Great com­men­tary. I’ll have to dis­agree on one thing, though: The gov­’t of Chi­na, per­haps as a whole, is def­i­nite­ly, with­out a doubt, allied with the world crime net­work in gen­er­al, if not with the Under­ground Reich.....at least, since the end of the 1970s.
I hon­est­ly would­n’t be sur­prised to see a Turko-Chi­nese alliance some­day if the Islamists do man­age to get into pow­er in Ankara. But then again, giv­en how very strange world pol­i­tics can be these days, maybe not. But giv­en how Sino-Fas­cists, Euro-Fas­cists, and Turko-Fas­cists do seem to think remark­ably alike, well, I guess we’ll have to see.

And then of course, we have our OWN fas­cists to wor­ry about here in the States.

@Steven. Maybe I mis­un­der­stand the impli­ca­tions and insin­u­a­tions of your state­ments. But, I want to point out that the CIA is a cen­ter­piece of the Under­ground Reich. As Jim Gar­ri­son once said, “I’m afraid, based on my own expe­ri­ence, that fas­cism will come to Amer­i­ca in the name of nation­al secu­ri­ty”. That nation­al secu­ri­ty enter­prise is the CIA and its allies. And as for Fas­cism in the US of A, we also need to keep in mind Chris­t­ian Domin­ion­ism, Chris­t­ian Recon­struc­tion­ism, Islam and the influ­ence of oth­er tra­di­tions in push­ing for more author­i­tar­i­an­ism all the time, every day. In gov­ern­ment, pol­i­tics, soci­ety, cul­ture, law, phi­los­o­phy, etc.

@Josh: I do agree with you. The fac­tions which cur­rent­ly dom­i­nates the CIA, it seems, sad­ly isn’t the one look­ing out for our inter­ests, but rather, the Under­ground Reich.
And yes, I see the Recon­struc­tion­ists & Domin­ion­ists as a major part of the prob­lem, too. In fact, here in Texas were I live, I feel they have been a major force in the attempts to fur­ther dumb down our pop­u­la­tion back down to the last cen­tu­ry, when author­i­tar­i­an, Domin­ion­ist, and even eugeni­cist think­ing still dom­i­nat­ed the schools in most places.

Erdogan/MB news

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/14/us-turkey-egypt-idUSTRE78D2TD20110914

It looks like a respect­ed Turk­ish jour­nal­ist that was inves­ti­ga­tion a ter­ror net­work charged with over­throw­ing Erdo­gan’s ‘mod­er­ate’ Islamist gov­ern­ment is now being charged with being part of that very plot as part of Erdo­gan’s grow­ing pat­tern of media intim­i­da­tion and cen­sor­ship. What a sur­prise:

Turkey’s Glow Dims as Press Faces Charges
By DAN BILEFSKY and SEBNEM ARSU
Pub­lished: Jan­u­ary 4, 2012

ISTANBUL — A year ago, the jour­nal­ist Ned­im Sen­er was inves­ti­gat­ing a murky ter­ror­ist net­work that pros­e­cu­tors main­tain was plot­ting to over­throw Turkey’s Mus­lim-inspired gov­ern­ment. Today, Mr. Sen­er stands accused of being part of that plot, jailed in what human rights groups call a polit­i­cal purge of the gov­ern­ing party’s crit­ics.
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The oth­er defen­dants include the edi­tors of a staunch­ly sec­u­lar Web site crit­i­cal of the gov­ern­ment and Ahmet Sik, a jour­nal­ist who has writ­ten that an Islam­ic move­ment asso­ci­at­ed with Fethul­lah Gulen, a reclu­sive cler­ic liv­ing in Penn­syl­va­nia, has infil­trat­ed Turkey’s secu­ri­ty forces.

At a time when Wash­ing­ton and Europe are prais­ing Turkey as the mod­el of Mus­lim democ­ra­cy for the Arab world, Turk­ish human rights advo­cates say the crack­down is part of an omi­nous trend. Most wor­ry­ing, they say, are fresh signs that the gov­ern­ment of Prime Min­is­ter Recep Tayyip Erdo­gan is repress­ing free­dom of the press through a mix­ture of intim­i­da­tion, arrests and finan­cial machi­na­tions, includ­ing the sale in 2008 of a lead­ing news­pa­per and a tele­vi­sion sta­tion to a com­pa­ny linked to the prime minister’s son-in-law.

