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What’s Up with This? Muslim Men “Firing Hundreds of Shots” and “Chanting” in San Bernardino County! No Arrests Made

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COMMENT: An article that raises questions graced the Los Angeles Times in late March. A group of 17 “Middle Eastern men” fired “hundreds of shots” and were heard “chanting.” No arrests were made.

This in San Bernardino County!

Although one of the rifles lacked serial numbers, having been assembled from spare parts, officialdom has been dismissive, although an FBI investigation apparently continues.

In an atmosphere in which people speaking in Arabic have been removed from commercial airline flights, we have no answers, but lot of questions in this regard:

  •  With the transnational/GOP/Underground Reich faction of U.S. intelligence funding jihadists as proxy warriors and armed heralds of corporatist economics, we wonder if these men might have been trainees, with protection by covert action sponsors?
  • Will a terrorist incident be allowed to take place in order to make Obama look “weak” and “soft on terrorism?”
  • In a variation of the previous point, we wonder about Donald Trump. Scorned by the GOP establishment, he has opined that the U.S. should lessen its NATO commitment and refrain from “nation building.” This cannot sit well with dominant elements of the national security establishment. With the California primary upcoming, we wonder if “Islamic terrorists/ISIS” will be allowed to do to Trump what was done to Robert F. Kennedy in 1968 and George Wallace in 1972? This would make Obama look “weak” and “soft on terrorism,” at the same time as eliminating Trump, enraging his followers and channeling them toward the GOP candidate of choice.

“FBI Investigating Reports of Middle Eastern Men Firing Hundreds of Shots in Apple Valley” by Richard Winston; Los Angeles Times; 3/29/2016.

The FBI on Tuesday was continuing to question people after receiving reports from campers that a group of armed men in a remote part of Apple Valley fired hundreds of shots Sunday morning.

San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent responded to the area known as Deep Creek Hot Springs after reports of gunshots and chanting in the predawn hours, officials said. According to law enforcement sources, 17 men of Middle Eastern descent were detained.

But none were arrested or charged in connection with shooting firearms and they cooperated with deputies, authorities said.

San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said the men were released after authorities found no evidence of a specific crime or outstanding warrants.

“None of the persons interviewed yesterday were identified as terrorists,” she said.

One rifle did not have a serial number because it was bought in parts, Miller said. But it was deemed to be legal in California. She said the FBI may be conducting additional interviews with the men.


FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said agents are working with local authorities to determine if crimes were committed.

A caller to 911 reported hearing more than 100 shots fired and seeing several men wearing turbans in the area of the shooting.

With the assistance of a sheriff’s helicopter, deputies located the men walking away from a creek carrying backpacks and other items.

A search found several handguns, a rifle and a shotgun, according to a sheriff’s statement.

“A records check of the subjects, their weapons, and their vehicles was completed,” the statement said. “The records check revealed none of the subjects had a criminal history or outstanding warrants, the weapons were registered with the Department of Justice except for the rifle, and the vehicles were also registered.”

Sheriff’s investigators contacted several hikers, but none witnessed the guns being fired. “There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained, and they were released,” the department said.

A photograph taken at the scene shows the men handcuffed as several deputies examine their backpacks and equipment.



One comment for “What’s Up with This? Muslim Men “Firing Hundreds of Shots” and “Chanting” in San Bernardino County! No Arrests Made”

  1. This is consistent with a May 3, 2016 interview with Defense Secretary Ash Carter and comments made by DNI James Clapper. Additionally, the A May 4 article in the Dailey Mail stated:

    “America’s fight against the Islamic State terrorist group is far from over, Defense Secretary Ash Carter has warned in a crisis meeting with international military officials in Germany.”

    “His {Ash Carter’s} words on Tuesday came as James Clapper, Obama’s intelligence chief, predicted ISIS could stage a Paris-style attack in the US at any time.”

    “The president has insisted America faces less of a threat than its European allies.” [Ed. Note: this could be quoted out of context if a terrorist strike occurred to make Obama look inept and naive on terrorism, even though there is a very significant threat, it is less than one Europe. Additionally, the President wants to calm fears, not play into them.]

    “The terrorist group has shown their capacity to ‘either infiltrate people or incite people who are already here,’ he said. It means homegrown attacks coordinated between a network of jihadists around the country are a constant concern for US intelligence officials. ‘That’s something we worry about a lot in the United States, that they could conjure up a raid like they did in Paris or Brussels,’ Clapper told CNN.”


    Posted by Anonymous | May 5, 2016, 4:44 pm

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