liar.
“I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign...”:
I think way too much emphasis is being put on that crappy Youtube video as provocation for this. This outrage du jour was just the thinnest of excuses.
If this crappy little video provoked such a reaction, why didn’t “Islam: The Untold Story” the documentary of historian Tom Holland’s research which hits at the very core of Islam, about the lack of evidence for the existence of Mohammed, was aired last week on British TV with a tame response? (See http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/uk-islam-tv-documentary-complaints-392018)
THE REAL REASON BEHIND THE ATTACK
From a CNN article...
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-attack-jihadists/index.html
the deadly attack was also linked to a video statement released by al-Zawahiri on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. In the video, al-Zawahiri confirmed the death of al-Libi — a prominent member of the al Qaeda-linked group — adding: “His blood is calling, urging and inciting you to fight and kill the crusaders.”
The video released by the Brigades in June showed nighttime explosions around the consulate, interlaced with footage of Osama bin Laden and al-Zawahiri, along with images from the 9/11 attacks. At the time the Brigades claimed it had launched the attack in response to the first reports of al-Libi’s death in a drone strike in the tribal areas of Pakistan.
WIKILEAKS CONNECTION
From http://articles.cnn.com/2011–08-31/us/wikileaks.sources_1_diplomatic-cables-wikileaks-websites?_s=PM:US
September 12th, 2012
03:32 PM ET
Slain ambassador warned in ’08 about extremists near Benghazi
Before he became U.S. ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens warned in a 2008 diplomatic cable of jihadist sentiment growing not far from Benghazi.
Stevens, who became ambassador to Libya this year, was killed this week in an attack that U.S. sources tell CNN was planned by a pro-al Qaeda group of extremists. While it is not definitively clear whether this group, or what group specifically, is behind the attack, it’s clear that Stevens expressed concern about a radical movement fomenting in the port city of Derna.
The cable was leaked in the trove that WikiLeaks released in 2010 and 2011, and CNN reported on it last year.
In his 2008 missive Stevens, who at the time was U.S. deputy chief of mission in the North African nation, wrote about that “one Libyan interlocutor likened young men in Derna to Bruce Willis’ character in the action picture “Die Hard”, who stubbornly refused to die quietly.”
There is “frustration at the inability of eastern Libyans to effectively challenge” Moammar Gadhafi’s regime, Stevens wrote.
That and “a concerted ideological campaign by returned Libyan fighters from earlier conflicts, have played important roles in Derna’s development as a wellspring of Libyan foreign fighters in Iraq.”
THE BAD GUYS KNEW THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE U.S. SAFE HOUSE AND AMBUSHED IT
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/libya-ambassador-battle-idINL5E8KCMYB20120912
Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:41am IST
Libya rescue squad ran into fierce, accurate ambush
* U.S. rescue mission to Benghazi hit by ‘professional’ ambush
* Two diplomats killed at consulate, two at ‘safe’ house fight
* Rescue raid for diplomats dogged by miscommunication
By Hadeel Al Shalchi
BENGHAZI, Libya, Sept 12 (Reuters) — A squad of U.S. troops despatched by helicopter across the Libyan desert to rescue besieged diplomats from Benghazi on Wednesday ran into a fierce overnight ambush that left a further two Americans dead, Libyan officials told Reuters...
...But two Libyan officials, including the commander of a security force which escorted the U.S. rescuers, said a later assault on a supposedly safe refuge for the diplomats appeared professionally executed...
...Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, whose special operations unit was ordered by Libya’s authorities to meet an eight-man force at Benghazi airport, said that after his men and the U.S. squad had found the American survivors who had evacuated the blazing consulate, the ostensibly secret location in an isolated villa came under an intense and highly accurate mortar barrage.
“I really believe that this attack was planned,” he said, adding to suggestions by other Libyan officials that at least some of the hostility towards the Americans was the work of experienced combatants. “The accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any regular revolutionaries.”...