The arrests threat­en to dark­en the image of Mr. Erdo­gan, who is lion­ized in the Mid­dle East as a pow­er­ful region­al leader who can stand up to Israel and the West. Wide­ly cred­it­ed with tam­ing Turkey’s mil­i­tary and forg­ing a reli­gious­ly con­ser­v­a­tive gov­ern­ment that mar­ries strong eco­nom­ic growth with democ­ra­cy and reli­gious tol­er­ance, he has proved prick­ly and thin-skinned on more than one occa­sion. It is that sen­si­tiv­i­ty bor­der­ing on arro­gance, human rights advo­cates say, that con­tributes to his ani­mus against the news media.

There are now 97 mem­bers of the news media in jail in Turkey, includ­ing jour­nal­ists, pub­lish­ers and dis­trib­u­tors, accord­ing to the Turk­ish Jour­nal­ists’ Union, a fig­ure that rights groups say exceeds the num­ber detained in Chi­na. The gov­ern­ment denies the fig­ure and insists that with the excep­tion of four cas­es, those arrest­ed have all been charged with activ­i­ties oth­er than report­ing.

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In court on Wednes­day, a defi­ant Mr. Sen­er, look­ing gaunt and pale, blamed the police offi­cials he had inves­ti­gat­ed for set­ting him up. “It has been 11 months that I have not been giv­en the chance to utter a sin­gle word to defend myself,” he said, speak­ing to friends dur­ing a brief inter­mis­sion. “I have been a vic­tim in a revenge oper­a­tion — noth­ing else.”

The Euro­pean Human Rights Court received near­ly 9,000 com­plaints against Turkey for breach­es of press free­dom and free­dom of expres­sion in 2011, com­pared with 6,500 in 2009. In March, Orhan Pamuk, a Turk­ish writer and Nobel lau­re­ate, was fined about $3,670 for his state­ment in a Swiss news­pa­per that “we have killed 30,000 Kurds and one mil­lion Arme­ni­ans.”

Human rights advo­cates say they fear that with the Arab Spring lend­ing new region­al influ­ence to Turkey, the Unit­ed States and Europe are turn­ing a blind eye to encroach­ing author­i­tar­i­an­ism there. “Turkey’s democ­ra­cy may be a good bench­mark when com­pared with Egypt, Libya or Syr­ia,” said Hakan Alti­nay, a senior fel­low at the Brook­ings Insti­tu­tion. “But the whole region will suf­fer if Turkey is allowed to dis­re­gard the val­ues of lib­er­al democ­ra­cy.”

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Mr. Sen­er said he believed that he was in jail because he dared to write a book crit­i­ciz­ing the Turk­ish state’s neg­li­gence in fail­ing to pre­vent Mr. Dink’s mur­der. His defense team says the prosecution’s case rests on spu­ri­ous evi­dence, includ­ing a file bear­ing his name that an inde­pen­dent team of com­put­er engi­neers con­clud­ed had been mys­te­ri­ous­ly installed by a virus on a com­put­er belong­ing to OdaTV, an antigov­ern­ment Web site. He was held for sev­en months with­out charges. If con­vict­ed, he faces up to 15 years in jail.

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Now, some jour­nal­ists who work for the Dogan group say there is an unwrit­ten rule not to crit­i­cize the gov­ern­ing par­ty. Mr. Erdo­gan, who has pre­vi­ous­ly called on his sup­port­ers to boy­cott the Dogan group, strong­ly denied any polit­i­cal motives behind the fine.

After Mr. Erdo­gan swept to pow­er in 2002, human rights activists ini­tial­ly laud­ed him for expand­ing free speech. But after an unsuc­cess­ful attempt by the sec­u­lar oppo­si­tion to ban Mr. Erdogan’s par­ty in 2008, crit­ics say, Mr. Erdo­gan embarked on a sys­tem­at­ic cam­paign to silence his oppo­nents.

They say the curbs on press free­dom also reflect the fact that Turkey no longer feels oblig­at­ed to adhere to West­ern norms at a time when it is play­ing the role of region­al leader and its talks on join­ing the Euro­pean Union are in dis­ar­ray.

Mr. Sen­er and Mr. Sik were defi­ant in March as police offi­cers took them into cus­tody at their homes before tele­vi­sion cam­eras. “Who­ev­er touch­es it gets burned!” Mr. Sik shout­ed, refer­ring to the Gulen move­ment, whose mem­bers, ana­lysts say, have infil­trat­ed the high­est lev­els of the country’s police and judi­cia­ry.

In March, the unpub­lished man­u­script of Mr. Sik’s book on the move­ment, “The Army of the Imam,” was con­fis­cat­ed by police offi­cers. But the police were unable to stop its pub­li­ca­tion on the Inter­net, where at least 20,000 users down­loaded it.

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The mon­i­tor­ing agency last sum­mer called on Web sites to ban 138 words, includ­ing “ani­mal,” “erot­ic” and “zoo” in Eng­lish and “fat,” “blonde” and “skirt” in Turk­ish. It is a trib­ute to Turkey’s still vibrant media cul­ture that the pro­hi­bi­tion inspired an online com­pe­ti­tion to cre­ate the best short sto­ry out of the banned words.

We have to track down the win­ning piece of that short sto­ry com­pe­ti­tion, hehe.

Oh my. Erdo­gan just ruf­fled some feath­ers with his lat­est procla­ma­tion about the right to an abor­tion. Not only is he for ban­ning abor­tions but he’s also opposed to ““birth by cae­sar­i­an” . Appar­ent­ly they’re “unnat­ur­al”. WTF!? The “mod­er­ate” Mus­lim Broth­er­hood strikes again:

1 June 2012 Last updat­ed at 12:12 ET

Turkey PM Erdo­gan sparks row over abor­tion
By Arash Ahma­di
BBC Mon­i­tor­ing

Turkey’s Prime Min­is­ter Recep Tayyip Erdo­gan has described abor­tion as tan­ta­mount to “mur­der”, anger­ing wom­en’s rights groups and spark­ing an intense debate in the main­ly Mus­lim nation.

In line with Mr Erdo­gan’s com­ments, Turkey’s health min­is­ter pro­posed a change in the abor­tion law, which rights groups fear could lead to a total ban.

Abor­tions became legal in 1983. Accord­ing to 2008 fig­ures, 10% of preg­nan­cies in Turkey were ter­mi­nat­ed through abor­tion, far low­er than the Euro­pean aver­age rate of 30%.

Speak­ing last week at a con­fer­ence on pop­u­la­tion and devel­op­ment, Mr Erdo­gan said “there is no dif­fer­ence between killing a baby in its moth­er’s stom­ach and killing a baby after birth”.

“I con­sid­er abor­tion to be mur­der. No-one should have the right to allow this to hap­pen.”

Mr Erdo­gan also said he was “a prime min­is­ter that is against birth by cae­sare­an” because “unnec­es­sary” elec­tive cae­sare­ans were “unnat­ur­al”.

Mr Erdo­gan, who is known to advo­cate hav­ing large fam­i­lies, caused yet more anger when he com­pared abor­tion to the aer­i­al bom­bard­ment of civil­ians.

“Every abor­tion is like an Ulud­ere,” he said — a ref­er­ence to an inci­dent last Decem­ber in which 34 civil­ians were killed by the Turk­ish mil­i­tary in an air strike near the Iraqi bor­der.

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All ide­o­log­i­cal con­sid­er­a­tions aside, a new Tur­kic-speak­ing empire is unlike­ly of suc­cess through pure­ly geo­graph­i­cal rea­sons. The swath of for­mer grass­land from Chi­na to Turkey (the ancient Silk Road) which con­tains the major­i­ty of Tur­kic speak­ing peo­ple out­side Turkey prop­er is hemmed in by ethic­i­ties and nation­al­i­ties hos­tile to such a project, even were all to devolve into reac­tionary enclaves. A resur­gent Kur­dish sep­a­ratism is sure­ly to be awak­ened and strength­ened by any reshuf­fling of region­al nation­al bor­ders, as is like­ly if the Syr­i­an con­flict dete­ri­o­rates into Nato-cat­alyzed civ­il war.
This may be one of Nato’s desired endgame sce­nar­ios, as Iran’s Kur­dish north­west seeks union with their coun­ter­parts in oth­er coun­tries. Turkey will be the vic­tim of its own slide into racial and reli­gious fun­da­men­tal­ism and Nazi-inspired agres­sion. Sim­ply put, to destroy Iran as a nation-state Nato will not hes­i­tate to harm its own ally Turkey.