...“About six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa,” he said. “During this firing, one of the marines whom I had brought with me was wounded and fell to the ground...
LIBYAN & REGIONAL POLITICS — FROM ASIA TIMES ARTICLE:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NI14Ak03.html
...Yet there are other possible domestic Libyan plots that may have contributed to the incident. On Wednesday night, the Libyan national assembly elected Mustafa Abu Shagur, a professor of electrical engineering and a politician with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the first democratically chosen prime minister of Libya. It was a close contest and a dramatic reversal against Mahmoud Jibril, whose centrist coalition had come out first in the parliamentary election in July. Some analysts speculated that the attack may have been intended in part to influence the vote...
SKIPPING DOWN
...Which brings us to a final point: perhaps the single greatest beneficiary of the affair was the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
What better illustration of Assad’s argument that he is fighting “terrorists” than this dramatic reverse in Libya, which many foreigners analysts had seen as a success story to be repeated in his country? While no evidence currently links the Syrian government to either the movie or the embassy attack, the motive is certainly in place. The argument for an international intervention against Assad just suffered a body blow....
FOOD FOR THOUGHT, GROUNDS FOR FURTHER RESEARCH:
Numerous reports put Stevens in the Embassy’s safe room. He leaves as it is being filled with smoke. Stevens is overcome with smoke, he is taken to hospital by Libyans, where he is declared dead. – Presumably the safe room would be deep in the embassy.
How did Libyans find Stevens? Was the embassy completely overrun? Is smoke inhalation really the cause of death?
Who supplied the rockets used in the attack? Were they from NATO or the old regime, or somewhere else?
How did the bad guys know were the safe house was? Someone from inside the Libyan Govt? Inside the embassy?
Sorry but Sam Bacile just sounds too much like imbecile.
@Vanfield–
Sharp eyes and good work! Not sure that Assad could be said to be the main beneficiary, but that is a small point.
The Syrian situation is a political Scylla and Charybdis–an Alawite/Baath fascist on one side and the Muslim Brotherhood Islamofascists on the other. Both murderous.
In my opinion, this is part of the Underground Reich gambit that I detailed in the admittedly long and complicated series on WikiLeaks and the “Muslim Brotherhood Spring,” as I called it.
Recall that Grover Norquist and Karl Rove shepherded the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Taqwa milieu’s profound entree to the GOP. (When WikiLeaks helped this covert operation to begin, Karl Rove had a significant presence in Sweden, as adviser to the Swedish president.)
Norquist has repeatedly said that the GOP intends to make the country ungovernable for a Democrat.
The U.S. absolutely cannot afford another war at this point–not economically, diplomatically or militarily.
A recent article in the New York Times noted that veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are showing premature signs of aging, and we are going to have to care for them for generations.
On the other hand, if war breaks out and Israel gets smoked, which it will if we don’t intervene, that will boost the GOP into the electoral driver’s seat.
The economic fallout will benefit the Underground Reich’s goal of eliminating the U.S.
In my opinion, this is part of the “Muslim Brotherhood Spring” gambit.
Read the description to FTR #‘s 734, 735, 736, 737, as well as 721.
While on the subject, FTR #‘s 732, 745 highlight the fascist/Nazi character of the WikiLeaks milieu–something the Pirate Bay/Pirate Party folks seem to have missed.
This is very complicated, but, at the risk of seeming somewhat conceited, this was brutally, painfully prescient. (During the time I was producing this series, I was going through a huge “life crisis” and suffering in a way that would be unimaginable to the audience.)
Best,
Dave Emory
@Dave Emory
Thank you. I tell anyone who will listen that you are doing very heroic, and important work.
I hope you do new FTR programs, and the first one should be an ‘I Told You So’.
I do think its a stretch to say Assad was the “main beneficiary”, but he comes out ahead, as it is now far less likely that there will be intervention in Syria.